^^Just tweeted, him and Bailey Jay at the Compound. Not exactly the walking wounded there.
Oh great now I hate him AND I'm jealous of him.
Opie And Anthony Host Goes On Racist Tirade On Twitter After Alleged Attack
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Oh great now I hate him AND I'm jealous of him.
Arozay
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Argh! Where do I point my pitchfork?!
Yeah, sorry but that just comes across as "Oh, you" style disapproval, not outright denouncement of his bullshit.
Fuck em.
Ugh, this was almost painful to listen to, it's why I usually don't listen to Penn that much. I mean the whole conversation was basically:
I don't know much about the incident, I've only met Anthony a couple times and I never thought he was racist. AND, We all say things when we get punched in the face.
Alright...
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Their days of "shock jockery" are over, and they are probably the second biggest show on Sirius. In addition, Sirius has been aware of his racism all along.
The odds of him getting fired were very slim, and Sirius is only pretending to give a shit now since the story blew up.
I've listened to at least 95% of the content O&A have put on the air since 2010. I maybe miss a day if I'm on vacation and I sometimes skip awful segments, but other than that I listen to every second of every show. I think Opie is racist. Like I said before, not nearly Anthony level racist, but he is. In terms of show racism, it's: Anthony > Danny (so glad when he was fired) > Erock > Opie = Jimmy > Travis > Troy > Sam, and nobody cares about Sal.
MisterGrey3000
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Yeah, Bailey is very pretty.
Tbh, I'm kind of surprised he'd take a picture or hang out with her.
I guess he only hates black (cis and trans) people that he doesn't know.
TrueSpartan
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Excuse me, but you're advocating for violence against literally 50% of the population. Physically attacking someone when no law has been broken is never OK. Actually, it may not be OK even when a law has been broken. Equality doesn't mean anything when it's used to protect one part of the population but not another.
Thanks for describing assault, which is completely illegal, regardless of gender.
You're right, women never break the law. You have this idea that half of the population is on a pedestal. What you said here is so bad I'm not sure if you're trolling.
Why are you equating women to being in the same category as children? You've done this twice now. Women are adults and that's what this conversation is about. Women aren't the helpless creatures or children, stop referring to them as such.
MisterGrey3000
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Comparing adult women to children is one of the most insulting and sexist things that one could do.
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There aren't specific examples of him dropping the n bomb or whatever. It's a general sense I get from listening to him. The "dip my toes" thing from a few weeks back made the strongest impression on me of any one statement but I don't care enough to go back and find it.
Next time he does anything that stands out to me I'll let you know. I doubt it will be soon since the bad influence is now gone.
Yeah, Opie spends years working directly with, and profiting from, a racist and his racist listeners, but pj is the one that should "be careful".
Fuck off with that bullshit. Anyone worth defending would get a million miles away from Anthony.
I can tell you've thought this through.
robotzombie
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Post examples of Opie's racist twitter comments
You literally said there is no reason to be careful calling anyone racist. I believe the person you quoted thought it through enough to pass your requirement.
Contract negotiation was going to be in October. I think Sirius have made it clear they weren't interested in renewing the show.
nah, bro, you're the asshole for slinging these monstrous accusations around. Don't you know you can get poor Opie fired by posting on NeoGAF?
Again? Waste of time really. If you can't see what's so painfully clear...than I can only suggest you get out there in the real world and gain some life experience.
You can start by going back and reading the thread.
If you want to post a reasonable defense of his posts go for it.
robotzombie
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Yes, I really want you to post examples of Opie's racist twitter comments
We're talking about the other guy, Opie. I don't think anyone sane is saying anthony isn't a super racist
I'm going to end this torturous exchange, because this is just painful to watch. You're talking about Anthony, he's talking about Opie. The twitter rant was Anthony's. Two different people.
robotzombie
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...but i wanted to guess what the important skill was 
Arozay
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...but i wanted to guess what the important skill was
Apparently braille
They were arguably the biggest names in radio at one point.
