There's no one on earth that thinks this is going to sell well. It's a niche, hardcore title on a flagging platform. Getting to a million is a high hope at this point, hell maybe even half a million is too grand a goal.
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There's no one on earth that thinks this is going to sell well. It's a niche, hardcore title on a flagging platform. Getting to a million is a high hope at this point, hell maybe even half a million is too grand a goal.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
How is that conservasial?
CadetMahoney
Member
I didn't say "sales" forum hype, the other type of hype.
I just made my Opinion on "Remastering" 1 year old games. It just cash grabs and nothing more. and before you say anything, No i don't like Capcom doing the same thing either.
Speaking of Capcom: Street Fighter 4 is the most overrated fighting game in existance. Mortal Kombat 9, Marvel 3, Injustice, and Tekken Tag 2 were far better games and no i don't care what the people at Evo say.
Speaking of Capcom: Street Fighter 4 is the most overrated fighting game in existance. Mortal Kombat 9, Marvel 3, Injustice, and Tekken Tag 2 were far better games and no i don't care what the people at Evo say.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
How do you feel about GTA being ported a year later to PC?
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
3D Sonic is superior to 2D Sonic. Sonic Adventure is best Sonic.
freakzilla3000
Junior Member
Not a fan of Metal Gear Solid at all.
Based Calla
Member
The Wonderful 101 wasn't as good as GAF promotes it. It's okay, definitely not a must have game.
What is it about video games that means it's impossible for there to be good story telling?
I wouldn't even say this is controversial. That game just feels really weird and clunky with the drawing patterns to summon weapons.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Halo 3 is the game of the generation and shotty snipers is hands down the best multiplayer game mode.
TheAdmiester
Member
I don't think that's controversial at all, shotty snipers was fucking fantastic. I absolutely loved playing it on Valhalla and headshotting people as they were flying defenselessly through the air from the gravlifts.
MGS3 is not a shooter.
wat? There is.
There is. Use CQC.
This is not an opinion, it's objectively false. Unless it's a joke post.
Turn based RPGs are archaic in design. i feel like people like them because of nostalgia goggles.
Battles usually play out like this:
I hit you --->you hit me.
Or the variation!
I hit you---> you hit me HARD---> I gotta heal---> Repeat
I feel like this type of gameplay should of died out when text adventure gaming did. But then again, people still kickstart those as well. NOSTALGIA.
UNLESS you are an SRPG (Valkyria Chronicles, Fire Emblem...) where your positioning actually matters in combat and you arent face-tanking your enemy's hits, you should NOT be turn based. Watch and see, FFXV will be better for it.
OH OH also, the next persona (5) should go real time combat. Real time combat is the natural evolution from that filthy-turn-based-boring-style.
Battles usually play out like this:
I hit you --->you hit me.
Or the variation!
I hit you---> you hit me HARD---> I gotta heal---> Repeat
I feel like this type of gameplay should of died out when text adventure gaming did. But then again, people still kickstart those as well. NOSTALGIA.
UNLESS you are an SRPG (Valkyria Chronicles, Fire Emblem...) where your positioning actually matters in combat and you arent face-tanking your enemy's hits, you should NOT be turn based. Watch and see, FFXV will be better for it.
OH OH also, the next persona (5) should go real time combat. Real time combat is the natural evolution from that filthy-turn-based-boring-style.
*Puts fingers in ears.*
Polioliolio
Member
You know, I've enjoyed quite a many turn based RPGs, but if you play a 10+ year old RPG you've never played yet, it's a piece of shit.
RPGs age like hell. Meanwhile, even the shittiest of shit game where I can move and jump is still fun and playable to some extent.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I agree with you. I like games that require technical skill.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I agree with this completely. I've bought so many PSOne classics on the PSN thinking I would catch up on games I missed only to find out that time hasn't been kind to them. As much as I love Final Fantasy and older RPGs, it can be a true drag getting myself through some of those games. In some cases though, I'm still not convinced it's an aging issue so much as a era change. There are so many twitch-reaction games that play lightening fast that it can be really hard to just sit and play through something with such a ponderous pace.
Yeah, most of them really do. I want to get into Fallout 2 so hard it's unbearable, but the gameplay is just horrible. Then again, I'm more into JRPG and ARPG gameplay anyway than cRPG
That's sort of what I was getting at as well.
