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[NYCmetsfan]

They're suing him for not implementing his socialist takeover fast enough

http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/boehner-about-protecting-constitution

WASHINGTON, DC – House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement announcing that the House would initiate legal action over President Obama’s unilateral actions on the health care law’s employer mandate in 2013:

“Today we’re releasing a draft resolution that will authorize the House to file suit over the way President Obama unilaterally changed the employer mandate. In 2013, the president changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work. No president should have the power to make laws on his or her own.

“As I’ve said, this isn't about Republicans versus Democrats; it’s about the Legislative Branch versus the Executive Branch, and above all protecting the Constitution. The Constitution states that the president must faithfully execute the laws, and spells out that only the Legislative Branch has the power to legislate. The current president believes he has the power to make his own laws – at times even boasting about it. He has said that if Congress won’t make the laws he wants, he’ll go ahead and make them himself, and in the case of the employer mandate in his health care law, that’s exactly what he did. If this president can get away with making his own laws, future presidents will have the ability to as well. The House has an obligation to stand up for the Legislative Branch, and the Constitution, and that is exactly what we will do.”

NOTE: The president’s unilateral actions on the health care law’s employer mandate will be the focus of the litigation brought by the House (the text of the resolution can be found here.)

Obama's Response: "So Sue me"

Vox explainer http://www.vox.com/2014/7/9/5879693/boehners-lawsuit-against-obama-explained

 

[ivysaur12]

HAHA!

 

[Takamura-San]

Im looking at the calendar and is not April 1st...

 

[Parallax]

This is too ridiculous to be real

 

[User 100115]

I'm so confused.

 

[speculawyer]

So by the time any decision on this is reached they'll probably be implementing that portion. What will the remedy be? Make Obama write on a chalkboard like Bart Simpson?

 

[Shaanyboi]

this an Onion article?

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Scalia darkly imagined a system "in which Congress and the Executive can pop immediately into court, in their institutional capacity, whenever the President refuses to implement a statute he believes to be unconstitutional, and whenever he implements a law in a manner that is not to Congress's liking." He added, "Placing the Constitution's entirely anticipated political arm wrestling into permanent judicial receivership does not do the system a favor."

.

 

[Acorn]

I just got a nosebleed

 

[Shard]

They are just throwing darts badly now.

 

[BatDan]

this an Onion article?

I can't even tell anymore.

 

[Savitar]

Batshit party doing batshit things and will complain when they fail in court.

You know, like the other times.

 

[Syf]

"...this isn't about republicans versus democrats."

Yeah, okay.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

NO WORDS

 

[Tamanon]

This seems like a bad idea.

 

[thehypocrite]

FREEDOOOMMMBB.

CHECKK AND BALANCESSSSSS.

"MERICUH.


Lol. So bizarre.

 

[Ominym]

Grown ass men are doing this. Just think about that for a moment.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I love how by suing him and not impeaching him they're tacitly admitting he's committed no major crimes

 

[Plinko]

This party is unraveling.

 

[linkboy]

I love how by suing him and not impeaching him they're tacitly admitting he's committed no major crimes

That's because they're throwing shit at the wall and praying as hard as they can that something sticks.

 

[Fenderputty]

I must have missed the part where it was socialized in the first place.

 

[ezrarh]

They somehow keep topping themselves.

 

[Piggus]

Republicans.

 

[BLACKLAC]

The only thing Republicans do is waste time.

That's because they're throwing shit at the wall and praying as hard as they can that something sticks.

They're praying that enough of their base will be stupid enough to take the bait.

 

[Admiral Bone to Pick]

As I’ve said, this isn't about Republicans versus Democrats

Yeah, sure it isn't!

 

[Lathentar]

They need to impeach him for skipping the line at Franklin's.

(Also, boo for completely shutting down the Iron Bridge at 360. That caused hellish traffic this morning.)

 

[linkboy]

What I find super funny about Republican's bitching about socialized health care is that,

The military already has socialized health care. Tricare is government health care, it's provided by the government for military members.

Yet who would be the first party bitching if anyone tried to make major changes to Tricare.

 

[Plinko]

So, if I may:

Republicans are suing him for implementing a delay that many republicans were asking him to implement?

