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[Mr Buddy]

I don't know if it's been posted, but that fake Paper Mario stage pic.

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/782854-super-smash-brothers#comments

I wish it were real so bad.

;_; now I'm sad. It would be cool if they made a TTYD stage that's based on the theater battle screens in that game. It would be super awesome if the audience threw stuff at you while playing

 

[Nickle]

You guys aren't even trying to understand. I provided plenty of facts that show that Melee's gameplay is objectively better than Brawl's. There nothing subjective about it.

Maybe you should Google what "objective" means. "Objective" is not when their are a large amount of objects.

 

[OricWindstar]

Like I said, there's no accounting for taste.

Aaaaaaaand, I'm tapping out. I just can't risk a ban over this.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Pic of the day. Here's Nabbit, who appears in the Mushroom Kingdom U stage. You can't see him, but Luigi is inside Nabbit's bag.

 

[Benzychenz]

I guess you could make that argument if you really wanted to, but they're not really the same thing, especially since only the best characters are regularly used, and Brawl has worse balance than Melee. Of course, that's why I'd argue Project M in better than all of them gameplay-wise.

But that's bringing your opinion of what's important into it again.

For me, character balance doesn't really matter as I play 4 character free for alls with items on. My favourites are Link, Lucario, Dedede and Wolf. 3/4 aren't even in Melee.

 

[Crocodile]

This thread:

 

[Mr. Smiley]

D'awww

 

[J-Tier]

NABBIT! Yussss....!

 

[Beelzebufo]

Maybe you should Google what "objective" means. "Objective" is not when their are a large amount of objects.

Tell me how "Brawl has tripping" or "Melee has more movement options" are opinions.

But that's bringing your opinion of what's important into it again.

For me, character balance doesn't really matter as I play 4 character free for alls with items on. My favourites are Link, Lucario, Dedede and Wolf. 3/4 aren't even in Melee.

Its a completely different issue that's unrelated to core gameplay, so it doesn't matter anyway.

 

[GamerSoul]

what am I looking at?

 

[OricWindstar]

Ooooooh, what have we here? Stage hazard? AT?

EDIT: Stage Hazard! Very cool.

 

[Hours Left]

Nabbit is getting a big push it seems.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Hopefully something about stealing items.

Edit: oh wut, year of Luigi is truly over?

 

[Neiteio]

It's not though. The best characters are objectively played more often than the subjective ones. And additional characters aren't part of the core gameplay, they fit into the same category is stages (additional content). The core gameplay is based on the engine.

I like a variety of play styles in my fighting games. Brawl objectively has more. Brawl is more interesting and less predictable and more fun.

See? "Objective" is only as meaningful as what you're looking for in the game. And that "no accounting for taste" proves nothing, other than your taste is different.

'Tis the point I make, aping your attitude

 

[Nickle]

what am I looking at?

A Gaffer stealing meaningful conversation.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Come on, Melee Vs Brawl is getting old. Let unite together in awe of Sakurai's Cat

I like this idea. Let's stare.

Spoiler

Melee is like an apple; Brawl is like an orange.

 

[Tripon]

Nabbit killed Luigi and stuck his dead carcass into his napsack?

 

[JediLink]

So I think I've made my position in Melee vs Brawl adequately clear here, but suggesting that Melee's gameplay is objectively better than Brawl is ridiculous. The concept of "objectively better" doesn't exist.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I like a variety of play styles in my fighting games. Brawl objectively has more. Brawl is more interesting and less predictable and more fun.

See? "Objective" is only as meaningful as what you're looking for in the game. And that "no accounting for taste" proves nothing, other than your taste is different.

'Tis the point I make, aping your attitude

That's not what we were talking about though, so it's not appropriate.

 

[Dagobert Duck]

Nabbit killed Luigi and stuck his dead carcass into his napsack?

Oh my...Luigi will get out that bag eventually and show his magnificient death stare wont he?

 

[Neiteio]

That's not what we were talking about though, so it's not appropriate.

*rolls eyes*

So anyways, NABBIT

 

[Hyperactivity]

What Pokemon comparison? And both Brawl and Melee are two games in the same series that immediately follow one another, are made by the same person, and even use the same controller. It's a fair comparison.

Spoiler

Please don't make me repeat myself again

Neiteio already covered this above



So how do you categorize Pokemon's gameplay

Top 10% are lucky to get usage in OU
What gen is better. Technically gen 6 should have the most, but spme consider gen 4 UU to have the best balance and be one of the greatest tiers of all time. Different metagames in different gens and tiers

And bolded, how the hell isn't the same with pokemon
Is gen 2's stall driven, war not battle metagame the greatest, or gen 5's hyper offensive weather one

OU or UU or Ubers or RU or NU or Little Cup
Can you answer that question?
Doubles or Singles. Both have various differences in the way you plan, what strategies are effective, etc.

Like I said, there's no accounting for taste.

Your favorite game is shit, and any argument otherwise just means that there's no accoutning for taste

There's a reason why when saying x game is better than y, people either have an imo in there or say the overall CONSENSUS, as in overall OPINION, which means the subjective, is so and so

 

[GamerSoul]

A Gaffer stealing meaningful conversation.

lol

nabbit? looks familiar

 

[Mr. Smiley]

So I think I've made my position in Melee vs Brawl adequately clear here, but suggesting that Melee's gameplay is objectively better than Brawl is ridiculous. The concept of "objectively better" doesn't exist.

This is all your fault. Look what you've done to SmashGaf. You and your cakes.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Nabbit is getting a big push it seems.

Give it another year and he'll probably be seen as the Mario series' new Lightening.

 

[random25]

Nabbit looks so cool! Wanted him to be a playable, but nonetheless still cool!

What would he do with a kidnapped Luigi though?

