So if I'm reading you correctly, this is an invitation to post some Yoshi Inflation fetish shit all over this topic, right?
Will discussion of certain games be banned on Neogaf from here on out?
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So if I'm reading you correctly, this is an invitation to post some Yoshi Inflation fetish shit all over this topic, right?
benjipwns
Banned
*snicker*
Mass Effect
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Honest question: What is your opinion on Fire Emblem and Etrian Odessy?
Yeah... that Splatoon thread ventured into that territory a few times as well.
But Pokemon though? Seriously?
Shouta
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To be honest, considering what the activity in the game entails, it probably veers off far beyond any territories of fanservice, even if you consider fanservice to be anything sexual.
See above. "Punishing" young looking girls with tools in sexual locations like in some of the images in the link bishoptl posted goes far beyond "fanservice." It's basically sexualizing and then objectifying them. That's gross. That is the main issue with this game and ones that fall into this line. The other mods have made this clear in their posts, go read them.
To give you an idea, I tried to simply link an image and a mod deleted the post. It was pretty disturbing, tbh.
I'm not messing here anymore, I wasn't supposed to come back in the first place anyway.
Crash Station
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Don't forget Midna!
I'm all for ending censorship.
But WTF.
This is a game in which you sexually abuse and interrogate under-age/under-age looking girls. When it comes to content in which gameplay revolves events such as SEXUALLY ABUSING CARTOON/ANIME CHILDREN AS PUNISHMENT, I can't rationalize why someone would like it.
Sure, censorship is bad, and techinically things like this would have to exist in a "equal" society. but why in the fuck anyone would approve a game laced with pedophilia is beyond me. If this game didn't add those censors, I'm pretty sure the game would be illegal for some of the things that popped on on my Google Image Search on Safemode, (AFAIK depictions of under-age children [animated or not] in sexual depicitions is outlawed in the US.)
If you buy this game for those scenes, or sincerely argue that this material isn't harmful pre-censor, I'll find you to be utterly disgusting.
But WTF.
This is a game in which you sexually abuse and interrogate under-age/under-age looking girls. When it comes to content in which gameplay revolves events such as SEXUALLY ABUSING CARTOON/ANIME CHILDREN AS PUNISHMENT, I can't rationalize why someone would like it.
Sure, censorship is bad, and techinically things like this would have to exist in a "equal" society. but why in the fuck anyone would approve a game laced with pedophilia is beyond me. If this game didn't add those censors, I'm pretty sure the game would be illegal for some of the things that popped on on my Google Image Search on Safemode, (AFAIK depictions of under-age children [animated or not] in sexual depicitions is outlawed in the US.)
If you buy this game for those scenes, or sincerely argue that this material isn't harmful pre-censor, I'll find you to be utterly disgusting.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
GODDAMMIT
jim-jam bongs
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I don't really have one. Should I?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Not to be mean but I'm having a hard time believing that was your intent.
The game is pretty obviously something most normal people would be disgusted by, and I doubt you posting about it would dissuade any would-be buyers.
RockTurtle
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well if you post sexually suggestive content of course, but LITERALLY child pornography? i think there's some of hyperbolic statements going around...
Yeah, I'm satisfied with just the discussion even if nothing changes. I was completely expecting this thread to be unceremoniously locked after a dozen or so posts.
I am not. See my other posts. I was just talking about my personally held beliefs. I'm aware of the difference between private and public. I just thought the way things were handled was a shame.
Easton Dark
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terrisus
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The Dragon Quest thread does just fine.
That's actually a really good point. Only issue as a result is I don't feel that there's a good term to fall back on to adequately express what the game entails with any sort of concision, which is frustrating.
ShockingAlberto
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This is kind of related, kind of not, but can we also talk about the super creepy treehouse things? Or, like, any creepy reaction to real people that clearly know this place exists?
It's fucking weird. The Treehouse streams were full of "She's my waifu" or "She looks like a 14 year old girl" or "Let's go look for this guy's twitter so we can find shirtless pictures of him oh god so hot."
When did this become a high school? This sort of thing makes me embarrassed to be reading it, keep your fucking hormones in check.
It's fucking weird. The Treehouse streams were full of "She's my waifu" or "She looks like a 14 year old girl" or "Let's go look for this guy's twitter so we can find shirtless pictures of him oh god so hot."
When did this become a high school? This sort of thing makes me embarrassed to be reading it, keep your fucking hormones in check.
tokyostomp
Banned
In my mind I think that the "Other Side" is okay with the sexualization of what appear to be prepubescent girls. I know it isn't real and it is just a "game". I don't know how to describe it any other way.
"Games" such as Ethnic Cleansing wouldn't be tolerated here.
Why should this be?
"Games" such as Ethnic Cleansing wouldn't be tolerated here.
Why should this be?
jim-jam bongs
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I dunno, that guy looks pretty suss imo
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I read Fire Emblem a few times in this thread. What the hell did I miss? I have not played Awakening so I'm guessing the waifus crap went too far?
