Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING
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Book 1 is a masterpiece compared to Book 2. So prepare for the first half to be an incoherent mess. Prepare for characters to be obnoxious and to have taken 10 steps back from Book 1 (progress wise). Beginnings 1 & 2 (Episodes 7 & 8) are awesome. Then the back half of episodes going into the finale are pretty good (or at least they aren't awful). Then the finale is a complete mess. I'd gather most would say it's 50/50. But for me, it's more like 60% is bad.
WrenchNinja
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I guess the Earth Queen is supposed to be the exact opposite of the Earth King. She has more direct control over the kingdom, less passive, hates animals, is not nice at all. Unlike the Earth King, she isn't being manipulated by the Dai Li.
The result is basically the same though. Before the Earth King got his shit together, the City was pretty much run into the ground (with the ghettos and over taxation). There was a big separation of class. It might as well have been the same. Instead of the Dai Li and the King's Right hand man running things, it's the Queen herself.
WrenchNinja
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Yeah, essentially the city seems the same. I'm curious how she ended up this way. Did the Earth King feel wronged by Aang and Zuko or is that just her projecting her own feelings?
I suppose going by ATLA, the Earth King probably wouldn't have been a good father. I thought him living out his life as a commoner during book 3 would help him right the wrongs Long Fei had conducted on the kingdom.
The comics sort of allude to this. Or rather, the the plot that is being set up in the comics MAKES SENSE how it eventually ends up in a way the Queen is angry.
Comic Spoilers: (And I have no idea if they will cover this in the animation, or if they expect you have to have read it)
Zuko and Aang were originally going to force out fire nation families that had taken over other territory and make them go back to the fire nation. But they realized fire nation + earth nation families now existed, where they were inter-marrying. So Aang + Zukos original plan to give back all land taken from the Earth Kingdom didn't go smoothly as families had already been established. It was originally called the "Harmony Restoration Movement" where all Fire Nation colonies would be disbanded. SO MY GUESS is, the Queen wasn't happy about them losing land (which included Republic City). She felt that Aang and Zuko had taken advantage of her father by not rolling back the colonies and lands that the Fire Nation occupied during Ozai's reign.
One of the first Promises Zuko makes as emperor, is to roll back all the Fire Nation occupation. But he ends up going back on this promise, as he thinks it's better for the colonies to live together and inter-mix, making a new culture and people (especially since in some cases, they already did this).
One of the first Promises Zuko makes as emperor, is to roll back all the Fire Nation occupation. But he ends up going back on this promise, as he thinks it's better for the colonies to live together and inter-mix, making a new culture and people (especially since in some cases, they already did this).
OldAsUrSock
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They really need to work on the pacing. So much things could have happened while traveling to find that thief kid and the guy trying to get his homies.
Book 3 spoilers:
If they've brought Zuko back, I hope we get to see the current fire nation royalty (like the Fire Nation queen). More of Iroh Jr. would be nice because so far he seems like a pretty chill character but just needs more screen time and development. Also, I love Dante Basco's voice.
I wonder if Book 4 will be Fire Nation focused, since Book 1 was Republic City, Book 2 was Water Nation/Spirit World, Book 3 is Earth Kingdom.
I guess they haven't done Air (technically Book 1 was about the element), but it's kind of been present in all the books (specifically this season now), since there isn't an Air Nation.
Would absolutely love them to have Book 4 take place in the Fire Nation, just to see how much its changed in those 70 years
I hope there are plenty of statues dedicated to Iroh there
And it would make sense as you said in keeping theme with showing off a new location every Book so far
Yeah, Book 1 is Air, Book 2 is Water, Book 3 is Earth, and Book 4 being Fire would make sense. (And it's the avatar cycle, holla)
A good possible plot for Book 4 could focus on a Fire Nation Supremacist organization that was founded by disillusioned Fire Nation veterans after the war and have been working from the shadows ever since.