I feel like we should be moving away as time goes on from turn based games now that we have the capability to add collision detection to our games. It seems developers are realizing this... (borderlands, Fallout, TES, Kingdom Hearts <3)
I would like Tidus to dodge that attack, good sir. Maybe I dont want to stand there and take that Mabufu straight in the skull? Maybe I want to move out of range of that 'sing' attack from that annoying jigglypuff?
There could still be a strategic layer involved. Enemies could still have their usual elemental weaknesses/resistances and varying attack speeds/ranges, and numbers could still pop up on screen for the 'min/maxers' out there.
It's just.... I wanna move out the way.
*Oh and dont get me started on the random battles from invisible enemies. Especially in that game with its tall grass.
UNACCEPTABLE. At least do like Persona with the black blobs on the floor (representing monsters). jeez.
Sparrowhawk
Member
Turned-based RPG systems have nothing to do with collision. That made me laugh.
Based Calla
Member
Yeah, but this place just seems like PlatinumGAF at time, and Kamiya can never do wrong, even when he sleeps with your mom.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I've yet to find a PC first person dungeon crawler that looks anywhere near as fun as Sega's classics Shining in the Darkness and Holy Ark.
The Wizardy titles and Might and Magic X look like shit. Can't find anything decent on my phone either.
The Wizardy titles and Might and Magic X look like shit. Can't find anything decent on my phone either.
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Either you misunderstood my post or I worded it wrong.
Let me clarify: I do not think collision has anything to do with turn based games (that just made my brain hurt a little bit).
Moving on...
^That is annoying. No more random battles pls.
What are you talking about?
Mr. Smiley
Member
Don't most modern turn-based RPGs do away with random generated battles? The only ones I can think of are indie games aiming for nostalgia or Pokemon which is only in rare areas and grass.
I've yet to find a PC first person dungeon crawler that looks anywhere near as fun as Sega's classics Shining in the Darkness and Holy Ark.
The Wizardy titles and Might and Magic X look like shit. Can't find anything decent on my phone either.
Might and Magic X is ugly, but the game is fantastic, you should really try it.
This post is one of this thread's best. It succesfully managed to piss me off. Love this thread.
Disgaeamad
Member
God I hate GAF.
On topic: Dark Souls II is as good as Dark Souls and everyone crying about how it's bad are big babies with no actual point to make other than 'B-BUT B TEAM!!'
On topic: Dark Souls II is as good as Dark Souls and everyone crying about how it's bad are big babies with no actual point to make other than 'B-BUT B TEAM!!'
Haha XD i try.
To be fair, I got pissed off too as well at some of the other posts in this thread. The only way to 'UN-pissed' yourself is to follow the threads rules and submit your own controversial opinion. LOL
This is like therapy.
As far as atmosphere and lore go, DSII is a mess.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
This is only acceptable if you think 2D gaming should have died out a long time ago as well.
GT7 having standard cars.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
http://www.gog.com/game/anvil_of_dawnI've yet to find a PC first person dungeon crawler that looks anywhere near as fun as Sega's classics Shining in the Darkness and Holy Ark.
The Wizardy titles and Might and Magic X look like shit. Can't find anything decent on my phone either.
http://www.gog.com/game/ishar_compilation
Not all good things are on Steam.
something a bit different that is on steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/263560/
http://www.gog.com/game/paper_sorcerer
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
I might have said some of these things years ago but here are some:
Sierra adventure games > LucasArts (except Grim Fandango and Maniac Mansion but I would have Phantasmagoria and Gabriel Knight II ahead of them
Halo is unplayable to me
Smash Bros Brawl is not only the best Smash but the greatest fighting game of all time (except perhaps Tekken 3 and the first Soul Caliber)
Sin and Punishment may very well be the only playable N64 game for me
All Virtual Fighter games feel like a chore to play
Ibb and Obb, Hotline Miami, and Heavy Rain are my 3 favorite PS3 games
Diablo 3 is the best Diablo
The Godfather Blackhand Edition is my favorite Wii game and more playable than any of the GTA games
Link to the Past is the best in series but Twilight Princess is close, OoT is boring
The original iPostal is a top 10 of all time for me.
