Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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Yep! It was so exciting when the new glitch was found so many years after the game came out.
I'd try to explain it, but it's easier to just link to a wiki. You basically try to go to the name entry page and go back out to the menu page at exactly the same time, and for some reason that takes you to the stage selection.
Red Arremer
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Wolf is definitely not subtly different from Fox, he's pretty much entirely different.
No, he's not. Sakura and Ryu both have similar movesets. Wolf and Fox do not. Wolf is the Chun-Li to Fox's Ryu. They share some similar concepts for special moves, but they are entirely different in their normals.
Fox mostly uses his feet for attacking (iirc only his Jab uses his fists), Wolf mostly uses his claws (he has only a few kick moves and all of them are completely different from Fox's equivalents).
Troubled Bat
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Falco will be back.
IntelliHeath
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Same here. They are pretty cool, but I still wish that they would show Takamaru slashed the Logo.
Troubled Bat
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Stahp it, Heath. ;_;
Brainfreeze
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That villager creeps me out, dude.
Nah it's clearly Kirby.
Look at that cute ducker, he knows that he's naked.
Yep, but it's only because Lucario and Mewtwo are Pokémon and their B special is similar.
Lucario also get wrongly blamed for Mewtwo getting dropped when was actually Sonic that did it.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'd say that for Reflector and maaaaybe Fire Wolf/Wolf Shoot, but not for Claw Blaster and Wolf Flash. The only thing similar Claw Blaster has with Blaster is that it uses a gun, and the only thing similar Wolf Flash has with the Illusion is that it goes from point A to point B.
kuroneko0509
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It's probably nothing, but it would be an interesting way to incorporate the GamePad, & it would explain the more jagged movements of Ridley in the Smash Direct.
The Amiibo part also intrigues me, as it would add more incentive to get the figures.
>select attacks using the overlay
i guess he means using touch controls, but doesn't it contradicts with this article?
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-smash-bros-will-not-use-touch-screen-controls
theprodigy
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they're both blue, close enough /s
Red Arremer
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Is that Mario alt the Mario from the 90s Super Mario Bros. movie? lmao
Has this been posted yet? Robin's casting stance is based on the GBA mages.
I give the GBA games a lot of crap, but their animations are far and away the best. Glad they referenced it.
Sure. Now have some more. Again, these may have already been posted.
And a Mother 2 reference just for Mother fans:
sakura's hadoken is a modified ryu's hadoken, sakuras tatsu and dp are modified ryu tatsu/dps
the comparison is apt
OmegaSmash
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Wolf is definitely not subtly different from Fox, he's pretty much entirely different.
No, he's not. Sakura and Ryu both have similar movesets. Wolf and Fox do not. Wolf is the Chun-Li to Fox's Ryu. They share some similar concepts for special moves, but they are entirely different in their normals.
Fox mostly uses his feet for attacking (iirc only his Jab uses his fists), Wolf mostly uses his claws (he has only a few kick moves and all of them are completely different from Fox's equivalents).
I went with Sakura since, just like how Wolf is from the same series as Fox, she's part of the same fight style as Ryu. Though Chun-Li does work as a better substitute in the analogy. Or maybe even Sagat once I think about it.
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Troubled Bat
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Avatar material.
Edit: Screw you, XtaLarge! Lol.
Edit: Screw you, XtaLarge! Lol.
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PadWarrior
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Whenever I use the captain I will always think of Tripon lol
Red Arremer
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Agreed. Sagat works too, though I particularly went with Chun-Li cause she's just extremely different from Ryu in the normals.
The only overlaps are specials (both have a projectile, a spinning kick and a rising punch/kick), but the characters are otherwise entirely different. Heck, Fox even has Chun's lightning kicks and mobility. =p
But Wolf doesn't have the same fighting style as Fox, which is why using 2 shotos as comparison between the two characters is not particularly well picked.
Sure. Now have some more. Again, these may have already been posted.
So THAT'S what Horizon looks like IRL
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Thing is, that would make sense if we're comparing say, PK Fire and PK Freeze, or Mario's Fireball and Luigi's Fireball. Claw Blaster and Blaster has much more changes than simply altering stats/effects, from melee damage to weight and knockback. Same with Wolf Flash.
I concede with Fire Wolf and Reflector, but even then we see Smash reusing the same concept (directional recovery and "defensive").
Green Mamba
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Wolf is unique, but I think you're really overselling it. He's pretty clearly intended to be reminiscent of the other two Star Fox characters.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wolf was in the same boat as Lucas, who started out development as a complete clone and was altered to be more unique when they realized they had more time.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wolf was in the same boat as Lucas, who started out development as a complete clone and was altered to be more unique when they realized they had more time.