 

[Beelzebufo]

*rolls eyes*

So anyways, NABBIT

I'm sorry? You can't get mad at me when you were the one who started talking about something else.

And yeah, Nabbits cool, but he's no Falco.

 

[Benzychenz]

Its a completely different issue that's unrelated to core gameplay, so it doesn't matter anyway.

Again, your opinions are clouding your judgement of what's important to the core gameplay of Smash. To me the core gameplay is about the character roster and their attacks, and how it interacts with the stages and items.

Movement options and tripping is secondary, stuff that compliments (or detracts from) what I consider to be the core gameplay.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

So, one more day until that GameFAQs leak gets shut down...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Nabbit looks so cool! Wanted him to be a playable, but nonetheless still cool!

What would he do with a kidnapped Luigi though?

Peach hired Nabbit to kidnap Luigi and deposit him in another kingdom.

 

[Anth0ny]

gif of the day: glitched out youtube edition

alternatively: my reaction to this thread right now

 

[jph139]

Nabbit's the best. Still sad he didn't end up in Mario Kart 8... glad to see him showing up here, though! Wonder why he wasn't in the demo build.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Yay, Nabbit!

 

[foxuzamaki]

what....what happened in here...

 

[Beelzebufo]

Again, your opinions are clouding your judgement of what's important to the core gameplay of Smash. To me the core gameplay is about the character roster and their attacks, and how it interacts with the stages and items.

Movement options and tripping is secondary, stuff that compliments (or detracts from) what I consider to be the core gameplay.

That's objectively not what core gameplay is though. Not in the context we're talking about. If you interpret it another way, that's fine, but it doesn't make it right. You're talking about something else entirely.

 

[Neiteio]

I'm sorry? You can't get mad at me when you were the one who started talking about something else.

And yeah, Nabbits cool, but he's no Falco.

 

[J-Tier]

Tell me how "Brawl has tripping" or "Melee has more movement options" are opinions.


Its a completely different issue that's unrelated to core gameplay, so it doesn't matter anyway.

Brawl having tripping or melee having more movement options isn't what everyone is up in arms about. It's you stating that one is objectively better than the other. Just because one has flaws, does not make it worse than the other for EVERYONE. Just because one has more options, doesn't make it better for EVERYONE. Everyone's getting riled up because you're stating that the "gameplay" of one is better than the other as fact.

The fact that so many people are arguing against you already makes your statement about it being objective false. It's super subjective. You can't just say taste isn't a factor then mark it off as a fact.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

what....what happened in here...

SmashGAF happened.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

You guys aren't even trying to understand. I provided plenty of facts that show that Melee's gameplay is objectively better than Brawl's. There nothing subjective about it.

No, I know exactly what you're trying to say. You're the one who isn't even trying to understand what everyone else is saying: that you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about. Literally everyone in this thread is either trying to explain to you why your thoughts on facts and opinions are wrong, or they're laughing at your ignorance, and you haven't once - not once - given the idea that you might not be right half a thought.

Whatever. I'm done.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I'm glad we're being mature :/

Next time, just don't make an off topic post if you're so mad lol

No, I know exactly what you're trying to say. You're the one who isn't even trying to understand what everyone else is saying: that you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about. Literally everyone in this thread is either trying to explain to you why your thoughts on facts and opinions are wrong, or they're laughing at your ignorance, and you haven't once - not once - given the idea that you might not be right half a thought.

Whatever. I'm done.

I'd love to try to see you give one example of how I'm wrong. It'd more constructive than the baseless insults you're throwing around.

 

[Nickle]

That's objectively not what core gameplay is though. Not in the context we're talking about. If you interpret it another way, that's fine, but it doesn't make it right. You're talking about something else entirely.

Gameplay is when you press buttons on the controller and stuff happens as a result.

 

[javadoze]

Nabbit looks so cool! Wanted him to be a playable, but nonetheless still cool!

What would he do with a kidnapped Luigi though?

Maybe he'll jump off the stage with Luigi still inside the bag?

 

[Benzychenz]

That's objectively not what core gameplay is though. Not in the context we're talking about. If you interpret it another way, that's fine, but it doesn't make it right. You're talking about something else entirely.

And just because you interpret it that way doesn't make it right.

You seriously don't understand what opinions are do you?

 

[Neiteio]

Maybe he'll jump off the stage with Luigi still inside the bag?

Weegee's in the bag? Did they post the caption yet and I missed it?

 

[IntelliHeath]

Weegee's in the bag? Did they post the caption yet and I missed it?

Ehhh. it's in my post.

 

[Beelzebufo]

And just because you interpret it that way doesn't make it right.

You seriously don't understand what opinions are do you?

That's the only way it can be interpreted, that's what we're talking about. You came in and started talking about something completely different. It's not that hard to understand.

 

[J-Tier]

I'd love to try to see you give one example of how I'm wrong. It'd more constructive than the baseless insults you're throwing around.

It's not that you're wrong. It's that you're both right. Opinions.

 

[Azure J]

gif of the day: glitched out youtube edition

alternatively: my reaction to this thread right now

There are times when GAF makes me feel so immature given that I'm a 24 year old who spends far too much time engaging and even more reacting to complete ridiculousness.

This time however, I don't think any other post could have been more perfect while reducing me to tears. :lol

 

[IntelliHeath]

Will post again.

Pic of the day. Here's Nabbit, who appears in the Mushroom Kingdom U stage. You can't see him, but Luigi is inside Nabbit's bag.

 

[J-Tier]

Pic of the day. Here's Nabbit, who appears in the Mushroom Kingdom U stage. You can't see him, but Luigi is inside Nabbit's bag.

Quoting for new page.

Edit: Lol Heath. You nabbed it.