...but i wanted to guess what the important skill was
I'll take my blows on that one...the Anthony defenders had me bemused.
Fuck Opie though - racist fuck
/kiddingI don't think they were making 3 mil a year. That sounds like a number from celebnetworth.com or something. I'd be surprised if it was even a million.
They got their careers by being "shocking" and saying inappropriate things, so I don't think it's fair to assume he should have known he would get fired. Most of the people in this thread early on said "nothing will happen to them".
Yeah, you'd give up all that money just to distance yourself from him, I'd bet...
agrajag said:
Okay, I'll make it simple. Take the millionaire radio host out of the equation and replace him with some poor dude who can barely afford to pay his bills.
Is it still okay to call him a racist with no evidence whatsoever?
FiggyCal said:
I don't know. Sirius has apparently made this clear every time contract negotiations approached if you can believe the bitching they've been doing on the air about it since 2009.
Then again, they have really been fucking with the show lately, probably in an attempt to move more listeners over to Stern.
I never said that violence was OK at all.
Did I ever say that they don't break the law? No, I didn't. I rarely heard of women taking something private of men.
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never equated women to being the same category as children. I'm just saying that men aren't supposed to lay their hands on either women or children. That's it.
Perhaps that I worded it wrong. I'm not exactly comparing adult women to children at all. All I'm saying is that men should never put their hands on either women or children. Is that so hard for anybody to comprehend? Fuck, I'm getting really frustrated here. I don't know why you two are giving me such a hard time over it.
Sorry, but like Norton, Bennington, and others, I have to stand with Anthony here. I don't condone racism by any means but people should be allowed to say what they want. If we don't like it, we don't have to listen to it and destructive types can destroy themselves. I myself am not white and have never considered Anthony to be racist. I think he hits on touchy subjects, maybe too touchy for some people to discuss but the fact is there are those stereotypical problems in different communities and cultures that sometimes have basis in fact. It doesn't make you a racist to understand those problems, but I say if you generalize and assume EVERYONE of said group is like that, then yeah, that is kind of a problem.
White people have KKK, redneck, whatever type stuff in their corner but do I assume all white people are racists? Of course not, but the KKK is comprised of white people, that is a fact and that doesn't make me racist. Are all Muslims terrorists? No,but the fact is a lot of those middle eastern terrorist groups are Muslim extremists. It's a fact. It's like those self proclaimed Christian groups that hate homosexuals, or picket funerals. That doesn't speak for all Christians as a whole. It is unfair to generalize on that scale because in a lot of cases, those bad apples are ostracized and looked down on by their peers, particularly because of how they set everyone back or give them a bad name.
Are there issues in certain black communities concerning crime? Yes. Now in my opinion, I find this really doesn't matter; a bad area is a bad area with thugs of any color. Hate, anger, crimes....they don't have a color, the people committing them do. I see no reason to single a particular group out unless you want to work with statistics and comparisons to other groups or areas. Not racism, just facts.
White, black, asian, latino....I have so many friends of different colors, and I'm glad that with all of them this is a subject we can discuss. We all have bad eggs in our races we are not proud of. It's not racism, it's just accepting that there are serious douchebags out there and their color doesn't matter unless you want to take a look at common themes. "Black gangstaz", "White redneck KKK", "Mexican homeboys"....whatever the hell it might be.
I really think people in general need thicker skins. If someone says something you don't like...who cares? How does it affect you? It's just noise. You can pinch your noise at the stink of it and walk away. There is a ton of racist garbage out there.....only the ...I don't even have a word for it, would seek out racist (Against them) material and decide to be upset about it. You can determine what you allow to be in your life.
Remember though, I am talking about simple speech, social media, and the like. It's a different story when we talk about actual hate crimes, people assaulting people, and things like that. That's a real problem. But words? Come on! Empty, stupid words that only hurt if you allow them. You'd have to seek out Anthony's twitter to read what he wrote and then be offended. That's like choosing to be offended because it's a hobby or something. Screw that, I got better things to do.
