Yeah it's certainly done some pretty dark/heavy stuff, agreed. Still interesting to think what it could have been though. I mean, Aang's final plot itself was pretty much written as a result of of it being a kids show. You can tell there are times when the show is limited by this. Nick would also never touch a gay relationship either in this kind of show. Then again, I have no faith that if they DID do that, that they would handle that kind of plot well.
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Yeah it's certainly done some pretty dark/heavy stuff, agreed. Still interesting to think what it could have been though. I mean, Aang's final plot itself was pretty much written as a result of of it being a kids show. You can tell there are times when the show is limited by this. Nick would also never touch a gay relationship either in this kind of show. Then again, I have no faith that if they DID do that, that they would handle that kind of plot well.
m_shortpants
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Veelk would argue otherwise
Hah, yeah of course. Veelk always disagrees with me.
But even if I'm wrong there, surely you guys agree the show is sometimes limited by it being on a kids channel? No? Or am I in the minority here.
EDIT: guess so. Sigh.
Infinite Justice
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plus genocide, etc
m_shortpants
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Hah, yeah of course. Veelk always disagrees with me.
But even if I'm wrong there, surely you guys agree the show is sometimes limited by it being on a kids channel? No? Or am I in the minority here.
EDIT: guess so. Sigh.
I just think they would be more explicit with the violence in fights. People actually getting hit by ice spikes, or boulders to the face, etc.
I guess. I don't think the show would be stronger with more explicit violence. I just think the show could have more consequences sometimes if there was death (vs. skirting around it).
m_shortpants
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Well, that's kind of what I mean. If a character takes a gash to the arm or face in a fight and then starts bleeding, there's more tension.
Infinite Justice
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Hah, yeah of course. Veelk always disagrees with me.
But even if I'm wrong there, surely you guys agree the show is sometimes limited by it being on a kids channel? No? Or am I in the minority here.
I think it would be interesting but the show did stuff like that with a level of subtlety where if your looking for it you could find it and if not then it didn't matter.
And i think that's what caught a good chunk of the fans.
Plus if it gets all violent/serious/etc it might end up more to edgy/trying too hard territory to me.
Veelk would argue otherwise I suspect
*shrug*
I don't go in for the behind the scenes stuff much. Everything you love is like sausage: you don't want to know how it's made.
I do find it a bit cynical to think that the only reason Aang ended it hte way he did is because it's a kids show. I think the sanctity of life of even those you'd think inhuman is a good lesson. It's far too easy to demonize anything or even anyone you don't like and consider their lives worthless. I don't deny that the show in general would have more deaths occurring and stuff, but I like to think atleast Aang's way of peace would remain intact, as that is the core of the show.
Hah, yeah of course. Veelk always disagrees with me.
I disagree with everyone and don't want you to feel left out.
Eh...in some ways, definitely. The emotional impact of Jet's death was weakened by the ambiguity in which its presented. Some things just flat out don't make sense, like why the fire nation would go bend over backwards to keep waterbenders like Hama prisoner instead of just killing them.
But for the most part, I don't think the frequency of things like that occurring is high enough that Avatar would benefit greatly from being more R rated.
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Spring-Loaded
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I remember thinking the shot of Republic City from the end credits of the first (and second?) Korra season(s) looked a lot like future Gotham City in Batman Beyond's intro. I found this! someone made an "avatar beyond" intro and some parts are actually cool. Compare to the original
and isn't there someone here who loves wonder woman and korra?
and isn't there someone here who loves wonder woman and korra?
Wafflecakes
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The voice actor that they used for the air bender baddie is way overused in the series.
The voice is so familiar that it breaks my immersion every time he speaks.
The voice is so familiar that it breaks my immersion every time he speaks.
A BB movie is definitely one of the thing I'd love to see (or hell, just bring back BB in general, I'd be ecstatic over a cartoon). Young Justice being cancelled depressed me about 10 times more than it would have when I heard the rumor that it'd take 35 years in the future and they were planning to put BB in there, and I was really fucking depressed about it being cancelled in general. *sigh*
And I'm still upset that WB didn't respond to my request of putting me in charge of all their DC live action movies with a 900 million dollar budget. I promised them I'd beat Marvel at their own game and everything.
And I'm still upset that WB didn't respond to my request of putting me in charge of all their DC live action movies with a 900 million dollar budget. I promised them I'd beat Marvel at their own game and everything.
Discotheque
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it's henry rollins and he's never voiced for this series ever.
Wafflecakes
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You sure? Still seems extremely familiar.
