This isn't a gender swap.
Thor is now the goddess of Thunder
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Female literally every comic character. DC and Marvel should be set in universes where there are no men. Like, Themyscira but the whole universe.
70% of the time those reasons end up being writers just not having any idea what to do with a character. That's how you end up falling into obscurity. Character they didn't create, and they don't particularly like, so they don't give a fuck, stick him in the corner with the coat rack. We've seen it happen a hundred times. If someone wants to do the work to develop a character that has some quality creation and design, it will endure. If not...random black guy in a mask only old dudes recognize.
Isn't there already a Batwoman?
Sibersk Esto
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Ok now that's a little overboard
Tizoc
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Pretty much yeah, but the stories better be good.
In Jason Aaron We Trust.
You didn't read what I was replying to, clearly. Everybody would love to just create a new enduring character. Since you clearly have that figured out, I expect to see your comic topping the charts soon.
There should be a universe where no one has a gender. See how that turns out.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Jason Aaron has been killing it with Thor God of Thunder, so I'm okay to see where he goes with this.
what happened to comics are for everyone?
Dreams-Visions
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So that I'm clear:
Original Thor simply becomes unworthy of the hammer, and the new lady here, being found worthy of the hammer assumes the name, "Thor"?
Original Thor simply becomes unworthy of the hammer, and the new lady here, being found worthy of the hammer assumes the name, "Thor"?
Manmademan
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Yep. Not really that big of a deal. It's happened several times before, and one of those was a frog .
Keep in mind we literally just finished an arc where Spiderman was killed, and not only did some other guy become spider man, that other guy ALSO became the new PETER PARKER.
calm down errybody
Sibersk Esto
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Pai Pai Master
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Yes. People are thinking it's much more complicated than it actually is.
entremet
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Wat?!
That sounds amazing.
Dongs Macabre
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Doc Ock implanted his memories in Peter's brain and took over, with Peter's memories in Ock. Then Peter-Ock died while Ock-Peter became the new Spider-Man.
Pai Pai Master
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Superior Spider-Man. Doctor Octopus finally gets rid of Peter Parker by swapping bodies and BECOMING him.
Stupid premise, pretty good execution. Was a lot of fun and a fresh take on the character.
bengraven
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Same here. More of this, please. And racial swaps.
Pai Pai Master
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You're in luck, as the new Captain America is black.
Sibersk Esto
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As a comic reader from the 90's, This kind of shit ain't new:
……forgetit
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Eh, I give it a year.
Reparations for years of exclusionary comics.
Or a joke tweaking the noses of comic fans losing their minds today. You decide. ;-)
Sibersk Esto
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But that just proves that it's not easy. You need a good idea, the right creative team, and the right market (probably the most crucial element) to make a character happen. That shit doesn't all just fall into place everyday.
Legacies (which is all this is) happen all the time, b. It's a way to minimize risk and ensure that these new characters actually get some time to take hold. "Kamala Khan: "Changling Girl" could have been pushed aside tomorrow with 5 issues under her belt. "Kamala Khan: Ms. Marvel" is a lot harder to get rid of because of that legacy name.
I am literally about to read some Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle (hence why I keep bringing him up lol) as I post.
Goofy as this was, I did enjoy the scene where black Lois asked Supes if he would marry her if she were black and he starts sweating bullets.
Ultimate Peter was also killed. And is alive again. Yet to be explained. Maybe a clone.
Oh you!
Hardly anyone reads comic books. That's why inclusion is important.
I've already responded to having my "cred" questioned (and I apparently failed because even though I read comics I don't read the right ones). Now I can better empathize with women who are called "fake geek girls" at least!
Face it Tiger..
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A bit disappointing it's a white woman, why could it be a minority.. or even an elf?
a blu elf thor would have been cool.
Whatever I don't know why Marvel is even doing this, especially since God Bomb and Thor of many generations have both been fantastic comic books. It won't last that long anyway.
Female Thor is still pretty cool though.
I'd like her as my avatar too.
I wonder if it's brunnhilde.
a blu elf thor would have been cool.
Whatever I don't know why Marvel is even doing this, especially since God Bomb and Thor of many generations have both been fantastic comic books. It won't last that long anyway.
Female Thor is still pretty cool though.
I'd like her as my avatar too.
I wonder if it's brunnhilde.
Sibersk Esto
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My man Supes is down with the swirlGoofy as this was, I did enjoy the scene where black Lois asked Supes if he would marry her if she were black and he starts sweating bullets.
I wasn't questioning your cred, I wanted to see what your tastes were.
Nope, but Thor is both the son of Odin and the person wielding Mjolnir. Usually that is one person, but sometimes it is two. Basically Thor doesn't stop being Thor just because he isn't wielding Mjolnir, but whoever wields Mjolnir is Thor.
lighthouse777
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no Thor is male.. period
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Deleted member 13876
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Well, most of them are actually. It''s just this one that's not.
Which is fine, so is this female Thor canon or alternate universe style?
Sibersk Esto
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Canon
Main universe. Thor Odinson is gonna lose the right to wield Mjolnir soon, and Nu-Thor gets it.
Pai Pai Master
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Canon, our Bro Thor is still around.
Manmademan
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Technically air walker and the destroyer both picked up mjolnir, but neither is technically alive nor has a gender.
Ah, well, that's not so surprising considering his boo-boo's during Uncanny Avengers and the small hint in Avengers.
What's this? :OWell he did inadvertantly get the Earth blown up by a Celestial in Uncanny Avengers.
Thor as we know him will still be around (not sure what we're supposed to call him) using his axe Jarnbjorn
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Was mostly making a punctuation joke here, but this is the upcoming main universe canon yes.
If we want to go into more details the inscription on Thor's hammer has always said:
"Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."
Other than that there've been two instances of another guy picking up the hammer and calling himself Thor from that point on. So it's not that big of a stretch besides the male name awkwardness. There has actually been a character that adopted the names Thoretta and Thorita, but I think that's equally awkward of handling a thing like this.
http://www.comicvine.com/thor-girl/4005-12335/
Sibersk Esto
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"Picking up mjolnir" is the Marvel equivalent of killing a bunch of green lanterns
Canon huh... well it would definitely make for an interesting story of how he was deemed unworthy, his relationship with this "New-Thor" and his rise to maybe get it back. By the sound of this will probably a huge fall and an even deeper rise.
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