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[zroid]

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I get that "dangerous plays" still qualify even when unintentional, but I just don't know how he could've avoided the contact in this instance.

edit: I don't know about this cleats up thing. I guess maybe? Oh well.

 

[Firemind]

Yes. But my point is, it wasn't as nasty as aiming to hit the player instead of the ball.

Yellow would suffice.

You don't kick the ball with your cleats, mate.

 

[Shoogoo]

Ecuador screwed their best chance to score with hairnet dude. Id be surprised if they manage to score now.

Also fuck Shaka, that guy is walking like the game doesnt matter

 

[Broder Salsa]

that one clearly wasn't a red as well.

No it most definitely was. You don't shield the ball, with your cleats up on other players knees.

 

[figadapaura]

So that was a red

And this was a yellow

smh

Seriously?

Obviously the ref got that decision wrong. Should have been a red all day long.

 

[fasTRapid]

source?

I'm a DFB ref.

 

[krYlon]

It was a red. Doesn't matter if it was intentional or he got the ball first. You can break someone's leg going into a challenge like that. You can't put your studs up like that, the rules are clear on this.

 

[beato_angelico]

No it most definitely was.

in the world of shitty referees, I guess yes.

 

[KingSnake]

good spirit by ecuador

they could nick this

They seem free from pressure now. And Valencia was getting the ball too much in the middle of the field and slowing the play.

 

[spectral_method]

The issue isn't wether the foul was accidental or not. The cleats went into the other guy's leg. According to regulation that merits grounds for a red card, ref decided to issue it. End of story guys.

 

[Abraxas]

Motherfucking commentator, its shaqiri not zatzini

 

[Fergie]

Ecuador making it hard.

 

[Afrikan]

I don't know why Shaqiri didn't take that first shot..wow.

 

[WAR recon zero]

I'm a DFB ref.

Source

 

[mellz]

Stop embarrassing yourself. That one crazy tackle wasn't punished as it should have been, doesn't mean you should allow less crazy tackles that should still be a red. How many times do you need to be told that today? That did seem accidental to me too, but stop comparing it to that Uruguay challenge.

How am I embarrassing myself? Valencia's tackle wasn't a red and of course we need to compare different tackles to know what's red.

 

[Broder Salsa]

in the world of shitty referees, I guess yes.

No in a world where a player, puts his studs up on another players knee. It's a red.

 

[Salvadora]

Remy and not Giroud?

France, please.

 

[Fularu]

I get that "dangerous plays" still qualify even when unintentional, but I just don't know how he could've avoided the contact in this instance.

By not using his cleats. While unintentional, you just don't do that

 

[Resident_UA]

I'm a DFB ref.

So if somebody intentionally breaks the leg, but touches a ball on the way there it's a yellow? I don't think there's a rule that specific. You might as well post a source.

 

[WAR recon zero]

Studs up is red.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys ever played football in your life.

 

[Myggen]

It was a red. Doesn't matter if it was intentional or he got the ball first. You can break someone's leg going into a challenge like that. You can't put your studs up like that, the rules are clear on this.

Yup. And for people saying Valencia couldn't have avoided it because the French player went into the tackle too; he could, by not raising his studs like that in the first place. It's a red.

 

[Magni]

Valencia was a red, Marchisio was a red, and that dirty Uruguay tackle should have been a red, and Suarez should have been a red + long-term suspension. Studs up = red. Biting = red + suspension.

 

[Confrontation]

I get that "dangerous plays" still qualify even when unintentional, but I just don't know how he could've avoided the contact in this instance.

You're taught from the juniors that you don't go studs high with a raised foot like that into any challenge. If you see guy a sliding, you either stop, go in sliding aswell or jump. You raise your foot and expose your studs, even if it is towards the ball and not the opponent's legs, you're gone.

 

[john whiteguy84]

After seeing peoples reactions to the valencia red, you can clearly tell who understands the game and who doesn't

 

[Guamu]

So that was a red

And this was a yellow

smh

The only way this post makes sense is if both games had the same referee.