Maybe I watched something else he voice acted, or maybe he just has a very generic voice...
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It's Henry Rollins first VA role in the series actually.
Phoenician_Viking
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It's just generic and montonous in my opinion. Like he's trying to pull a bad Steve Blum impression or something.
Maybe I need to watch the episodes again.
m_shortpants
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It just didn't sound very...fitting. It almost seemed like a dub to me, not sure why.
I've heard Steve Blum a million times but he did Amon really well.
m_shortpants
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It seems to me they aired them out of desperation and leaks. They may have not gone through whatever approvals needed to get them on those stores.
Shouta
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Caught up. So good. This is basically what we've all been wanting from another Avatar show. Perfect balance in screen time for all the characters, giving each of them their own thing to do with characters that they work well with, and giving them personal growth so that it works better when they come back as a group.
I really dug the stuff for Bolin and Mako in ep 3, I think that was the thing that was sorely needed in S1 and S2. They had a background but no motivations beyond being kind of there for the convenience of the plot. Giving this little bit could lead to more substantial stuff for them that aids the show.
I also like that there's a much more tangible goal for everyone and one they're all working towards. This helps focus the show much more. The big issue with the first two seasons is that there's so many things going on at the same time and that they were only tangentially related, it caused a lot of discord in the narrative and the actions of the cast itself.
I really dug the stuff for Bolin and Mako in ep 3, I think that was the thing that was sorely needed in S1 and S2. They had a background but no motivations beyond being kind of there for the convenience of the plot. Giving this little bit could lead to more substantial stuff for them that aids the show.
I also like that there's a much more tangible goal for everyone and one they're all working towards. This helps focus the show much more. The big issue with the first two seasons is that there's so many things going on at the same time and that they were only tangentially related, it caused a lot of discord in the narrative and the actions of the cast itself.
Lord_Byron28
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Yeah honestly if he didnt have those grey streaks in his hair I dont think he would sound quite as strange. His voice is just way too proper and young for how old and gritty he looks. He sounds like a clean 30 year old adult not a middle aged asian man who has spent ten years in a secret isolated prison having to ration rice out for 3 weeks at a time.
Prophet Steve
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Yeah, there was a bit of a delay previous book, but not this long, still waiting.
He got more than a rice bowl every 3 weeks, he just got it from the same people for 3 weeks in a row.
Lord_Byron28
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Oh makes much more sense. Thanks for the clarification. However my point still stands.
Even so you think they would have at least put it up on their own site
But yeah the leak must have really screwed up with whatever schedule Nick had in line for the season
Phoenician_Viking
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Zuko on a dragon was pretty boss. Asami was good in the fighting scene. Korra is acting better even though she lashed out at the queen. At least she is trying to connect to her spiritual side. Mako and Bolin getting more depth is good, i hope they don´t revert to their rolls in previous season. The villains look amazing.
unknownstranger
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Just watched the new episodes. Ok start but episode 3 was great.
Positives:
Nitpicks:
Better start than season 2.
Positives:
Bolin and Mako getting more backstory is great. Korra is still basically the same but at least it didn't feel weird at any point. Zuko appearing is great. I wouldn't have been against Roku's voice actor being his. Asami having a decent role so far is nice.
Nitpicks:
The 3D animations stood out pretty badly. All of the new villains voices sound a bit off except the fire bender which I haven't seen. Why did the new Airbender villian have an insane prison when he didn't have any bending to break out it before? Kai basically being a black Aang seems really weird. Why is Kai the only new Airbender to have full control of his powers already? Why would someone sell a kid a mansion? How did Tonraq get to the Northern Watertribe so fast? I was a little disappointed they didn't show the zoo Aang built when they flew over the land just before Ba Sing Sei.
Better start than season 2.
Zaheed is probably cunning/dangerous enough to break out of any regular prison
Did you forget the Spirit Portals are still open?
Because the Earth Queen hates animals maybe? I don't think she'd like a Zoo to be the first thing everyone sees of Ba Sing Se. Also, the economy sucks and most people are poor beyond belief. Feeding animals is expensive, I don't think the Zoo owner could afford it anymore. And even if he tried to start charging for entrance - no one would be able to afford spending money for luxuries like a visit to the Zoo anyways.
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You mean rent a really nice hotel room?