Sierra adventure games > LucasArts (except Grim Fandango and Maniac Mansion but I would have Phantasmagoria and Gabriel Knight II ahead of them
Halo is unplayable to me
Smash Bros Brawl is not only the best Smash but the greatest fighting game of all time (except perhaps Tekken 3 and the first Soul Caliber)
Sin and Punishment may very well be the only playable N64 game for me
All Virtual Fighter games feel like a chore to play
Ibb and Obb, Hotline Miami, and Heavy Rain are my 3 favorite PS3 games
Diablo 3 is the best Diablo
The Godfather Blackhand Edition is my favorite Wii game and more playable than any of the GTA games
Link to the Past is the best in series but Twilight Princess is close, OoT is boring
The original iPostal is a top 10 of all time for me.
mdsfx
Member
I have a question, why the hell isnt the world bored to death of shooters yet? How many of them do we really need? Dont get me wrong, ive enjoyed many of them over the years, but where is the real creativity that would provide us with new and unique gaming experiences? Think about all of the resources dedicated to shooters that COULD be working on something different.
For some reason FPSs are like crack to so many people and i just dont get it. Is that ALL you want from games? Well dont worry, your supply chain will seemingly never run dry. You can virtually shoot things over and over and over... [Zzzzz] until the end of time. Yay.
CoD 4 Life <3
For some reason FPSs are like crack to so many people and i just dont get it. Is that ALL you want from games? Well dont worry, your supply chain will seemingly never run dry. You can virtually shoot things over and over and over... [Zzzzz] until the end of time. Yay.
CoD 4 Life <3
Dragon's Dogma is a better game than the soul's series is.
I wish there was a sequel to it and Dark Souls 2 (that abomination of a game) NEVER came out. DkS2 was especially ruined by poor level design. FROM's 'B' team is more like a 'C' team...
In Dragon's Dogma:
-You can actually jump
-Faster classes (striders) can actually dash and MOVE FAST (WOW, MUCH SENSE)
-There are actually classes. Not just stat point allocations done for you in the beginning (wtf? Dark souls)
-The spells are more fleshed out and have ACTUAL effects... not just damage. Ice causes freezing (ground breaking I know). Spells overall are more satisfying visually.
-You can climb ANYthing you can get your hands on. Even monsters/giants (just like Shadow of the colossus). True world interaction.
Matter fact: DD feels like an upgrade to Souls games in general. Even the story makes more sense. Especially the ending-which-isnt-really-an-ending-but-more-like-the-game-just-begins-which-is-really-awesome-and-reminds-me-of-Symphony-of-the-Night.
Ok, Im done.
*Runs away singing and skipping*
I wish there was a sequel to it and Dark Souls 2 (that abomination of a game) NEVER came out. DkS2 was especially ruined by poor level design. FROM's 'B' team is more like a 'C' team...
In Dragon's Dogma:
-You can actually jump
-Faster classes (striders) can actually dash and MOVE FAST (WOW, MUCH SENSE)
-There are actually classes. Not just stat point allocations done for you in the beginning (wtf? Dark souls)
-The spells are more fleshed out and have ACTUAL effects... not just damage. Ice causes freezing (ground breaking I know). Spells overall are more satisfying visually.
-You can climb ANYthing you can get your hands on. Even monsters/giants (just like Shadow of the colossus). True world interaction.
Matter fact: DD feels like an upgrade to Souls games in general. Even the story makes more sense. Especially the ending-which-isnt-really-an-ending-but-more-like-the-game-just-begins-which-is-really-awesome-and-reminds-me-of-Symphony-of-the-Night.
Ok, Im done.
*Runs away singing and skipping*
Some Nobody
Junior Member
*shrugs* I don't even play FPSes, but your question could literally apply to any popular genre. And the answer is: Some people like what they like. You've got Ryu in your avatar. Street Fighter is a game that doesn't work for me--I can't get the motions down, and I can't pay attention to frames like that.
Most importantly? I've got friends who can literally play Street Fighter for hours. I can't fucking do it. Thirty minutes, maybe an hour, and I'm out. Cut something else on--preferably something with story. And yet, you need to do that (put in hours of work) to really, really be good at the game. I get that, but when I'm sitting there watch someone work on the button combinations for the same four or five moves like a robot, it boggles my mind.
To me it's not unique, but it's whatever. What's enjoyable to one person isn't going to be enjoyable to the next. Personally I never get tired of high fantasy games--I want bigger worlds, more races and classes, more fantastical spells and summons, ridiculously powerful swords with long histories, and lore that would take forever to get through. When people call those games generic, I roll my eyes. But again, not everything is for everybody.