Please don't ask my race, I won't reveal. It doesn't matter. My words on the board define who I am. I am actually quite liberal and this is how I feel. I stand with Jim Norton, Joe Rogan, Penn Jillette, Colin Quinn, and many others with Anthony. There is a principal here that I believe in, and it doesn't have anything to do with what Anthony actually said.
This is all I have to say, and will say on this matter. Peace to everyone and let's concerns and outrage be over more serious problems than something somebody said. With all the real problems in the world, I could give a shit less what somebody simply says. Nothing offends me that begins and ends as nothing more than words.
White people have KKK, redneck, whatever type stuff in their corner but do I assume all white people are racists? Of course not, but the KKK is comprised of white people, that is a fact and that doesn't make me racist. Are all Muslims terrorists? No,but the fact is a lot of those middle eastern terrorist groups are Muslim extremists. It's a fact. It's like those self proclaimed Christian groups that hate homosexuals, or picket funerals. That doesn't speak for all Christians as a whole. It is unfair to generalize on that scale because in a lot of cases, those bad apples are ostracized and looked down on by their peers, particularly because of how they set everyone back or give them a bad name.
Are there issues in certain black communities concerning crime? Yes. Now in my opinion, I find this really doesn't matter; a bad area is a bad area with thugs of any color. Hate, anger, crimes....they don't have a color, the people committing them do. I see no reason to single a particular group out unless you want to work with statistics and comparisons to other groups or areas. Not racism, just facts.
White, black, asian, latino....I have so many friends of different colors, and I'm glad that with all of them this is a subject we can discuss. We all have bad eggs in our races we are not proud of. It's not racism, it's just accepting that there are serious douchebags out there and their color doesn't matter unless you want to take a look at common themes. "Black gangstaz", "White redneck KKK", "Mexican homeboys"....whatever the hell it might be.
I really think people in general need thicker skins. If someone says something you don't like...who cares? How does it affect you? It's just noise. You can pinch your noise at the stink of it and walk away. There is a ton of racist garbage out there.....only the ...I don't even have a word for it, would seek out racist (Against them) material and decide to be upset about it. You can determine what you allow to be in your life.
Remember though, I am talking about simple speech, social media, and the like. It's a different story when we talk about actual hate crimes, people assaulting people, and things like that. That's a real problem. But words? Come on! Empty, stupid words that only hurt if you allow them. You'd have to seek out Anthony's twitter to read what he wrote and then be offended. That's like choosing to be offended because it's a hobby or something. Screw that, I got better things to do.
Please don't ask my race, I won't reveal. It doesn't matter. My words on the board define who I am. I am actually quite liberal and this is how I feel. I stand with Jim Norton, Joe Rogan, Penn Jillette, Colin Quinn, and many others with Anthony. There is a principal here that I believe in, and it doesn't have anything to do with what Anthony actually said.
This is all I have to say, and will say on this matter. Peace to everyone and let's concerns and outrage be over more serious problems than something somebody said. With all the real problems in the world, I could give a shit less what somebody simply says. Nothing offends me that begins and ends as nothing more than words.
I hate how defending him suddenly makes you a racist on twitter. I'm black and am a long time listener to the show. I wouldn't make the argument that Ant is not racist, because I believe he is. I just don't think he should've been fired over this rant. Anybody who was a regular listener of the show was not at all shocked that he said some not nice things about black people; it's the people who weren't listeners of the show or even those that didn't realize they were still on the air that were outraged. A situation where he was attacked on the streets turns into an issue where he is the villain and the so called attack that sparked the rant didn't happen at all. I don't fault anybody for being offended by his rant, but if you're not a subscriber to his channel in the first place, who are you to complain?