Looks like Bestbuy will have Book 2 of Korra for $20 when it releases this Tuesday
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/legend-...p?id=3185780&skuId=6159126&st=Korra&lp=1&cp=1
Amazon seems to have price matched them
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F8PTBZC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'll probably pick it up
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/legend-...p?id=3185780&skuId=6159126&st=Korra&lp=1&cp=1
Amazon seems to have price matched them
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F8PTBZC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'll probably pick it up
Saw this thread and it prompted me to go back and finally watch Book 2. Book 1 was alright but it didn't do much for me at the time and after I saw so much hate for Book 2 I just didn't feel like continuing.
I just finished the "Beginnings" two parter and I'm glad I watched this season just for these two episodes alone, they were just amazing. It sounds like Book 3 is an improvement on 2 overall so I'm looking forward to catching up.
I just finished the "Beginnings" two parter and I'm glad I watched this season just for these two episodes alone, they were just amazing. It sounds like Book 3 is an improvement on 2 overall so I'm looking forward to catching up.
Yeah everyone pretty much agrees that Beginnings was amazing and any Avatar fan should watch it even if they haven't seen Korra
Dreadnought
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For some reason Book 1 and 2 were taken off itunes. Still no Book 3 on itunes which is odd considering they uploaded the newest episodes each time they came out for Book 2.
Yeah, but all of them sound MUCH better on a re-watch.
Very minor spoiler for the leaks:
after he shaves his head, I bet the mismatch will not be as pronounced.
Come to think of it, the first 2 episodes are much better after a re-watch:
Episode 1: A-
Episode 2: B+
Episode 3: B-
Yeah, I actually think the last episode became worst. The first half is mostly dull setup and the second half moves by too quickly and expects allowances it has not earned.
General Notes:
- Zaheer: I think we will learn a lot more about him and his goals. His quick adaptation will then seem more reasonable. As previously the only non-bender in a group of super-benders, I can only speculate as to his physical and mental prowess, but they must have been formidable.
-Bumi: I REALLY hate that he was not the badass non-bender I originally expected, but him being an airbender is not entirely terrible.
-Asami: I like what they are doing with her. I know they are going to half-ass it, but I very much appreciate the attempt to bring her closer to Korra. Also, she may yet be the baddass non-bender on the team.
-Korra: Improvement without stripping her identity. I do not think they need to course correct any more. This is the character that I wanted. As for her use of the Avatar State, I disagree that it is a retcon. The explanation we were originally given about the state always rang false; there was always a significant power boost and personality shift that were never satisfactorily explained.
-Tenzin: Awesome with his family, shitty most other times. I like it. I think making Aang's family dysfunctional people is great. Subverting our expectations of who the original team Avatar became as well as how that affected their offspring is a through-line that I hope continues to get explored. I really wished he would stop trying to rebuild the air nomads though. It is not happening. Nor should it.
-The World: I find it very interesting that bending continues to retard progress. Republic City is the only place that seems to be making significant strides.
Predictions:
-Republic City learns symbiosis.
-Earth Queen makes an attempt to reclaim Republic City, gets rebuffed, then dethroned.
-Zaheer knew Aang and tried to learn from him.
-The Anti-Krew do not actually want to kill Korra. Their motivations are not completely revealed.
-Azula and Toph will appear before the end of Book 4.
-The previous Avatars will return, but not in an obvious way.
-We find out who Lin's father is. And it is JUICY!!!
In my opinion, this season started out very strong. I get the feeling that great things are coming (some good battles hopefully) and that they know where they are going. Wich are things I did not feel in season 2.
All in all, the story as well as the fact that they went back to Ba Sing Se, made me feel like I was watching Avatar again. Which is a good thing.
All in all, the story as well as the fact that they went back to Ba Sing Se, made me feel like I was watching Avatar again. Which is a good thing.
So I'm going to blindpost my impressions about season 2, if that's disattracting, just send me a pm.
S2 - Episode 01
S2 - Episode 02
S2 - Episode 03
S2 - Episode 01
Is it just me, has the animation gotten a bit worse? Could just be me, though.
The show is still funny. Bolins scenes really crack me up. Although I find it weird that he is now getting stealth shipped with Asami.
What I'm really sceptic off are Unalaq and Tonraq. They could try to fool me on purpose, but I have the feeling that Unalaq is evil. Everything is just too convinient for him and he wants Korra so hard to be his disciple.
Also: why is Korra so stuborn. I swear, she is worse than in season 2.
The show is still funny. Bolins scenes really crack me up. Although I find it weird that he is now getting stealth shipped with Asami.
What I'm really sceptic off are Unalaq and Tonraq. They could try to fool me on purpose, but I have the feeling that Unalaq is evil. Everything is just too convinient for him and he wants Korra so hard to be his disciple.