Haven't looked, but I doubt it

 

[Shoogoo]

Should have been penalty. Fuck that ref.

 

[pulga]

WE STILL HAVE MORE POSSESSION

#MORALVICTORS

 

[Navy Bean]

The yellow card/red card dichotomy is kinda ridiculous in soccer.

Yellow - basically no penalty at all outside of a free kick.

Red - severe penalty, sent off for remainder of game.

And the problem is that there is a very fine line between the two. Makes no sense, maybe they should increase the penalty for a yellow, maybe off for 10 minutes. Save reds for really egregious shit.

 

[Kurtofan]

 

[figadapaura]

Straight at the GK.

Poor.

 

[Fularu]

Dominguez is in great shape tonight

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Looks to me like the Ecuador player was trying to stop the ball and avoid the slide but the slide took his foot off the ball. Running like that, there's no way to avoid stepping on the defender's leg when he slides in like that. Had his foot been parallel to the ground, he would have still raked his studs across the defender's leg. It was completely unintentional and totally initiated by the defender's aggressive play.

A ref needs to be smarter than that.

 

[Eyeh4wk]

Wow, Domingues is blocking everything.

 

[WAR recon zero]

So if somebody intentionally breaks the leg, but touches a ball on the way there it's a yellow? I don't think there's a rule that specific. You might as well post a source.

There is no such rule. If you use excessive force of go studs up is a red no matter you touched the ball

 

[nny]

Combover ref, wtf!

 

[Broder Salsa]

How am I embarrassing myself? Valencia's tackle wasn't a red and of course we need to compare different tackles to know what's red.

No you really don't and I'm pretty sure that has already been explained to you once today? Or was that someone else bringing up the exact same shitty point? We can all agree that referee made a mistake in the Uruguay match. That was as clear a red as they come, just after biting people at least. It's not a standard to compare other challenges to.

 

[Black Republican]

ECU goalkeeping = one man army

 

[QuicheFontaine]

I'm turning into a real Dominguez fanboy here. He's keeping Ecuador in this game

 

[Shoogoo]

Or maybe not.

 

[Tecl0n]

Dominguez going to work today.

Also,

Studs up that make contact with another player is a red. There is no discussion to be had.

 

[Sviatoslav]

Honduras robbed. That was a pen.

 

[dani_dc]

Should had been Penalty for Honduras and red for the Swiss player.

 

[zroid]

By not using his cleats. While unintentional, you just don't do that

You're taught from the juniors that you don't go studs high with a raised foot like that into any challenge. If you see guy a sliding, you either stop, go in sliding aswell or jump. You raise your foot and expose your studs, even if it is towards the ball and not the opponent's legs, you're gone.

I guess that's fair. Didn't know it was something players were expected to be conscious of.


edit: Dominguez is a beast

 

[Shoogoo]

Fuck Shaka, what a twat

 

[Guamu]

The yellow card/red card dichotomy is kinda ridiculous in soccer.

Yellow - basically no penalty at all outside of a free kick.

Red - severe penalty, sent off for remainder of game.

And the problem is that there is a very fine line between the two. Makes no sense, maybe they should increase the penalty for a yellow, maybe off for 10 minutes. Save reds for really egregious shit.

Wrong, two yellows and you're out

Two yellows on different games and you lose the next one

 

[Xpike]

fucking dumb refs still not having the balls to give penalties even though it was clear.

 

[Chakan]

On other news, americans are asking the White House to make a national holiday tomorrow due to the match against Germany.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-thursday-26th-national-holiday/0hjv6zdL

Is this frequent?

 

[Raist]

This french line up sucks ass. Don't use it again, Deschamps.

 

[SkylineRKR]

It looked like he wanted to roll the ball with his studs before Digne charged in. Didn't look entirely intentional but I could see why the ref would send him off because his studs did touch a leg.

The uruguay tackle, with 2 extended legs that seemed to aim for shins first, thats always a red in my book.

 

[Sviatoslav]

Fuck Shaka, what a twat

Who's that, a mix of Shaqiri and Xhaka?