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True, but Earthbound 64 wasn't going to feature Ness, so that doesn't really make him any more relevant.
Still makes Mother (and, by association, Ness) more relevant than Metroid/Samus.
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Still makes Mother (and, by association, Ness) more relevant than Metroid/Samus.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Only in certain and somewhat arbitrary ways. I'd still say Samus was far more relevant all around though. She was the star of three games that all sold better than Ness's one. Earthbound was technically more recently released than Super Metroid, but not by so much that the you could argue the character or game were more well known than Samus/Metroid given the divide in sales and the much longer lifespan of the character. Having a game stuck in development hell that doesn't even feature the character doesn't change all that much.
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Not in Japan. Metroid has always been a niche title over there, while the Mother franchise was pretty successful.
Nope! Earthbound was released a bit after Super Metroid.
Nobody knew about Prime or Fusion back then though.
And like I said, the Mother series had no presence in Europe therefore Metroid was technically more universally relevant.
JediLink
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I'd say that Shiek's is the best. Not only is it very low to the ground, but her down tilt and down smash are both very good, and she's also heavier so she can crouch cancel at higher percents.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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The divide between Super Metroid and Earthbound wasn't that big in Japan though. Like .7m vs .8m. And the original Metroid sold quite a bit more. And outside of Japan there's no contest.
I'm not really sure how this is an argument. Much more sales and three times as many appearances isn't really topped by a game trapped in development hell that doesn't even feature the character and like a 5 month difference in releases.
Besides, which of the two was 1) one of the original four from the prototype build 2) was featured prominently on the packaging, all promotional material, and the opening sequence and 3) was part of the core roster? Because it's not Ness.
Methinks Sakurai agrees.
inb4luigiwasnteither
I know it's funny as hell, but didn't those 4 things end up being the main villains of that mode?Starfy fans were cool. Honestly, most fans going for unrepresented franchises were cool.
I just lurked back then.
EDIT: I forgot the best part of pre-Brawl speculation, the clouds!
imabeast78
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Compiled highlights from the Smash Invitational for a quicker viewing experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwkp5cZop4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwkp5cZop4
Yeah, the clouds were right. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?
Actually, Sami is probably in the top 5 most likely Advance Wars reps, along with Andy and Max, or Will and Brenner.
Clouds were right for #TeamFake as well. Never doubt the clouds!
As annoying as it is people often ignore Europe in these discussions unless it's about Europe getting something that America didn't.
Saddens me that we are never going to get Eggman in a Smash game
I hope they have a cool AT/trophy of himStarfy fans were cool. Honestly, most fans going for unrepresented franchises were cool.
I just lurked back then.
EDIT: I forgot the best part of pre-Brawl speculation, the clouds!
I still don't get this.
The clouds obviously reference some of the villains of the mode, what's wrong with it?
The only funny part is that people thought Ridley was going to be playable because of this, but the clouds clearly are showing those characters.
NeonZ
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True, but Earthbound 64 wasn't going to feature Ness, so that doesn't really make him any more relevant.
http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/corner/9888/Earthbound64.html
There were shots of Ness in Earthbound 64's marketing. Although he apparently was just used as a placeholder before they decided the design of the new main characters and would never be in the final game even if we had gotten that version of Mother 3.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140704/whf/index.html
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140704/whf/index.html
Captain Toad dreaming about joining Smash Bros.
There's still a chance...Peach has custom moves too, doesn't she?
She'll probably have Toadsworth and Toadette instead, with a different effect (betting my balls it's going to be freeze/put to sleep/fire)
But Little Mac!
In some ways he would be another little Mac if based on Super Mario Bros 2/3D World stats; a quick runner with a bad jump. Guess they'd have to give him the quickest grab in the game as well.
MagiusNecros
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Captain Toad to become Peach Move variation. Wah wah
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HawthorneKitty
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The inability to jump s his trademark ability though.
Benzychenz
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Peach has an army of Toads to do her bidding. When one dies it is easily replaced.
Little Mac is a boxer, it's against the rules to jump. He never needs to jump in any of his games. Captain Toad, on the other hand, could literally solve 99% of his problems if he could jump. He may be an assist trophy though.
Kirby <3
Pic of the day. The Mii Gunner's side smash attack may have the farthest reach of all the side smashes as should be expected from a firearms expert!! Looks like the attack missed this time, though.
Haha remind me of Princess Bubblegum in Adventure Time.
twilitesparklemotion
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WONDER RED
Neoriceisgood
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Greninja's voice acting is something else.
ryanofcall
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afaik he's like the Yoshi's. So any Toad may decide to leave Peaches Castle to be an adventurer/captain.
powerdrain
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I don't like it when people shoot down character suggestions, but I find it hilarious you would dismiss K. Rool so to speak, and suggest a minor character like Wart in the same breath.
He needs to make another mainline appearance or at the very least Mario Kart first. Baby steps.
NeonZ
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Captain Toad is a specific npc character from Galaxy 1 and 2 though. His playable appearance in 3d World wasn't his first one.
The generic "Toad" in the games themselves seems to be a generic representation of the Toads, rather than a specific character though, while Yoshi sometimes is just a generic and other times seems to specifically reference a certain Yoshi that already knew Mario from before.
Hi guys I'm back! Was really busy last week so I couldn't post much. Super excited about alt costumes. The rest of the posts last week were OK, too. Hopefully we'll get Wario or Ice Climbers this month. 
Interesting that gunner's side smash is that! I was totally sure that'd be a side special.
Interesting that gunner's side smash is that! I was totally sure that'd be a side special.
Baron von Loathsome
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Aww shit, Kupa, it's been years.
Pic of the day. The Mii Gunner's side smash attack may have the farthest reach of all the side smashes as should be expected from a firearms expert!! Looks like the attack missed this time, though.
Absurd range for a side smash.
Mii top tier confirmed
It's barely been 6 months since 3D world launched...
Any spinoffs that have come out since were in primary development before 3D World came out.
Pic of the day. The Mii Gunner's side smash attack may have the farthest reach of all the side smashes as should be expected from a firearms expert!! Looks like the attack missed this time, though.
How did we know this would happen lol.
Oh well happy birthday to you as well brospeh and thanks for the wishes peeps!
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