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Oh come on. Sitcoms have ridiculous unrealistic conversations all the goddamn time. Any scene in any medium that doesn't have someone going "Uh", "Um" or pausing mid sentence to repeat their own words is straight out of fantasy.

If you think all anime is just shonen haato friendship-is-the-power bullshit you've already slashed your own damn tendons instead of opening your eyes. It's like judging the entire medium of movies because you only watch Dreamworks pictures.

You're absolutely right, sitcoms, one aspect of the television medium are often filled with exaggerated, unrealistic characters. There are also hundreds of shows, covering all genres, with far more well written, realistic and down to earth characters and plots.

You should watch some good ones. Check out the films by Satoshi Kon. His stuff is like watching a live-action movie. Beautiful music and animation and cool characters. The character designs in his movies tend to look more realistic as well.

Generalizing anime is like generalizing comics. They're not all about superheroes. There are ones out there that will match your taste.

I am fully open to watching any anime TV show that might contradict my points (as long as it isn't a 300 episode show that requires watching 50 before it 'gets good') and subvert some of the issues I listed.

Full attempts I've made (barring youtube clips etc): Cowboy Bebop (got to the second episode), Battleship Yamato (couldn't finish first episode) and Attack on Titan (watched whole series with housemate, he didn't give me much choice).

Well, I don't want it to turn into a huge anime debate either, but my statement was more that anime is such a general term covering so many different topics, covering a pretty wide range of styles that it's useless to stereotype it into a singular nebulous term.

Fair enough, but there really doesn't seem to be much variation aside form varying levels of crazy and exaggerated characters, odd speaking patterns and little effort by translators to add depth to their prose.

We posting on a video game focused forum about dudes who talk over and about said video games for hours each week. I'm fairly certain everyone here has enough free time to watch chinese cartoons
How people spend their time is their choice, I'm talking more about the structure of the medium itself - it doesn't seem to consider the audience's time very valuable. I frequently see, even in this very thread, people complain about 'filler' content and drawn out story-lines.

You may not want to start an argument, but some people might not abide by such staggering ignorance.
To be clear, that comment wasn't "Here's what I think, I accept no debate!", it was a response to Antiwhippy's comment regarding why some people dismiss anime outright. Of course there's a discussion to be had on a discussion forum, but my point was I have no problems with someone liking the medium, but here's why I do not.

Also, I did actually try to give it a shot:
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The fun thing is that I generally like western comics more.

Full attempts I've made (barring youtube clips etc): Cowboy Bebop (got to the second episode), Battleship Yamato (couldn't finish first episode) and Attack on Titan (watched whole series with housemate, he didn't give me much choice).

That doesn't look like full attempts.
 
You're absolutely right, sitcoms, one aspect of the television medium are often filled with exaggerated, unrealistic characters. There are also hundreds of shows, covering all genres, with far more well written, realistic and down to earth characters and plots.



I am fully open to watching any anime TV show that might contradict my points (as long as it isn't a 300 episode show that requires watching 50 before it 'gets good') and subvert some of the issues I listed.

Full attempts I've made (barring youtube clips etc): Cowboy Bebop (got to the second episode), Battleship Yamato (couldn't finish first episode) and Attack on Titan (watched whole series with housemate, he didn't give me much choice).



Fair enough, but there really doesn't seem to be much variation aside form varying levels of crazy and exaggerated characters, odd speaking patterns and little effort by translators to add depth to their prose.


How people spend their time is their choice, I'm talking more about the structure of the medium itself - it doesn't seem to consider the audience's time very valuable. I frequently see, even in this very thread, people complain about 'filler' content and drawn out story-lines.


To be clear, that comment wasn't "Here's what I think, I accept no debate!", it was a response to Antiwhippy's comment regarding why some people dismiss anime outright. Of course there's a discussion to be had on a discussion forum, but my point was I have no problems with someone liking the medium, but here's why I do not.

Also, I did actually try to give it a shot:

Yea, which is whyI highly recommend watching anime films over TV shows as a gateway. They're usually good stories without having to invest in 100 of hours to get into like with TV shows. Studio Ghibli is something your entire family can check out too.
 
You're absolutely right, sitcoms, one aspect of the television medium are often filled with exaggerated, unrealistic characters. There are also hundreds of shows, covering all genres, with far more well written, realistic and down to earth characters and plots.

Just like anime, you doofus.
 
Fair enough, but there really doesn't seem to be much variation aside form varying levels of crazy and exaggerated characters, odd speaking patterns and little effort by translators to add depth to their prose.

My top 3 anime/manga features a girl trying to make her way through the theatre industry through her natural adlibbing skills, a romantic comedy about 2 college piano students showcasing their struggles breaking into a career in music (whose author is currently doing a romantic comedy based around PC overclocking if you want to talk about diversity) and a post-apocalyptic story where a bunch of teenagers set out to learn how to survive in a strange, new hostile world.