Not75Drops
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A bit off-topic but does anyone think we will be able to use the Gamecube adapter for Wii games that use the controller like Brawl?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wasn't Wolf one of the last characters to be added? He must be one lucky dog then.
Troubled Bat
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But he's a wolf.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nintend...42770&skuId=7522006&st=Smash Bros. &cp=1&lp=7
Best buy seems to think we can play brawl w/ the gamecube controller adapter
Wonder if it's a typo and they meant smash for Wii U
Best buy seems to think we can play brawl w/ the gamecube controller adapter
Wonder if it's a typo and they meant smash for Wii U
I remember the speculation pre-Brawl being that Wolf could use some of the heavy weapons from Star Fox Assault. Like the HOMING LAUNCHER, MACHINE GUN, SNIPER RIFLE, GRENADE... not sure if they necessarily fit the more "feral" Wolf we have now. Giving him a heavy weapon instead of a blaster might help diversify him at least. Maybe he could steal some of Snake's moves? Give him Homing Launcher as a new Down B, Grenade as a new Neutral B, call in some Wolfens for a Final Smash and I doubt you'd get any more clone complains.
Go Nintendo has scans of the recent Smash reveal. Lucina wears her Marth Mask! And so does Kirby!
And Go Nintendoalso reports that Best Buy says this about the Gamecube adapter for Wii U. :O
And Go Nintendoalso reports that Best Buy says this about the Gamecube adapter for Wii U. :O
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The Great Gonzales
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I get the sense people use "Wolf is just a Fox clone!" just as an excuse: they think that if anyone is getting cut, it should be Wolf because his moves are superficially the same as Fox's and he's from a series that doesn't seem important enough to have 3 reps. But "he's a clone" is a stronger argument than "he's boring" (even if it's mistaken in this case,) so that's the one people latch onto.
Troubled Bat
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I wasn't going to use it as an avatar.
SpacePirate Ridley
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It's probably nothing, but it would be an interesting way to incorporate the GamePad, & it would explain the more jagged movements of Ridley in the Smash Direct.
The Amiibo part also intrigues me, as it would add more incentive to get the figures.
Yeah right lol
I still can't understand why people are trying to do this. Fun of trolling people I suppose?
I'm still of the opinion Snake's going to make it in, but diversifying the space animals' weapons is always a good idea. I'd probably give Falco the sniper rifle and Wolf the rocket launcher.
OmegaSmash
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You can charge (and aim in some games) Sakura's hadouken, and that's already a big change from Ryu's hadouken. Her tatsumaki is multihit (depending on which version used) and goes on a forward jumping arc while Ryu goes straight forward and is single hit. Sakura's shoryuken has a running start and is multihit, while his isn't.
Sakura's specials, even if they all act and look really different, are clearly inspired by Ryu's specials. Just like how Wolf's B moves are inspired by Fox's moves even if they're different in how they function and appear.
WiiRevolution1
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I accidentally posted this in the Newcomer thread, but wanted to post my thoughts and predictions here.
Still believe the leak, especially because of it saying Wii Fit Trainer and the Sneaky Spirit enemy. I need my Chrous Kids. (And IDK why people say "well, its only the first leak is legit" or something since they are all from the same person. Info is just early and Sakurai & IS came to their senses and didn't use Chrom.)
But, even if no other newcomers I would still be happy. I got my female FE rep, and two at that! Thank you based Sakurai.
Also since I'm here can I ask a question about FE:A since I don't wanna go around digging for its thread? Theres a character called Panne. I used up all her attacks. How do I get more for this character? None of the shops sell a attack for her? Any spotpass map have it? Its the most confusing thing, upto Chapter 10. (I started it on July 1st so perfect timing. Too bad my Robin is named Clara and has short pink hair. Should've stuck to defaut Robin damnit.)
I'm also guessing since she's a clone, that Lucina was supposed to be hidden but IS wanted her announced to drum up hype/advertising.
I did a roster prediction way back and have gotten almost everything wrong (which I'm hapoy for, honesly.) so I want to predict the final newcomers:
Shulk*
Chorus Kids*
Ridley (He's gotta be in lol.)
King K. Rool - Reasoning is that Retro apparantly hate Kremlings, so since Kremlings are in SR that means Sakurai specifically added them...(I rather have Dixie though.
Dark Pit - Seems obvious after Lucina. Especially because Sakurai Bias. :Trollface
6th Mario Rep - I really don't know who, but after FE getting a fourth rep, I think Mario may & Zelda might get a sixth which will probably be clones.
6th Zelda Rep - Either Toon Zelda (My Bet) or Impa. Again, clone unlockables.
Mewtwo - Can't help think of him as a newcomer.
All Brawl characters except for Squartle, Ivysaur, and maybe Snake. Of course it depends on if they cantet him I think.