 

[Moondrop]

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

 

[The Librarian]

Obama's Response: "So Sue me"

bahahahaha

 

[nckillthegrimace]

The Speaker should change his name to Flaccid because he has no standing.

 

[terrisus]

for Not Socializing Medicine Fast Enough

Where does it say or imply that?...

 

[linkboy]

So, if I may:

Republicans are suing him for implementing a delay that many republicans were asking him to implement?

Like I said, throwing shit at a wall and praying something sticks.

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

I'm not liberal, but the modern Republican party is a bunch of out of touch, braindead morons who can't see past their own narrow world view (military good, gays bad, democrats bad, war good, church GREAT, Muslims terrorist scum*).

*Muslims are not terroist scum, but that's how the vast majority of Republicans view them.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Four months until November.

 

[Toa TAK]

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

Come on, don't be like that.

 

[Acorn]

"Fiscal restraint"= Wasting tax payers money and courts time with stupid political stunts.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

All the filibusters and then putting attention on this. Give me a mother chuckin break.

 

[Circle Jerk]

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

If you want to defend this, go ahead. But please avoid this type of conversation ending bullshit.

 

[Acorn]

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

Drive by post. Make your argument.

 

[Fenderputty]

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

Never change conserva drive by GAF. Never change.

 

[Atenhaus]

What I find super funny about Republican's bitching about socialized health care is that,

The military already has socialized health care. Tricare is government health care, it's provided by the government for military members.

Yet who would be the first party bitching if anyone tried to make major changes to Tricare.

Military brat reporting in. I fucking love my Tricare. I pay $120 a month for a plan with no deductible, no cap on services, no anything. It's amazing.

 

[BertramCooper]

Truth be told, though, weakening (and potentially revoking) the employer mandate really does socialize medicine faster, since it could potentially get a lot more low-wage workers on Medicaid and away from employer-sponsored health insurance.

But yeah, the irony of Republicans suing the president for using executive powers to do something they actually want to do themselves is pretty hilarious.

Though I could be misunderstanding this ridiculous lawsuit. It's entirely possible.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Where does it say or imply that?...

It was a joke about the Republicans calling Obamacare socialized medicine (its not). They're suing him because he delayed part of the law.

 

[linkboy]

Military brat reporting in. I fucking love my Tricare. I pay $120 a month for a plan with no deductible, no cap on services, no anything. It's amazing.

E-5 in the Air Force.

It's just funny watching Republican's bitch about socialized health care and then support one of/if not, the biggest socialized health care programs in the country.

You know damn well that if Obama came out and annouced that Democrats were working on overhauling the military health care system, Republican's would bitch up a storm.

Same with Medicare, Medicad and Social Security. Those are all socialist programs in nature, yet you mention any changes to them and people blow a gasket. Talk about socialized health care for everyone and suddenly it's a problem.

 

[Enzom21]

Never change, super liberal OT GAF.

Are you going to elaborate on this or just be a coward and leave it as a drive by post?
I'm guessing the latter.

 

[MC Safety]

Drive by post. Make your argument.

My argument is that the thread title is horribly misleading.

The press release clearly states the issue of contention is whether our president circumvented congress. I'm not sure if a court case is warranted, but the president is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws of the nation, not changing them to suit his needs or disregarding them altogether.

 

[terrisus]

They're suing him because he delayed part of the law.

Where does it say that?

I'm assuming I'm just missing it, but I'm not seeing it.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Where does it say that?

I'm assuming I'm just missing it, but I'm not seeing it.

“Today we’re releasing a draft resolution that will authorize the House to file suit over the way President Obama unilaterally changed the employer mandate. In 2013, the president changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work. No president should have the power to make laws on his or her own.

.

 

[heliosRAzi]

My argument is that the thread title is horribly misleading.

The press release clearly states the issue of contention is whether our president circumvented congress. I'm not sure if a court case is warranted, but the president is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws of the nation, not changing them to suit his needs or disregarding them altogether.

Republicans wanted him to delay the employer mandate. President delays employer mandate. Republicans sue President for delaying employer mandate.

 

[Chumly]

Lol this has to be some kind of sick joke. I was pissed that Obama delayed that part but it was a major republican concession basically because nobody was ready. Now they are turning around and using it against him.