Netherscourge
Banned
Irregardless of anything, this forum is under moderator jurisdiction.
Your posting privileges, whatever you think they are, are the prerogative of the forum moderators.
Your posting privileges, whatever you think they are, are the prerogative of the forum moderators.
outunderthestars
Banned
What exactly is "fan service"? I always thought it was when a developer threw in a nod to another series, like putting Mega Man in Smash Bros. In this thread it seems like it is code for "creepy shit"
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I am not him, but comparing games like this to Fire Emblem and Etrian Odyssey is so laughable.
There's only one questionable character in a roster of so many characters and no, you don't get to molest that character in any way, shape, or form.
So no, the "waifus crap" didn't went too far. In fact, it's integral to many of the game's most important gameplay mechanics.
What better way to get people's attention
...What?! O_O
Crash Station
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Again, only in certain states.
Vire
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TheBaronOfNA
Banned
UUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Well, I really felt that it was underwhelming localization announcement and the game already had bad rep before the reveal. So I didn't follow the drama.
I cannot say if there is a moment when we should draw the line regarding this types of games. But I feel that there is a line in my taste between Senran Kagura to this stuff. A line that many that are "against" or "in for" this pandering stuff doesn't want to see.
It had a loli presented in a very skimpy outfit who was also a romance option with the excuse that she was "actually" a 1000 year old dragon.
I'm completely fine with the banning of discussions regarding those kinds of "games", the fact that a market for them exists will never cease to baffle me.
That doesn't mean other games from the company (NIS or w/e their name is) should be banned from discussion, I suppose they have other titles that aren't necessarily frowned upon.
That doesn't mean other games from the company (NIS or w/e their name is) should be banned from discussion, I suppose they have other titles that aren't necessarily frowned upon.
terrisus
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Yeah, I find GAF is generally a pretty good place for serious discussions.
Everyone - indoor voices.
Yeah, while I try not to judge anyone for their yearnings or lifestyle, I do feel uncomfortable when people are so shameless lusting for people who can see what they're saying and be affected by it
It kind of tainted Treehouse Live and made me wonder if some of the people who wanted it to continue did so for less-than-game-related reasons
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
There's one character who's a skimpily dressed little girl, but she's "actually 1000 years old".
You can marry anyone to her regardless of age. There's other young people, but none of them are as in-your-face as she is.
Lord of Castamere
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There are a few loli type characters but you can't sexually punish them or see them in sexually suggestive ways. It's not comparable.
Mass Effect
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Depends. Some of the character designs are... questionable. Just wondering what you thought.
fan service can have multiple meanings. In the context of men/women in sexual positions it means exactly that, pandering to fans of a certain subset of boys/girls/men/women with a certain degree of sexualization.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
My over-sexualized pheromones can be transmitted through the internet.
Turning everyone into voracious lust bunnies.
Shades of the thing with Jade Raymond.
STOP COMPROMISING THIS IMPORTANT ARTISTIC VISION!!
Crying "logical fallacy" is irrelevant. Nobody doesn't know that ad hominem isn't a sound formal logical method. You got insulted and then said "I was insulted!". We all know, we were all there, we all saw it. But we aren't Plato and we're not writing tracts of ironclad Truth here. This isn't a court of law. "This guy has written some bad things" is a pretty useful heuristic for deciding if future things aren't worth reading.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
wait, you were serious?
hahaha, go play the game, it's not a game that would ever get banned.
Seeing super mild fanservice = punishing naked 6 year old anime girls by touching them. Duh.
The thoughts of same people in here make me mentally shocked.
It can certainly mean that, but it's also often used to describe light (usually), often sexual, pandering, a common trait in otaku-centric media. But I agree with Shouta here having read his response, this game is far beyond that, and fan service really isn't the right terminology any longer.
Sakura
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I did read the other mods posts.
For example on page 7:
There are many games that prominently feature underage girl fan-service, again, for example Senran Kagura Versus. This is why I am asking. Punishment isn't mentioned anywhere there. I posted also on page 7 asking if it was just the punishment itself that is the problem but nobody replied to me.
ChoklitCow
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Yeah, that was me. At the same time, I am impressed with how many mods there are. People just keep showing up out of nowhere.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
You must not be familiar with Ryuukan.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I haven't played the game yet so total lack of context here (I do own it tho), but I think BD's choice of SEXY CLOTHES could have just been an unfortunate coupling with the chibi-art style SE did for their 3D portable JRPG's (while the actual box art the characters makes them seem like adults, but again I have no clue about their ages), but seeing the outcry that a character had a few more belts attached to their outfit or pants covering their legs in the western release was pretty funny.
This thread's turning into a bit of a clusterfuck, but I am wondering what the GAF stance is on something like Kill La Kill which I thoroughly enjoyed (not into anime much in the first place) and had a ton of fan-service despite the cast mostly being high-school aged girls (though they may have been roughly 18/20 by the end of the series, I forget). I don't like going to the OT-forum much in the first place, but a show like that being lumped in with a game like this would be a bigger deal to me.
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