The only thing I really, really find boring? This recent obsession people have with "new and unique gaming experiences". No offense (honest), it just sounds...corny. Like, I want new shit too, but when I see people talk about "there really hasn't been any unique changes in gaming since Mario 64" or whatever? I can't deal. At a certain point, it becomes about incremental changes rather than groundbreaking ones. Graphics are stressed because they're the easiest, but it's other things too--expansive open worlds. More realistic AI. Making games more immersive--these are changes that happen in increments rather than something that's just revolutionary.
Every form of media had to deal with it. Short of a visionary coming along (who by the way, wouldn't be constrained by publishers obsessed with FPS), we're not going to get too many more groundbreaking experiences.
The more I hear about Dragon's Dogma the more I wonder if I'm missing out on a real gem because I find the art design of the world to be one of the most boring things I've ever seen. Also, the fact that you're a mute create-a-character and don't have a party with real personalities detracts as well.
"Controversial gaming opinion"? Alright, let's go:
Tomokazu Fukushima is the true father of MGS series, and Hideo Kojima knows nothing about MGS plot!
Seriously, just look to his last games: MGS4, PW and GZ. All of these games were contradictory to the previous games, and their stories were meaningless. Also, Fukushima didn't write the stories behind them!
You're still not convinced? Alright, you have to know that the stories of MGS1/2/3/GB were written by Fukushima himself.. and those games were the best in the series.. Coincidence? Huh, I don't think so
Anyhow, I still believe that Kojima can give us a great game with excellent gameplay. I can't wait for the Phantom Pain.
Tomokazu Fukushima is the true father of MGS series, and Hideo Kojima knows nothing about MGS plot!
Seriously, just look to his last games: MGS4, PW and GZ. All of these games were contradictory to the previous games, and their stories were meaningless. Also, Fukushima didn't write the stories behind them!
You're still not convinced? Alright, you have to know that the stories of MGS1/2/3/GB were written by Fukushima himself.. and those games were the best in the series.. Coincidence? Huh, I don't think so
Anyhow, I still believe that Kojima can give us a great game with excellent gameplay. I can't wait for the Phantom Pain.
I have to run away :lol
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
This reminds me of the classic quote by some writer I read in the 80s: people say they want something new when what they really want is the same thing they had last time made to appear new.
I've found this is true. Because we want familiarity and a reliable experience - pepperoni pizza never goes out of style - while craving distraction and novelty. But people tend to complain about things they don't like - if you don't like FPS, you demand to know why everyone still likes FPS, didn't that go out of style yet.
Genuine stagnation seems to come not from established media being continually made, but too much near-identical iteration. The FPS genre was starting to get stale for a bit due to every single game being set in WWII and about the invasion of normandy, presented in the same way. Then it started to get stale again due to so many games trying to recreate the same slice of COD4.
Even fans of DD will be the first to say the environmental world design is on the generic side. I think the appeal of it comes from the game creating a sense that you're literally in an AD&D adventure module - it's practically the monster manual come to life. The story does get elaborate towards the end game. But mainly it's about the gameplay and sense of exploration.
Platinum games in a nutshell.
denshuu
Member
Monster Hunter's loot system is one of the worst loot systems in any game. Instead of tying your loot to the difficulty of what you've done to achieve it, it ties it to a random number generator. This isn't much different from how MMOs work, but unlike MMOs, you aren't running around environments killing trash mobs for hours on end. Instead, you're fighting the same mob. Over and over. Sleepwalking through a fight that's about as fun as watching paint dry your 20th time through it just so that you can roll a die at the end of a fight for whatever drop you need.
The arena mode, on the other hand, gets loot right. Shame the whole game doesn't use that system. It'd be a lot less of a bore.
The arena mode, on the other hand, gets loot right. Shame the whole game doesn't use that system. It'd be a lot less of a bore.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
Alan Wake's story is tons better than Heavy Rain's.
Final Fantasy VII should not be remade.
That's not controversial. That's just wrong.
edit. this train of thought reminds me of all the stories people make up in FF threads to exonerate the people they like and frame the ones they don't.
Final Fantasy VII should not be remade.
That's not controversial. That's just wrong.
edit. this train of thought reminds me of all the stories people make up in FF threads to exonerate the people they like and frame the ones they don't.