I don't think Lucas will end up being cut but who knows. Really seems unlikely now.
*Starter character to be revealed before release.
That would give us five newcomers that are unlockable (six with Mewtwo.) which seems like it may be a better variety than Brawl's unlockables which they need.
That would give us a total of 55 characters without Snake or 56 with him. I wonder what that looks like on the character select screen, if it fits hhmm...
Of course, all characters could be unlocked at start and the Gematsu two are the final newcomers. Thats alot of veterans to reveal before 09/14 tho.
Then again, characters like all four FE, Toon Link, Luigi, etc being starter is really interesting. (And they wouldn't reveal them unless they are starters. Dunno why anyone keeps saying differently. Sakurai isn't the stupid MK8 team. Pretty sure 3rd Parties are starters too. No reason for them not to be anymore.)
Of course, I'm probably totally wrong as always >_>
Take one character out, like Lucas, and Snake, then you get 54 characters with a random box matches the CSS. Don't see them removing Lucas now but ya never know...
Thats what I believe, since FE is like Pokemon in that characters keep changing.
Still believe the leak, especially because of it saying Wii Fit Trainer and the Sneaky Spirit enemy. I need my Chrous Kids. (And IDK why people say "well, its only the first leak is legit" or something since they are all from the same person. Info is just early and Sakurai & IS came to their senses and didn't use Chrom.)
But, even if no other newcomers I would still be happy. I got my female FE rep, and two at that! Thank you based Sakurai.
Also since I'm here can I ask a question about FE:A since I don't wanna go around digging for its thread? Theres a character called Panne. I used up all her attacks. How do I get more for this character? None of the shops sell a attack for her? Any spotpass map have it? Its the most confusing thing, upto Chapter 10. (I started it on July 1st so perfect timing. Too bad my Robin is named Clara and has short pink hair. Should've stuck to defaut Robin damnit.)
I'm also guessing since she's a clone, that Lucina was supposed to be hidden but IS wanted her announced to drum up hype/advertising.
I did a roster prediction way back and have gotten almost everything wrong (which I'm hapoy for, honesly.) so I want to predict the final newcomers:
Shulk*
Chorus Kids*
Ridley (He's gotta be in lol.)
King K. Rool - Reasoning is that Retro apparantly hate Kremlings, so since Kremlings are in SR that means Sakurai specifically added them...(I rather have Dixie though.
Dark Pit - Seems obvious after Lucina. Especially because Sakurai Bias. :Trollface
6th Mario Rep - I really don't know who, but after FE getting a fourth rep, I think Mario may & Zelda might get a sixth which will probably be clones.
6th Zelda Rep - Either Toon Zelda (My Bet) or Impa. Again, clone unlockables.
Mewtwo - Can't help think of him as a newcomer.
All Brawl characters except for Squartle, Ivysaur, and maybe Snake. Of course it depends on if they cantet him I think.
I don't think Lucas will end up being cut but who knows. Really seems unlikely now.
*Starter character to be revealed before release.
That would give us five newcomers that are unlockable (six with Mewtwo.) which seems like it may be a better variety than Brawl's unlockables which they need.
That would give us a total of 55 characters without Snake or 56 with him. I wonder what that looks like on the character select screen, if it fits hhmm...
Of course, all characters could be unlocked at start and the Gematsu two are the final newcomers. Thats alot of veterans to reveal before 09/14 tho.
Then again, characters like all four FE, Toon Link, Luigi, etc being starter is really interesting. (And they wouldn't reveal them unless they are starters. Dunno why anyone keeps saying differently. Sakurai isn't the stupid MK8 team. Pretty sure 3rd Parties are starters too. No reason for them not to be anymore.)
Of course, I'm probably totally wrong as always >_>
Take one character out, like Lucas, and Snake, then you get 54 characters with a random box matches the CSS. Don't see them removing Lucas now but ya never know...
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IntelliHeath
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OmegaSmash
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He needs her glorious and flowing hair though!
PadWarrior
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Oooo maybe vc gamecube games? Hope it works for brawl
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
that's the joke
Wolf Flash is one of Wolf's best moves though so removing it would be a downgrade.
I wouldn't mind him using heavy weapons but his feral style is so distinct. I'd argue that Claw Blaster is a feral Blaster
I get that. I just think that they're varied enough that they can be considered different. I mean, everyone else uses guns and projectiles for B and has "horizontal movement" for side B. They might be inspired, but unlike hadouken variations, they made it so that they can be called as a different move. Like, if it wasn't Wolf using the Claw Blaster, people wouldn't think of it as an inspired move, if you get my drift.
Also technically Sakura's hurricane kick is Shippuu Kyaku and dragon punch is Shouou Ken
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