Also: why is Korra so stuborn. I swear, she is worse than in season 2.
S2 - Episode 02
I really like the stoic twins, would love to if Bolin came really together with her, but as things stand I think he will be thrown together with Asami. Apropos Bolin. I really like his joke character, but not all the time. Why is he so useless right now.
Oh and Unalaq is kind of evil, what a surpsrise. Or at least, say, antagonistic.
Oh and Unalaq is kind of evil, what a surpsrise. Or at least, say, antagonistic.
S2 - Episode 03
Aang family vacation is hillarious. I like the three siblings very much and how the interact with each other. Cracking jokes at each other, critizing each other in a very calm manner, calling out the obvious without holding back.
I laughed at Varrick's cookie genocide. That guy is funny.
Also: Mako could do something. His role now seems to be being Korra's confused boyfriend.
Why is Unalaq so unneccessary evil? He literally sits in the middle of the day in a dark palace on the throne with nothing to do but to play King Lear, being as condescending as possible to the southeners. Stupid Korra, stupid Korra for being so stubborn on Unalaqs side.
But the short fight in the palace looked amazing. It's so much better seeing humans fighting each other than heartless.
I laughed at Varrick's cookie genocide. That guy is funny.
Also: Mako could do something. His role now seems to be being Korra's confused boyfriend.
Why is Unalaq so unneccessary evil? He literally sits in the middle of the day in a dark palace on the throne with nothing to do but to play King Lear, being as condescending as possible to the southeners. Stupid Korra, stupid Korra for being so stubborn on Unalaqs side.
But the short fight in the palace looked amazing. It's so much better seeing humans fighting each other than heartless.
HassanJamal
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The 3 eps were a bit dull and got way more interesting once the team kill the Avatar was introduced. Highlights so far were Zuko's lil chat in the elevator and Zaher's team skills. I find it strange how there weren't that much spirits once Korra and her gang were traveling around.
Oh and that waterbender on Zaher's team, on my re-watch and just noticed she has no arms. Damn.
Oh and that waterbender on Zaher's team, on my re-watch and just noticed she has no arms. Damn.
Regarding the animation for Book 2 they had a new studio come in to do it with less than desired results
The original animation studio (Studio Mir) for Book 1 weren't able to come back for Book 2 so they got Studio Pierrot (which you may recognise them from Bleach and Naruto) to do Book 2 for them
Don't be too alarmed as Studio Mir comes back for episodes 7, 8, and 10 - 14
RPG_Fanatic
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Well the first three episodes of Season 3 were much better than season 2, back up to Season 1 quality.
Bolin is likable, and funny again. Tenzin and his family are still awesome. Mako is still Mako. Asami is still a good character. Her scenes with Korra were nice.
Not sure how I feel about airbenders popping out everywhere because of Harmonic convergence. It is also weird the villain leader is already an expert airbender. The bending of the villains themselves are impressive, but I need more context about their past before I comment more on them.
Poor Tenzin, all excited about reviving the Air Nomad culture, he didn't think about whether people would want to leave there old life behind.
The Earth Queen is certainly something. I'm curious to see how the whole capturing air benders is going to play out.
Bolin is likable, and funny again. Tenzin and his family are still awesome. Mako is still Mako. Asami is still a good character. Her scenes with Korra were nice.
Not sure how I feel about airbenders popping out everywhere because of Harmonic convergence. It is also weird the villain leader is already an expert airbender. The bending of the villains themselves are impressive, but I need more context about their past before I comment more on them.
Poor Tenzin, all excited about reviving the Air Nomad culture, he didn't think about whether people would want to leave there old life behind.
The Earth Queen is certainly something. I'm curious to see how the whole capturing air benders is going to play out.
El Pescado
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What. No no no no no! That's how I watch Korra and TMNT!
S2 - Episode 04
S2 - Episode 05
S2 - Episode 06
S2 - Episode 07
S2 - Episode 08
Also I somehow can't stop watching now. Welp, there goes my sunday. I probably will finish the first season today.
Bonlin, why are you so useless in this season! The only thing that saves you, is Eska. I really love their interaction.
Those bisons, SO CUTE, I WANT TO PET THEM. Gotta write them on my wishlist for Santa this year.
And seriously, what is wrong with Korra. Threathning to kill the judge and her first idea being to bust her father out of jail as if that's would do anything good, than harassing the judge. And somehow that leads conviniently to the right thing. I starting to see why people didn't like this season so much.
