Masked Man
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Me: "O Wise Yellow Pikmin, who hath been deemed worthy of Smash?"
Yellow Pikmin: "..."
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Me: "O Wise Yellow Pikmin, who hath been deemed worthy of Smash?"
Yellow Pikmin: "..."
Me: "O Wise Yellow Pikmin, who hath been deemed worthy of Smash?"
Yellow Pikmin: "..."
lmao I was NOT expecting that. good show.
And that's awesome. I hope you get to a good amount of time with the game, man.
SliceSabre
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I honestly thought the Miis would simply have their weight defaulted as middle weight and the actual size of your Mii wouldn't matter.
This update is a nice little surprise.
This update is a nice little surprise.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Cool. Please post some pictures here if you can!
Thank you!
Masked Man
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Me too!My girlfriend and I are going tomorrow. So pumped!
Awesome! Maybe I'll see you at the show!
Thanks, man! It seems like the show is going to be packed with kids, but it looks like they're doing some event for Yokai Watch, so I'm secretly hoping that they all spend their time over there instead and let me play plenty of Smash.
Will do! I don't see anything about photography being outlawed, so I think I should be okay.
Yeah, my guess is that they're fixing up some issues from E3 before they show it to the public again (if they decide to show it in the first place).
Thank you! This news completely made my day.
I... I think I can fap to thisMe: "O Wise Yellow Pikmin, who hath been deemed worthy of Smash?"
Yellow Pikmin: "..."
Awesome! Maybe I'll see you at the show!
Haha I'll be the white guy with black hair wearing a blue cardigan.
I literally just found out about this thing too. Hopefully the line isn't too long!
That whole scene is like the textbook example of "That escalated quickly," lol
BassForever
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That ain't falco
Hyperactivity
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He one-ups you
He's a part of competitive pokemon, or at least has knowledge about it
And there are FAR more bans in comp. pokemon then in smash
tonyh24613
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Thread 10: Killing leaks one at a time.
That doesn't necessarily mean that he knows why things get banned in competitive smash.
I still don't know about the Mii fighter, being able to change it's attributes as well as it's moves makes it seem like it would be too easy just to create a character with really good everything.
Also this is more personal preference but I don't want to see mii's at tournaments if only because they look silly, but I'm sure taking too long to set up will take care of that for me.
Beelzebufo
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Best miiverse post
Hyperactivity
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Was talking about bans in general
I feel Miis, if such an amazing set of moves were to exist, would go under complex bans, banning certain combos of moves (another Pokemon reference, Ingrain+Baton Pass in Gen 3)
I think there will be 3 default miis. Doubt Sakurai will makes a heavy small character, or light giant character, as it isn't typically what he does.
From this a certain loadout can be chosen on specials, maybe put a time limit on deciding for players would be good
Beelzebufo
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It's not fair to compare Smash to Pokemon in this way. The competitive Pokemon community bans characters/set ups all the time, the Smash community has never universally banned a character.
Hyperactivity
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That time wasn't trying to compare it in that way
What I was saying is that given that Mii and Palutena, which look to have no fully defined standard moveset, let alone all the other characters in the game with customizable movesets, nay be subject to complex bans of some sort with certain combinations of moves should those combinations be found to be broken
In addition, I was saying players should have a certain time to make their loadout of moves for the match, or maybe even for the set, or even for the entire tournament, now that I think about it. Choose your loadout once per tounament, first time you choose a character (or maybe probably just for Mii and maybe Palutena)
This was just a proposed idea on the clusterfuck customizable moves and Miis will be in regards to comp. smash.
Pokemon comparison was just given as an afterthought, it's not the main point in any way
DICKS AHOY
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give us video proof of chunky kong being one hell of a guy
blitzwolf215
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I'm confused, why were people expecting Falco?
Vermillion
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Pic of the day. Some of the physical characteristics of Miis get carried over when you use them as Mii Fighters. The smaller ones become speed fighters and the bigger ones are more akin to power fighters.
Cool!
The problem with having complex bans in smash is that it is a very matchup based game.