For example, it could be that the person that killed Mako and Bolin's parents targeted them specifically because they were an interracial couple. Asami's mother was killed by a member of the Agni Kai Triad which consists solely of firebenders. It wouldn't be too far-fetched that they would be affiliated with such a hate group. (Perhaps they targeted the Sato estate because Hiroshi refused to support the Fire Nation Supremacists financially.)
So this would mean that Asami, Mako, and Bolin would all have deep personal reasons for trying to take down this organization.
/fanfiction
El Pescado
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Is there an active official Twitter channel for this show? I want to contact someone about everything disappearing from iTunes, but I can only find unofficial and joke accounts.
Infinite Justice
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Sorry, I thought that nobody really reads the thread about thte third season without knowing season two, but yeah, I shoul've thought more.
Pierrot? Man, that explains a lot. It's quite sad, I never thought much of them, but this seasons Soredemo looked quite good, especially for Pierrot. The animation became indeed better as the series went along. Hopefully they keep them for the next season.
S2 - Episode 09
Man, Unaloq is so evil, I get itchy. Same goes for the obvious corrupt policeman that are after Mako. And Tensen is so strongheaded. Poor Genora.
Man, the spirit world sure look fantastic and lil furry food is so adorable. Even if lil Korra is adorable, too. Now I want a little episode about her childhood.
My god, Iroh. *__*
Genora is so smart and precious and a Korra that is not angry and fast to judge is pleasant.
This episode was great. It's the first I could fully embrace and enjoy without bickering.
My god, Iroh. *__*
Genora is so smart and precious and a Korra that is not angry and fast to judge is pleasant.
This episode was great. It's the first I could fully embrace and enjoy without bickering.
S2 - Episode 11
I smiled at the strange propaganda movie, but Bolins sideplot really bored me. Good that he finally good useful again. And the unision with the movie in the background was hillarious.
But I was pretty displaced by the romance thing. I hate that in anime and I gonna hate it here. That stuff is just unneccessary, urgh.
But I was pretty displaced by the romance thing. I hate that in anime and I gonna hate it here. That stuff is just unneccessary, urgh.
S2 - Episode 12
Nice to see Bumi in action, he is a tough one. But I still can't take the antagonists seriously. I mean, one of them is literally evil. That... is somewhat weak. But the action in this episode was nice. Gotta love when people really use their powers in all ways they can.
S2 - Episode 13
I love the fungus, the fungus is hillarious.
Dawwww, the thing between Bolin and Eska was so sweet. I doubted the show and thought they would push Asami and him together, but this is actually really nice. I hope that Eska travels with Team Avatar next season.
I don't know how Tenzin was destoying the fog by finding himself. Zhao definitly believed in himself and that didn't help him. Also it is really not a very good prison if it's that easy to escape.
Oh and evil being just gets bigger and meaner. I really don't like that antagonist. It would've been great if that ritual would never worked and everything was a ploy of Varrick for some greater financial goal. Wouldn't that be great? A simple man who doesen't seem very dangerous playing the benders and even ancient gods for profit.
Dawwww, the thing between Bolin and Eska was so sweet. I doubted the show and thought they would push Asami and him together, but this is actually really nice. I hope that Eska travels with Team Avatar next season.
I don't know how Tenzin was destoying the fog by finding himself. Zhao definitly believed in himself and that didn't help him. Also it is really not a very good prison if it's that easy to escape.
Oh and evil being just gets bigger and meaner. I really don't like that antagonist. It would've been great if that ritual would never worked and everything was a ploy of Varrick for some greater financial goal. Wouldn't that be great? A simple man who doesen't seem very dangerous playing the benders and even ancient gods for profit.
S2 - Episode 14 [END]
Korra Manhattan fighting some Persona enemy by them both shooting Laserbeams from their chest at each other. Cool.
Although they have to work a bit on that giant fighting, I just didn't feel the size and heavyness.
Also more Eska was nice.
The final episode cleaned up nicely. With Mako telling the truth, the two of them properly breaking up, Tenzin don't telling Korra what to do, Korra make a decision and actually a huge change in the world with the gates to the spirit world open. This is a great set-up for the next season.
Although they have to work a bit on that giant fighting, I just didn't feel the size and heavyness.
