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[Resident_UA]

If you get the ball first, it's not a foul. Ergo, no penalty. What rules are you going by?

That's not necessarily a rule. If you go for a ball but take out a player that has a chance to score it's a penalty.

You are pretty much inventing a rule.

 

[Willkiller]

What stupid logic are you using? You can hit the ball and still get a penalty in you end up taking out a player that would have chance to score. There's no rule that you guys are inventing

My 'stupid' logic is the fact that it clearly wasn't a cynical foul, he made a clear attempt to get the ball and he did it. He did it extremely late, but he made a play on the ball and just about made it.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

You probably shouldn't post this gif then. I'm Ukrainian. Currently hate Russia

Is ukraine in the world cup ?

 

[Sviatoslav]

You probably shouldn't post this gif then. I'm Ukrainian. Currently hate Russia

Perhaps you can just concentrate on her Odessa cap then.

 

[Syntsui]

This discussion proves that it wasn't a CLEAR penalty. It could go either way, it was not robbed. Time to move on.

 

[WAR recon zero]

If you get the ball first, it's not a foul. (unless it's dangerous or something) Ergo, no penalty. What rules are you going by?

There is no such rule. You can use extreme force and take down the attacker

 

[Resident_UA]

Perhaps you can just concentrate on her Odessa cap then.

I can't. That's just a cover up for a separatist.

 

[Haribi]

This is the hottie of the tournament so far

 

[industrian]

Time to switch to BBC. Expecting 30mins of "bububut england" banter.

I'm listening to Chinese-speaking commentators and pundits that I cannot understand or draw a narrative from.

And it is 9000% better than the BBC or ITV World Cup "experience."

 

[Resident_UA]

Is ukraine in the world cup ?

No. Lost to France in play offs.

Go Algeria, Korea, Belgium!!!

 

[Willkiller]

So many people don't know the rules, if you win the ball but make contact with the opposing player out in the same motion, it's a foul. Even if you take the view of "he won the ball", the next stage of play is the Iranian then goes after the ball, and is then fouled. It might be in the matter of 0.5 seconds, but it's still the way it was.

Foul. Penalty. Gol.

I either totally don't understand what you're saying, or I'm being trolled.

 

[akaoni]

Fabio Cannavaro the former Italian centreback, said he thought it should still be a penalty on ITV even with the contact on the ball. Fabio fucking Cannavaro.

 

[Disagree Guy]

This is the hottie of the tournament so far

That man ain't my type but each to their own taste bud

 

[Broder Salsa]

If you get the ball first, it's not a foul. Ergo, no penalty. What rules are you going by?

This thing called laws of the game, fifa released it, don't know who they are but they seem legit.

www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

A freekick is given for careless, reckless or using excessive force. Which you can easily do despite "getting the ball first". There's some good links about it here and here.

Not that I believe that Iran one is necessarily a penalty, but the "got the ball first" shit got to stop. That is not in the rules.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Россия победит

 

[Santiako]

Messi got elected MotM again, should've been Rojo or Romero tbh.

 

[Archer]

Salty here. Iran deserved better than that.

 

[Courage]

FF, great game. Almost had it.

 

[Cess007]

So many people don't know the rules, if you win the ball but make contact with the opposing player out in the same motion, it's a foul. Even if you take the view of "he won the ball", the next stage of play is the Iranian then goes after the ball, and is then fouled. It might be in the matter of 0.5 seconds, but it's still the way it was.

Foul. Penalty. Gol.

That's not necessarily a rule. If you go for a ball but take out a player that has a chance to score it's a penalty.

You are pretty much inventing a rule.

What you guys are on about??

A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following four offences:

- tackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball
- holds an opponent
- spits at an opponent
- handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

Penalty Kick

A penalty kick is awarded if any of the above ten offences is committed by a player inside his own penalty area, irrespective of the position of the ball, provided it is in play.

http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/soccer101/a/Soccer101_Fouls.htm

If you hit the ball before the player, it's not a foul.

 

[Disagree Guy]

Messi got elected MotM again, should've been Rojo or Romero tbh.

Dejagha all day for me. Beast blood.

 

[Subliminal]

BBC showing ITV how it's done!

 

[Dr.Acula]

I am team motherfucking Russia now.
Odessa for liiiiifee

Odessa is in Ukraine, so you may have to wait a few months.

 

[Haunted]

No Schweini in the starting 11.

 

[Tugatrix]

Россия победит

Dah Dah

 

[gutter_trash]

nah brah, the #1 hottie so far is

 

[Broder Salsa]

If you hit the ball before the player, it's not a foul.

That's not necessarily true at all. If the challenge was careless, reckless, or using excessive force it's a foul.

 

[Raist]

No Schweini in the starting 11.

Ghana has witch doctors in the audience. You're screwed.

 

[kamorra]

What you guys are on about??