I agree that there are stuff that are repeated more often due to popularity but you can generally find shows/series for people with all sorts of tastes.
 
Giant BEast lives! Now, what's Bot Colony?

We had this discussion before and between the anime

Hmmmm...

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“Bot Colony makes unscripted conversation with the characters a pillar of gameplay. We've developed advanced Natural Language Understanding technology to bring you this new experience. In a nutshell, it means our in-game characters understand what you say – whether you speak it or type it. Merged with a classic adventure game design filled with twists and turns, Bot Colony’s innovative interaction has the potential to revolutionize PC games. This integration is novel, and obviously needs to be refined based on community feedback.”
 
I hope Bot Colony will be the right kind of broken.

As in, "oh, this kind of works", and not, "this doesn't recognise a word I'm saying."
 
This thread has been a good reminder for me of why I never talk about anime to people.

I used to try correcting people when they said anime was "like Pokemon," in 2000, and now I just wish people thought anime was just Pokemon and let it go already.

The discussion around anime has just turned into a farce of trying to prove something that I am not even sure what it is anymore. On some level, anime discussion just turns into an allegory for nerds in general, too passionate for its own good.
 
My experiences with anime are a little weird. Like a lot of guys who were teenagers in the early 2000s I'd watch DBZ on Toonami when I got home from school. And it was great, up until the point where Goku and Freiza fought for like 10 episodes and its like "fuck, get on with it already." Then it ends and rather than continue on with the story they reset back to the beginning of the show. I basically gave up on ever watching anime at that point. Hell, shortly thereafter I gave up on most Japanese games and eventually dumped consoles altogether and focused only on PC.

Then, last year around E3 there was a story about World of Tanks doing some cross marketing thing with some show called "Girls under Panzer." Oh Japan, you're so weird. But I caught a couple clips on YouTube, signed up for a free trial at Crunchyroll, and lo and behold, the show was legitimately funny. Guess I got lucky, the show could have been shit and I would have gone back to being "fuck Japan and their weird loli fetish."

Yeah, lot of shit out there, I've watched a lot of shit. But there's some genuinely entertaining stuff if you take the time to look.
 
My experiences with anime are a little weird. Like a lot of guys who were teenagers in the early 2000s I'd watch DBZ on Toonami when I got home from school. And it was great, up until the point where Goku and Freiza fought for like 10 episodes and its like "fuck, get on with it already." Then it ends and rather than continue on with the story they reset back to the beginning of the show. I basically gave up on ever watching anime at that point. Hell, shortly thereafter I gave up on most Japanese games and eventually dumped consoles altogether and focused only on PC.

Then, last year around E3 there was a story about World of Tanks doing some cross marketing thing with some show called "Girls under Panzer." Oh Japan, you're so weird. But I caught a couple clips on YouTube, signed up for a free trial at Crunchyroll, and lo and behold, the show was legitimately funny. Guess I got lucky, the show could have been shit and I would have gone back to being "fuck Japan and their weird loli fetish."

Yeah, lot of shit out there, I've watched a lot of shit. But there's some genuinely entertaining stuff if you take the time to look.

I heard that Girls und Panzer is legit good even when the premise is weird (tankery is a girls sport in an alternate world). So yeah, you got lucky.
 
This thread has been a good reminder for me of why I never talk about anime to people.

I used to try correcting people when they said anime was "like Pokemon," in 2000, and now I just wish people thought anime was just Pokemon and let it go already.

The discussion around anime has just turned into a farce of trying to prove something that I am not even sure what it is anymore. On some level, anime discussion just turns into an allegory for nerds in general, too passionate for its own good.

Discussing anime, video games, wrestling and professional sports are all the same to me. We're all nerds.
 
You didn't catch the amazing Water 7/Enies Lobby arc, which I think is the one right after Skypiea?

I actually quit the show for 2 years after Enies Lobby because of lack of time and not thinking the show would do better than that.

I picked it up again and holy crap was I not prepared for what came soon after haha. I love that show still.
 
is the one piece anime actually good? I watched up to skypiea or whatever, and stopped.

...yes.

It's tough because I think it's one of those shows that you can't watch the english dub for because of it's history with 4kids and funimation.

So let's see, that being said, if you want to know if One Piece is good, watch until the end of Arlong Park series. If you aren't hooked by then, One Piece is not for you.

If you're still on board, watch up through skypeia (though you can skip ahead as the pacing of Skypiea is TERRIBLE), skip the davyback fight, watch through water 7 up to current.

I'm not a huge fan of how they handled the war on Maryjoa but...whatever.

For me One Piece has become the show where it's like, look up the well animated episodes on the internet and watch those, but otherwise just read the manga.
 
Now that Jeff mentioned it on the podcast i can't not see it. They can make insane future robots but they can't make clean video that doesn't glitch out?
 
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