Also more Eska was nice.
The final episode cleaned up nicely. With Mako telling the truth, the two of them properly breaking up, Tenzin don't telling Korra what to do, Korra make a decision and actually a huge change in the world with the gates to the spirit world open. This is a great set-up for the next season.
Conlusion
It was not as bad as I thought I would be, but I can see why people were displeased by it. The main story just wouldn't work for me. The support cast saved this show this time. Genora was super sweet and enjoyable to watch, Tenzins in line coming with himself and his family, Varrick and Eska entertained me greatly. I'm looking forward to the improvements of season 3.
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you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
I actually enjoyed the new eps. I know this a kids show and korra has to be a good guy but sometimes I wish they would let her act a fool.she Should have ripped the queen and president new assholes.
Oh and how is zuko still alive ? How old is he supposed to be ? Katara too for that matter?
Oh and how is zuko still alive ? How old is he supposed to be ? Katara too for that matter?
Thatonemoor
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Wait why a green outline? That goes against the color scheme of the fire nation.
Because I am a mark who likes old man wizards
He is almost wizard enough... Almost.... , then he will have the fucking hand lighting .
So Hype. AND HE RIDES ON A DRAGON. No Screw the green outline, just make the robe longer and let him shoot different colored flames.
Well the next Avatar is born pretty much immediately after the previous, and Aang was in his 60's when he died, and Zuko was around 5 years older than Aang, so adding Korra's age onto Aang's, Zuko's in his 80's.
I think they're in their 80s.
Studio Mir are actually back now and are doing all the episodes for Book 3 and 4
Spoiler tags for what? We're allowed to freely discuss episodes after they air without the need of tags
Infinite Justice
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they got leaked for a while now and an ongoing theory is that they had some effect on the season suddenly premiering without much buildup.
yeah Nick Mexico accidently uploaded episodes 3 - 6 on their site
so of course some people spotted it and quickly ripped the episodes before they were taken down by nick
Infinite Justice
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subs are out anyways.
I speak Spanish too, but tbh I'd rather wait for the English dub and HD quality
Oh, wow, I forgot about that haha.
Yeah, I'm only watching the 4th episode. It would really suck waiting a month for a new episode haha.
The Spanish dub is pretty good though, imo.
Better start writing
Watch the actual 4th season be worse than this
I guess I'll take those as compliments?
I won't comment on specifics, but episodes 4-6 have me even more excited about the rest of the season. There is a definite issue with
, but at this point I can live with that.
Really excited about seeing them again when they air on Nick.
adding even more characters to the mix and Lin disappearing for the last two
Really excited about seeing them again when they air on Nick.
Episode 4 & 5 of Legend of Korra will premiere on July 11th in a one hour special.
https://twitter.com/NickelodeonTV/status/483314663254654976
https://twitter.com/NickelodeonTV/status/483314663254654976
Unspeakable Evil
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Really gonna blow through this season. Not that I mind
Episode 4 & 5 of Legend of Korra will premiere on July 11th in a one hour special.
https://twitter.com/NickelodeonTV/status/483314663254654976
Wtf
Really gonna blow through this season. Not that I mind
Gives more weight to the whole theory about them wanting to get past all the episodes already leaked. I'm guessing the following week we'll get episode 6 and 7 before settling in for weekly episodes till a two part finale.
It even lets them finish up the series before Labor Day in the US.
And_Gignac
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I want a Vaatu powered Amon returns as the villan of S4.
I can't stop feeling angry at how Nick managed Korra. The build up for a S4 confrontation with Amon would have been amazing since he was a way way better villan than Ozai.
I can't stop feeling angry at how Nick managed Korra. The build up for a S4 confrontation with Amon would have been amazing since he was a way way better villan than Ozai.
Unspeakable Evil
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Remember those Amon is some sort of Anti-avater theories. Good times good times
Amon was Aang theory was the best.
Unspeakable Evil
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Hahahaha that was my favorite. Someone even made a fake screencap
Those theories were fun to think about. Too bad about the real reveal :/
Freezasaurus
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AAAAHHHHH!!! Totally forgot about the premiere... Is there anyway I can watch it online?