I'm also liberal and disagree with almost everything Anthony says about politics and race. There was much more to the show than just those two things.
Nobody's stopping him. He's not being fined or going to jail. A corporation can dump people whenever they feel like it.
SonofdonCD
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If we all did this, then eventually they would lose listeners, sponsors, and money, kicking them off the air. Sirius just skipped all of that. And they have the right to do that, as his employer. As an employee of Sirius he represents them whether on or off the clock. So it's obvious that they no longer want to have him be associated with their company. What he did is the equivalent to him ranting and raving exactly the same things as his tweets, but out in the streets instead and his boss happened to be close by and witness it. You don't think he would be fired for doing that?
You answered yourself why people are claiming he's a racist. His tweets don't seem to have much nuance in them. They seem explicit in its attempt to paint all black people as violent savages. He couldn't just look at the woman accosting him as "a woman". He had to associate her as "a black woman", and an angry one at that. If it was a white woman instead, would he have thought "there goes another angry white woman!"? I doubt it. "White" wouldn't even be in the equation. I think that shows his biases and what he really thinks about black people.
I don't quite understand your thought process here. So what you're saying is that if we ignore things that we don't like, they will go away on their own? Cause that's not how the world works. This is not like him saying that he doesn't like chocolate cake or something mundane. Racism (or sexism or homophobia, etc., you get the idea) is something that needs to be stamped out of decent society. Period. The only way to do that is to shine a bright light on it whenever it rears its ugly head, point out why it's wrong (in the hopes that those who are ignorant to it will be enlightened) and squash it out. If I simply ignore the racist, that will not mean that he will stop being racist. He will continue to be racist to others and they will suffer if I didn't do anything to show more people that he is racist when I had the opportunity to do so. That's why the stories with the gay couples going to a cake shop and suing them/crucifying them in the media for not doing it on grounds of their faith are so important. Other people can't know the cake makers are bigots if the people who found out they were bigots just ignored them and didn't do something about it (off-topic, but it's also why it's so imperative that a rape victim comes forth and reports the perpetrator; so he/she doesn't do it again to another victim).
Just because there are more important things to do doesn't mean that this is not worth pursuing. People can multitask.
As many people said (even Penn in his podcast): this isn't a free speech issue. Anthony has the right to say anything he wants. The US government didn't arrest him for his tweets. He is not being punished by them. So his rights were being upheld. But as it has been said countless times: Freedom of speech is not freedom from repercussions of your speech. You can and should be reprimanded by people who don't agree with whatever you say. After all, they are just exorcising their freedom of speech. We have just as much of a right to not like what he said as he had in saying it in the first place.
MisterGrey3000
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Probably. Just try to remember that it's not a good idea to lump grown women in with children; it's a pretty archaic thing to do. The strength difference between the average Joe and Jane is way smaller than the strength difference between a full grown adult and a child.
Also, I don't agree with what you're saying; I generally don't think that men or women should be hitting anybody (Especially children)
However, Small-medium sized adult men are generally taught to not mess around with people who are much bigger than them and the same thing applies to adult women imo.
I don't think a male bodied adult person is a "coward" (dat loaded language) for hitting an adult woman in self defense.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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im not condoning racism im just saying that a guy should be able to call an entire group of people savages and not have to worry about the consequences
Big Baybee
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Claneko............bruh.
MorisUkunRasik
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There's so much wrong in here I don't even want to deconstruct it. You need an education.
Him being fired was up to his employer. I don't think anyone is excusing his attacker if he was attacked, it's just that it's a separate issue. People can definitely complain despite not paying for his show, the incident didn't even occur on his show.
mrduckbear
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everyone knows you have to keep your business and private life separate. he took it to the next level
Angelus Errare
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Savages out here man, we don't even buy food at stores we hunt that shit with our spears and blow darts. We also commune with the spirits via voodoo; and we regularly have mass blood orgies.
Savages.
You're racist.
Savages.
You're racist.
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