If you hit the ball before the player, it's not a foul.

This is not true. Take a look at the link WoodenLung posted.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

Oh shut up joe hart you biscuit.

 

[Xando]

nah brah, the #1 hottie so far is

I aggree also i read that she's half German which makes her 100% hotter.

 

[figadapaura]

That's not necessarily a rule. If you go for a ball but take out a player that has a chance to score it's a penalty.

You are pretty much inventing a rule.

Usually getting the ball is what stops the scoring chance, so no. Unless you think the Iranian player could have gotten on the end of that ball and scored.

There is no such rule. You can use extreme force and take down the attacker

What rule are we talking about now?

This thing called laws of the game, fifa released it, don't know who they are but they seem legit.

www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

A freekick is given for careless, reckless or using excessive force. Which you can easily do despite "getting the ball first". There's some good links about it here and here.

Not that I believe that Iran one is necessarily a penalty, but the "got the ball first" shit got to stop. That is not in the rules.

Sure, I edited my post to say that dangerous play would be a foul. I don't think this penalty shout was dangerous play though, either.

 

[Tekniqs]

Filipino champ.

LOL

 

[Fisticuffs]

Never underestimate the Ghana witch doctors. Poor Jozy

 

[Resident_UA]

What you guys are on about??



If you hit the ball before the player, it's not a foul.

You can make an argument that he touched him before touching the ball again

The point is that he took him out when there was still a chance to score.

EDIT: Also I don't think this is worth arguing much about. Just don't see why you are defending the ref so much. I'm almost positive that it would have been a penalty if the roles were reversed.

 

[Subliminal]

I just feel sorry for the England team now, they tried and that's all they can say.

 

[jayj306]

What you guys are on about??



If you hit the ball before the player, it's not a foul.

That reference to "making contact with the opponent before touching the ball" is removed from the new revision of Laws of The Game, which came into power on 1 June 2014
http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/footballdevelopment/technicalsupport/refereeing/laws-of-the-game/

 

[Hystzen]

footballers can now ruin someone's shins as long hit ball first what being said

Come on guys

 

[Raist]

"As a team we feel we're getting better".

Well that's cute and all Rooney, but according to objective measures of this, you're getting worse.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Odessa is in Ukraine, so you may have to wait a few months.

I call her Odessa.
Моя любовь

 

[Ilpalazzo]

This thing called laws of the game, fifa released it, don't know who they are but they seem legit.

www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

A freekick is given for careless, reckless or using excessive force. Which you can easily do despite "getting the ball first". There's some good links about it here and here.

Not that I believe that Iran one is necessarily a penalty, but the "got the ball first" shit got to stop. That is not in the rules.

Played by the book footbal needs more ref and should be played like basket.
Go tell Fifa about it.

 

[NTIETS13A_Superiority]

This discussion proves that it wasn't a CLEAR penalty. It could go either way, it was not robbed. Time to move on.

Based on other whistled fouls, it should have been. Ref was decent so it does not really matter. Would have been nice if Iran won.

 

[sabertoothzombie]

still no Klose starting

 

[Wazzy]

I just feel sorry for the England team now, they tried and that's all they can say.

They didn't really deserve to move on but I really wanted Italy to win just so I can see what happens.

I've convinced myself Italy played bad just to knock England out.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Guys, Guys , stop the hate

Oh man...

 

[John Dunbar]

still no Klose starting

two things that would ruin this world cup:

1. germany winning
2. klose breaking og ronnie's record

 

[Tekniqs]

that wall art is awesome!

 

[Fisticuffs]

They didn't really deserve to move on but I really wanted Italy to win just so I can see what happens.

I've convinced myself Italy played bad just to knock England out.

Nah, Italy just played against the most dominate team in World Cup History. It's ok. We are all gonna fall to the new champs one way or another.

 

[Cess007]

That's not necessarily true at all. If the challenge was careless, reckless, or using excessive force it's a foul.

This is not true. Take a look at the link WoodenLung posted.

I didn't find that the defender made user of excessive force. Then again, that's a criteria rule, not a written one. The ref needs to decide if he finds that he was using excessive force.

You can make an argument that he touched him before touching the ball again

The point is that he took him out when there was still a chance to score.

Looking at the gif i found the order of things were:

- Striker touches the ball
- Defense (luckily) touches the ball too
- Defense touches the Striker.


Anyway, wherever we get to decide it was a Pen or not; the fact that the referee needs to decide this in a split of second without any replay or other angle, make it hard for me to think as if Iran was robbed. Unlucky? Yes? They deserved more? Fuck yes. Robbed? For me? Nop.

 

[caramac]

 

[figadapaura]

Also I don't think this is worth arguing much about. Just don't see why you are defending the ref so much. I'm almost positive that it would have been a penalty if the roles were reversed.

Well, we'll never know.