If someone says a move is overpowered then we have to find out why it's overpowered, is it only over powered against a certain character? only overpowered on a certain stage? only overpowered against a certain character when on a certain stage?
Then you have people complaining that X's move is overpowered against Y character, with the people who play X characters saying that it's the only way X can have a favourable matchup against Y.
At this point it becomes futile and the easiest route is to just ban custom moves.
I have a feeling custom moves will be accepted (as long as you can change them via the CSS, if not, say bye to custom moves in tournaments), but the extra bit with miis about being able to change it's weight based on the mii's attributes that you'll be changing via the mii maker and not in game is too much and if you're just using standard miis then what's the point of the character anyway?
Also choosing a loadout for a tournament and sticking to it is bad, custom moves are designed to help certain characters in certain matchups, not letting a player customise their moves based on who their opponent picks would be stupid.
Smash isn't like pokemon where you can choose all the stuff you want to use beforehand based on a set of rules, it's a lot more dynamic in what players should and shouldn't use and can change a lot between games.
Nobody was "expecting" falco, but there was a supposed leak and people wanted to see if it was true or not.
You'll F5 ad infinitum for any new information?
balladofwindfishes
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So there are 3 different weight classes for 3 different fighting styles, each with 3 switchable custom moves between 4 special slots
WOW
WOW
Diprosalic
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#banned
How do we know there are three? Was it in a trailer, or something with the Mii Maker?
balladofwindfishes
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Should weight also affect jumping height?
OmegaSmash
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Custom moves for Miis and Palutena (and maybe everyone else) being legal at tournaments will mostly depend on how long it takes to set them up. If they can be set up right on the character select screen in a quick matter, then I could see custom moves being allowed for them in the short term, then maybe let all the characters use them (after testing of course). If not, then everyone goes with default movesets (you can turn off customization offline right? I swear I saw something like that in a screenshot)
As for the whole attribute thing for Miis, yeah there's no way that's getting a pass. Although we don't really know just how that's going to work regarding when you choose the Mii, so it's really early to tell.
As for the whole attribute thing for Miis, yeah there's no way that's getting a pass. Although we don't really know just how that's going to work regarding when you choose the Mii, so it's really early to tell.
balladofwindfishes
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The easiest way is probably to not allow custom moves, and treat each Miis weight class and fighting class as separate characters. 9 additional characters is not hard to manage at all, having 3 set Miis already made, it would be no less smooth than picking any other character.
S-Brawler
S-Sword
S-Blaster
M-Brawler
M-Sword
M-Blaster
L-Brawler
L-Sword
L-Blaster
Not hard to work into tournaments at all.
You know those attributes are set when you make a Mii. We've seen how it works in a game like Mario Kart. It really isn't as big a deal as some are making it out to be.
Was it the Falco gamefaqs leak? I think that was it.
Wasn't someone speculating about mii size = weight class? Congratz for guessing it right. I totally thought there was no way you'd be right. Guess I lose! Really cool for sakurai to implement that. I wonder how truly different they will be. If it'll be sonic > Bowser levels of difference or Marth > Ike levels of difference.
Anyone care to re post it?
Anyone willing to give it a pass if falco is on monday?
I still think he'll be part of the unlockable crew. My prediction for next veteran is either Wario or Ice Climbers. Metaknight will be unlockable this time so that kirby can have an unlockable rep.
Anyone care to re post it?
Anyone willing to give it a pass if falco is on monday?
I still think he'll be part of the unlockable crew. My prediction for next veteran is either Wario or Ice Climbers. Metaknight will be unlockable this time so that kirby can have an unlockable rep.
That actually made me laugh, didn't see it coming haha
I think custom moves will be banned just for the sake of time/logistics.
From what we've seen so far though, I have no reason to believe they're unfair. Seems like a more significant version of something like gems in SFxT (did those end up banned? I actually don't remember at all)
From what we've seen so far though, I have no reason to believe they're unfair. Seems like a more significant version of something like gems in SFxT (did those end up banned? I actually don't remember at all)
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