Amon was a conceptual goldmine of a character, but it all fell apart when it was revealed that his motivation was entirely based off fulfilling a revenge fantasy for a father that he hated. It isn't to say that would have made a bad villain motivation, on it's own, but whether an idea works is often dependent on where you place it. The equalist regime was promised to have been a political and social conflict that tested Korra's self-centered notions of how the avatar is suppose to be a superhero that kick's bad guy asses as opposed to a peaceful arbiter for the people to keep balance.
It just tried to alter the entire momentum of the story for no reason. This entire time, Amon was building up this huge regime and taking over the city, but it was all on a false pretense. And while the Avatar had a vested interest in trying to balance the needs of the nonbenders with the benders, what investment did Korra have with Noatak's daddy issues? She didn't even find out about them until the end of the season, but think about this: aside from gaining the information that he's a bender and general human sympathy any normal person would feel, what was she supposed to feel about Tarrlok's story? Noatak's conflict with her had several degrees of seperatation to her. Noatak is really mad at Yakone, so he tries to get back at him by defeating Aang, who is dead instead he goes after Korra.
Amon was compelling because his ideals were in immediate (but very complex and interesting) conflict with Korra's duties. Noatak is just an idiot displacing his rage at his father at the wrong person with Korra being the avatar being entirely irrelevent to the situation. She has no vested interest in Noatak as a person, he's just an insane guy attacking her for no reason. If Noatak had displaced his rage at Tenzin, the entire conflict would have played out in the same basic way. It could have been literally be anyone at all. Korra's value as the avatar had been completely disregarded by the situation, which stopped the equalist conflict's momentum dead in it's tracks. The equalists just no longer mattered, so Korra's capacity as the avatar no longer mattered. Noatak's conflict would have been better served if he was just a random one off villain for an episode, or atleast as the villain of season 2 since atleast by that point, we'd have gotten to care about Korra as a person more.
It's like everytime I think of the last two seasons, I think of new ways to hate them
It just tried to alter the entire momentum of the story for no reason. This entire time, Amon was building up this huge regime and taking over the city, but it was all on a false pretense. And while the Avatar had a vested interest in trying to balance the needs of the nonbenders with the benders, what investment did Korra have with Noatak's daddy issues? She didn't even find out about them until the end of the season, but think about this: aside from gaining the information that he's a bender and general human sympathy any normal person would feel, what was she supposed to feel about Tarrlok's story? Noatak's conflict with her had several degrees of seperatation to her. Noatak is really mad at Yakone, so he tries to get back at him by defeating Aang, who is dead instead he goes after Korra.
Amon was compelling because his ideals were in immediate (but very complex and interesting) conflict with Korra's duties. Noatak is just an idiot displacing his rage at his father at the wrong person with Korra being the avatar being entirely irrelevent to the situation. She has no vested interest in Noatak as a person, he's just an insane guy attacking her for no reason. If Noatak had displaced his rage at Tenzin, the entire conflict would have played out in the same basic way. It could have been literally be anyone at all. Korra's value as the avatar had been completely disregarded by the situation, which stopped the equalist conflict's momentum dead in it's tracks. The equalists just no longer mattered, so Korra's capacity as the avatar no longer mattered. Noatak's conflict would have been better served if he was just a random one off villain for an episode, or atleast as the villain of season 2 since atleast by that point, we'd have gotten to care about Korra as a person more.
It's like everytime I think of the last two seasons, I think of new ways to hate them
And_Gignac
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Amon created himself an ideology based on his experiences with his father. That doesn't undermine his ideology at all, it humanizes him. Amon is the best villian to ever grace the Avatar world IMO.
All of the villains in TLA were one dimensional evil doers without reason behind them other than "muahah I am evil let's conquer the world". And alas, let's not even begin with Unalaq.
All of the villains in TLA were one dimensional evil doers without reason behind them other than "muahah I am evil let's conquer the world". And alas, let's not even begin with Unalaq.
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