2014 FIFA World Cup Final |OT| Germany defeats Argentina 1-0 after extra time

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Doesn't matter he came with the knee against the player and that is fucking disgusting.

Jesus Christ... That's what goalies are taught to do... I don't see you making a big fuss about schwein getting the shit beat out of him and punched in the face hard enough to draw blood. Get over it. Watch the game before coming to stupid conclusions.
 
Why are people so hung up on Neuer x Higuain thing? Do they want Neuer sent off or something?

Just marvel at the craziest goalkeeper of our time. He gives no fucks. It's your fault if you stay in his way. =P
 
This doesn't rid the player in every ball dispute with just that. The referee needs to see the whole situation and the consequences. And in this dispute Neuer's knee hit Higuain's head in a flying jump. He could avoid that. It was a dangerous move. It ain't that simple.

Wasn't dangerous play since he didn't jump towards the player but the ball.
Higuain ran into him.

There is absolutely no rule Neuer broke here.
 
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Nope, not a red, not a PK, not a foul. Goalies always have the right to do what he did, and used the same posture goalies always do. It wasn't his fault someone YOLO'd into his knee.

Yeah, maybe if you started watching football 4 weeks ago.

Goalies are trained to do that, everyone who has ever played a game of footy knows this. You jump against a goalie like that you expect to get clattered.

No they don't have any right to do that. It's the same "right" every player has to open the arms when you jump to dispute the ball in the air. But when you accidentaly hit the opponent with it, it's a foul. The same thing happens with the goalkeeper in this situation.

Goalies don't have any "special" status besides catching the ball with hands inside the area. There's nothing like that in the FIFA rules.

The referee could understand that was a normal collision, though. But others, like the commentator in my broadcast said it was penalty since he hits the player's head violently.
 
No he didn't. Goalies are taught to jump with a knee up to protect their body and not go flying.

The player ran into Neuer's knee. Neuer did not knee the player. Watch the replay.

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The moment neuer touches the ball first it becomes a new situation and is counted as if higuain runs into neuer
 
Why are people so hung up on Neuer x Higuain thing? Do they want Neuer sent off or something?

Just marvel at the craziest goalkeeper of our time. He gives no fucks. It's your fault if you stay in his way. =P

People don't like how intimidating and bold he is, they see it as arrogant and reckless.

No one is complaining about Kramer's head injury though ...
 
I think there is no one who defends this part of the decision of the referee.

Neuer punched the ball out of the field and Argentina should have got the throw-in. But it wasn't a foul by Neuer.

Very true. Foul by neither of the players. Higuain didn't really have the chance to get his head out the way. Neuer was a bit heavy handed but that's what happens in the Sweeper Keeper role.
 
You know, looking at these replays here, I'm not entirely sure the ball is even in the box when Neuer punches it. I wonder if there's a view that shows that more clearly. Not that it matters.

Yeah, this is what I am wondering. Need a different angle. He reaches way over the Higuain to punch it such that it doesn't look like it was in the box when he touched it.
 
From my part it has nothing to do with hating Neuer, he's an incredible goalie. Just thought it was a weird call from the ref. And in my first post about it I stated I thought Neuer deserved a yellow for it.

Only thing I felt like Argentina might missed out on is a free kick. But apparenty Neuer did nothing wrong if you follow the rule book. So yeah, it's nothing really.
 
Awesome World Cup overall, going to be great fun trying to get back to a normal sleep schedule now. In the seven years since I joined gaf I think I had around 50 posts and these threads got me to full member status so that is something I guess. I kind of bailed out around the height of all that concacaf nonsense though, but thanks for keeping me awake through all of the group stages gaf :)
 
From my part it has nothing to do with hating Neuer, he's an incredible goalie. Just thought it was a weird call from the ref. And in my first post about it I stated I thought Neuer deserved a yellow for it.

Only thing I felt like Argentina might missed out on is a free kick. But apparenty Neuer did nothing wrong if you follow the rule book. So yeah, it's nothing really.

I don't think any card should have been given.

I also don't think a foul was really needed though.
 
Wasn't dangerous play since he didn't jump towards the player but the ball.
Higuain ran into him.

There is absolutely no rule Neuer broke here.

No, Higuain runs for the ball, both of them. Higuain always looked at the ball. It was a dispute, Neuer cames first but then also hits him. If you say Higuain ran into his knee you had to assume Neuer wasn't in a middle of a movement like he indeed was.
 
Neuer already took a great risk by punching that ball. It's really hard to tell if the ball is still within the 16 meter box. On top of that it was just reckless too jump in like that with his knee as high as Higuains face.

