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Am I the only one who doesn't care if Lucas gets cut?

I prefer Ness as the actual character but honestly... Lucas played so much better in Brawl than Ness did. If Ness played as well as he did in the N64 version though... I'd totally go with that. He was downright overpowered in the original. Being able to juggle with him was AWESOME.
 
Lucas's abilities will probably be rolled into Ness's through the customizable movesets anyway.
I guess, but everything cool about Lucas was in his A-moves anyway. He was basically just a more stylish and satisfying Ness. If we do lose Lucas I hope Ness inherits some of his attacks for a nice composite moveset with the best of both worlds.
Also yay, first post. Got posting rights too late for E3 but just in time for my birthday. :)
 
I guess, but everything cool about Lucas was in his A-moves anyway. He was basically just a more stylish and satisfying Ness. If we do lose Lucas I hope Ness inherits some of his attacks for a nice composite moveset with the best of both worlds.
Also yay, first post. Got posting rights too late for E3 but just in time for my birthday. :)

Aye. That hitbox for his Up-A. LoL made my friends rage so much ahaha.
 
all this talk about cutting characters is awful here let's just look at this amazing miiverse post

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The only cuts I 100% am ok with and even want are Squirtle and Ivysaur.
The only cuts I would accept if I absolutely had to are Lucas and Wolf.
The only cut I have come to terms with but really really don't want to happen is Snake.
Everything else for me has to be in (Jigglypuff, Ness, R.O.B etc)

At the start I didn't mind Ike and Lucario being replaced by another Fire Emblem and Pokemon character but I'm happy they're in. I hate cuts :(
 
The only cuts I 100% am ok with and even want are Squirtle and Ivysaur.
The only cuts I would accept if I absolutely had to are Lucas and Wolf.
The only cut I have come to terms with but really really don't want to happen is Snake.
Everything else for me has to be in (Jigglypuff, Ness, R.O.B etc)

At the start I didn't mind Ike and Lucario being replaced by another Fire Emblem and Pokemon character but I'm happy they're in. I hate cuts :(
Why would you want two of the most unique characters in brawl to be cut?
 
Why would you want two of the most unique characters in brawl to be cut?

Because in my opinion they have no place individually and only worked well as part of Pokemon Trainer. Especially Ivysaur. They may have earned a place now because of Brawl, but there was never a chance that Ivysaur would be a playable character on his own.
 
The only cuts I 100% am ok with and even want are Squirtle and Ivysaur.
The only cuts I would accept if I absolutely had to are Lucas and Wolf.
The only cut I have come to terms with but really really don't want to happen is Snake.
Everything else for me has to be in (Jigglypuff, Ness, R.O.B etc)

At the start I didn't mind Ike and Lucario being replaced by another Fire Emblem and Pokemon character but I'm happy they're in. I hate cuts :(

Agree with this
 
Because in my opinion they have no place individually and only worked well as part of Pokemon Trainer. Especially Ivysaur. They may have earned a place now because of Brawl, but there was never a chance that Ivysaur would be a playable character on his own.
But they earned their place because of Brawl. You could just as easily something like Jigglypuff should be gone because it wouldn't ever get in if it hadn't been sort of popular when Smash 64 first came out.
 
The only cuts I 100% am ok with and even want are Squirtle and Ivysaur.
The only cuts I would accept if I absolutely had to are Lucas and Wolf.
The only cut I have come to terms with but really really don't want to happen is Snake.
Everything else for me has to be in (Jigglypuff, Ness, R.O.B etc)

At the start I didn't mind Ike and Lucario being replaced by another Fire Emblem and Pokemon character but I'm happy they're in. I hate cuts :(

Glad Pokemon Trainer is out. Bummed Lucario is still in. Would love for Lucas, Wolf, R.O.B., and Snake to be cut. Would be bummed if Meta-Knight were cut, but not heartbroken.

Everyone else + Mewtwo remains in or else
 
Why do people say wolf is a clone?
Feeble minds.

The only cuts I 100% am ok with and even want are Squirtle and Ivysaur.
The only cuts I would accept if I absolutely had to are Lucas and Wolf.
The only cut I have come to terms with but really really don't want to happen is Snake.
Everything else for me has to be in (Jigglypuff, Ness, R.O.B etc)

At the start I didn't mind Ike and Lucario being replaced by another Fire Emblem and Pokemon character but I'm happy they're in. I hate cuts :(
I dig this entirely. Except for Star Wolf getting cut. Absurd.
 
The only cuts I 100% am ok with and even want are Squirtle and Ivysaur.
The only cuts I would accept if I absolutely had to are Lucas and Wolf.
The only cut I have come to terms with but really really don't want to happen is Snake.
Everything else for me has to be in (Jigglypuff, Ness, R.O.B etc)

At the start I didn't mind Ike and Lucario being replaced by another Fire Emblem and Pokemon character but I'm happy they're in. I hate cuts :(

I agree with everything EXCEPT for *WANTING* anyone cut.
 
I suppose at a push I could move R.O.B to the same group as Snake. Something I've come to terms with the possibility of getting cut but really really don't want it to be. He's completely unique but I can understand if he was a one off experiment, and is replaced by something equally as wacky. (He was also a one off in Mario Kart DS). Snake is there for obvious reasons (and if he is gone I will miss his stage and music) but R.O.B I suppose is just one notch below Jigglypuff, Ness, Game and Watch, Falco and Meta Knight in how upset I would be.
 
I agree with everything EXCEPT for *WANTING* anyone cut.

Something about Squirtle and Ivysaur having their own slot feels odd to me. If they are there then so be it. I don't necessarily believe in a character "taking up" a slot, but that'll be a lot of Pokemon (gen 1 at that) if Jigglypuff and especially Mewtwo were to return too.
 
Wolf never felt like a clone to me, outside of his Final Smash. The fact his pistol is bladed and had melee properties made him unique, and his various feral stances and claw-swiping attacks all set him apart.
 
Wolf to Fox is like Sakura to Ryu, they don't play a like but are clearly built from the same shoto base

Yeah I know Mario is more shoto then Fox in Smash, but I'm just talking conceptually
 
Wolf wasn't a clone. If anything he's like an Akuma to Ryu. Similar but wholly different.



Now, Lucario on the otherhand...../s

That.. Would still be considered a clone.

Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sakura, Dan, Sean, Gouken, Evil Ryu, Oni.
Sagat.

They're all different in some way, some greater than others, but they still take after Ryu/Ken.
 
Opinion respected ofcourse but......WHAT?!

She never shuts up, does nothing but piss and moan about everything the entire game, her only redeeming factors being her good VA and her genre savvy (which is also her only real characterization).

If Pit wasn't the worst character, she'd be nothing. Viridi, Hades and Phyrron (rip in peace) carry the game.
 
If someone got Lucas' moveset, I'd be OK with that. Ness' moveset is just...not very good.

Hell, you could change all of Lucas' special moves and I'd be perfectly fine playing with him still.
 
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