Somehow the mainstuff is really good, but the sidestuff works very well. Varrick is super funny, I love Eska and Bolins interaction, the story of Tensen and his siblings (and his childrens as well) is engaging and the fight scenes are still great.
Those bisons, SO CUTE, I WANT TO PET THEM. Gotta write them on my wishlist for Santa this year.
And seriously, what is wrong with Korra. Threathning to kill the judge and her first idea being to bust her father out of jail as if that's would do anything good, than harassing the judge. And somehow that leads conviniently to the right thing. I starting to see why people didn't like this season so much.
Somehow the mainstuff is really good, but the sidestuff works very well. Varrick is super funny, I love Eska and Bolins interaction, the story of Tensen and his siblings (and his childrens as well) is engaging and the fight scenes are still great.
S2 - Episode 05
I really like Eska. She seems to genuinly like Bolin. Since she said that to her father, that she is going after Korra because she has heir "husband", not her "Slave" or "amusement", her husband. She is probably very fond of him and just don't know how to act properly.
Why has Korra lead a protest marsh? The north clearly invaded the south without agression. The UN should at least send some observers.
The culturual center were certainly not the northerns. It was either Varrick or firenation extremists that wan't to weaken the watertribe to takeover or something. But it's most likely Varrick he looked way too smug in the meeting and while he is played as a joke, he was the driving force behind the rebellion and was smart enough to stay out of the actual attack on the palace.
I also I can see where they're going for with the political stuff, but somehow it feels weird.
Why has Korra lead a protest marsh? The north clearly invaded the south without agression. The UN should at least send some observers.
The culturual center were certainly not the northerns. It was either Varrick or firenation extremists that wan't to weaken the watertribe to takeover or something. But it's most likely Varrick he looked way too smug in the meeting and while he is played as a joke, he was the driving force behind the rebellion and was smart enough to stay out of the actual attack on the palace.
I also I can see where they're going for with the political stuff, but somehow it feels weird.
S2 - Episode 06
Bolins sidestory feels ... off and unnecessary, even if some parts of it conviniently tie in to the story. He was better when he was around Eska. At least Mako is a character again.
Oh and sure, let's make a deal with the mafia, that will work out great. Even without doublecrossing that would have had some bigger repercussions. There have to be mercenaries in this world the could've hired.
Varrick is a great villain. He is acting like a Cuckoolander, while pulling strings, so people underestimate him. Also he is showing a certain level of respect and a friendly face to everyone, even his subordiantes, save for his assisstant, but she seems to enjoy it. Reminds me a bit of the assisstant in Gundam Build Fighters.
Oh and sure, let's make a deal with the mafia, that will work out great. Even without doublecrossing that would have had some bigger repercussions. There have to be mercenaries in this world the could've hired.
Varrick is a great villain. He is acting like a Cuckoolander, while pulling strings, so people underestimate him. Also he is showing a certain level of respect and a friendly face to everyone, even his subordiantes, save for his assisstant, but she seems to enjoy it. Reminds me a bit of the assisstant in Gundam Build Fighters.
S2 - Episode 07
Man, I wanted to make a cut after this episde, but it's part 1 of the episode you guys talked about. So, I gonna watch episode 08 too, before I stop.
The first avatar, huh. I always wondered how this super natural being (even for inworld standard) came into the world. I like the different artstyle.
Stinky's was very nice, even if he is a bit too hotheaded. I hope that we get Avatar show after Korra where we get some Avatar who thinks a bit further. Some collected, calculating type like Shiro in Log Horizon.
The first avatar, huh. I always wondered how this super natural being (even for inworld standard) came into the world. I like the different artstyle.
Stinky's was very nice, even if he is a bit too hotheaded. I hope that we get Avatar show after Korra where we get some Avatar who thinks a bit further. Some collected, calculating type like Shiro in Log Horizon.
S2 - Episode 08
I don't know I like the good vs evil approach with Raava her counterpart. There were so far no really evil. Only misled and selfish people.
For that matter I am not appealed of humans fighting mindless spirts. That feels so generic.
But I felt really sad when he failed to stop hsi friends from killing each other and when he lied there defeated on the battlefield. Humanity really came a long way since those times until the United Nations.
For that matter I am not appealed of humans fighting mindless spirts. That feels so generic.
But I felt really sad when he failed to stop hsi friends from killing each other and when he lied there defeated on the battlefield. Humanity really came a long way since those times until the United Nations.
Also I somehow can't stop watching now. Welp, there goes my sunday. I probably will finish the first season today.
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