But let's assume Neuer is right in doing that. How can anyone explain that Higuain got the call against him? What did Higuain do?

I don't understand either. Wasn't a free to Argentine imo, but wasn't a free to Germany either.

Yeah, this is what I am wondering. Need a different angle. He reaches way over the Higuain to punch it such that it doesn't look like it was in the box when he touched it.

I think it was just on the line.
 
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Podolski, the Selfie king:

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If he'd play as well as he's taking selfies.

Oh look what a cute and immature response. Time to ignore you.

Lol this clown, did he even played once? yet we see him always run around with the cup.
 
No he didn't. Goalies are taught to jump with a knee up to protect their body and not go flying.

The player ran into Neuer's knee. Neuer did not knee the player. Watch the replay.

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I don't know why some keep harping on this (even on tv) like this lost the game or something. Argentina had plenty of chances to score and didn't get it done. Germany's just a better team.
 
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The moment neuer touches the ball first it becomes a new situation and is counted as if higuain runs into neuer

That's bullshit, can still be a red card if he used "CARELESS, RECKLESS, INVOLVING EXCESSIVE FORCE". You could definitely make the argument for jumping with knees first like that is reckless.

It's a real hard one. The Howedes one however was a clear red.
 
From my part it has nothing to do with hating Neuer, he's an incredible goalie. Just thought it was a weird call from the ref. And in my first post about it I stated I thought Neuer deserved a yellow for it.

Only thing I felt like Argentina might missed out on is a free kick. But apparenty Neuer did nothing wrong if you follow the rule book. So yeah, it's nothing really.

If the ref. Was giving cards as he should ARG would be playing with eight players, its pretty obvious that the ref. Wasn't strict at all.
 
Well sure, I think he knows as well as everyone that he didn't deserve it, more likely that he received it due to FIFA's corrupt deals. Hell, even the TV commentators at the time were saying he shouldn't have won it.

People are more pissed at FIFA than him. The dude looked mortified and embarrassed that they picked him.

Or, maybe he was still really upset that he/his team just lost a World Cup Final and he wasn't exactly down with having to get a meaningless (to him) award.
 
No they don't have any right to do that. It's the same "right" every player has to open the arms when you jump to dispute the ball in the air. But when you accidentaly hit the opponent with it, it's a foul. The same thing happens with the goalkeeper in this situation.

Goalies don't have any "special" status besides catching the ball with hands inside the area. There's nothing like that in the FIFA rules.

The referee could understand that was a normal collision, though. But others, like the commentator in my broadcast said it was penalty since he hits the player's head violently.

Maybe on paper, but in execution, there are no cards or punishes like PKs if the "aggressor" isn't intentionally going after the player.

Countless, and I mean countless, of cardable offenses in the tournament were not handed a card exactly because of that. This situation fits exactly into that. Sorry, but that's reality, and that's why it wasn't called.
 
From my part it has nothing to do with hating Neuer, he's an incredible goalie. Just thought it was a weird call from the ref. And in my first post about it I stated I thought Neuer deserved a yellow for it.

Only thing I felt like Argentina might missed out on is a free kick. But apparenty Neuer did nothing wrong if you follow the rule book. So yeah, it's nothing really.

If the ref would've called a foul by Neuer it would have been a penalty kick because it was in the box and it would've been a red card because Neuer was the last man and Higuain would've been through. The rules are clear here.
 
After all, things worth mentioning:

-Of course Germany played very good, before everyone goes nuts.
-Now you know we're not Brazil.
-They showed Neuer's new fatality.
-Disastrous referee.

I'm proud, it hurts, but I'm proud. We are not a team, we are a Nation.
 
No, Higuain runs for the ball, both of them. Higuain always looked at the ball. It was a dispute, Neuer cames first but then also hits him. If you say Higuain ran into his knee you had to assume Neuer wasn't in a middle of a movement like he indeed was.

- Neuer has every right to go for that ball in the air in the penalty box
- Higuain is standing in his way waiting for the ball to drop down.
- Once Neuer gets to the ball, Higuain commits a blocking foul. Seriously, watch every other corner kick when the keeper comes out. The ref is always gonna call that in favour of the GK.
- Finally, the issue of the "high knee". Some comments asking for a red for Neuer because of that are just comical. Again, watch some corner kicks and in general replays of keepers punching the ball/catching the ball in the air/jumping up etc. EVERY goalkeeper in the world raises that knee when jumping and rushing out. Every single decent one is taught to do so as a kid to protect themselves. If they didn't, the clueless likes of Higuain not aware of the their location would seriously risk injuring keepers. If Neuer doesn't protect himself with the knee, he easily could have been flipped over and in seriously pain.

This needs to die.
 
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