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[Sakura]

One thing I disagree with in here is people counting out the Halo collection's impact this fall. I really think that game will be the highest selling exclusive of the year and will move a significant amount of consoles.

It's going to be a rough one for Xbox until they make it to the fall release season, and it'll be really interesting to see how things shake out this holiday.

I think the Halo release will sell quite well.
But I'm not convinced it will move a ton of hardware.
In my mind most major Halo fans already have an Xbox One. While I do think hardware sales will increase that month, I don't think it will be significantly more than this month.

 

[Aquamarine]

It sold 170k with no games, so that's good.

Yeah, I don't know where you're getting that number.

Xbox One USA sales so far have been:

November - 909K
December - 908K
January - 141K
February - 258K
March - 311K
April - 115K
May - 77K

And shipments have been:

Through December 31st - 3.9 million
Through March 31st - 5.1 million

Nowhere in that list do we have a 170K figure.

My predictions dead was once again. July should be a worse month than June, right? 4 weeks and all. Long year ahead for MS.

Undoubtedly.

This is the price cut month for Microsoft. So all of the demand from that + the E3 boost + 5 weeks of tracking will have tapered off in July.

IMO it is. It's the consumers console, the most powerful console, the "every experience is ether here" console, etc. There's not really a huge library of games to sell it.

The "superior version for 3rd party games" angle is also heavily contributing to its sales.

Microsoft messed up big time by crafting an underpowered machine.

 

[fedexpeon]

Dammit X1...I always believed in you, and kept predicting 150K+ units every month, when will you make me look good?
Apr/May were so bad that I glad PS4 didn't win it by that "much".
/cry

 

[SDCowboy]

Fascinating.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

How do you explain the fact that a significant share of software sales is coming from the PS4, then?

Your argument is nonsense.

Because more people own the PS4 and a lot of people buy multiplats on it?

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

One thing I disagree with in here is people counting out the Halo collection's impact this fall. I really think that game will be the highest selling exclusive of the year and will move a significant amount of consoles.

It's going to be a rough one for Xbox until they make it to the fall release season, and it'll be really interesting to see how things shake out this holiday.

It will sell fine but it's not having a major impact whatsoever

 

[Sakura]

IMO it is. It's the consumers console, the most powerful console, the "every experience is ether here" console, etc. There's not really a huge library of games to sell it.

But... the same could be said about the XBO right now.

 

[hawk2025]

Because more people own the PS4 and a lot of people buy multiplats on it?

Which completely contradicts your point. Directly.

Your logic is completely circular.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

One thing I disagree with in here is people counting out the Halo collection's impact this fall. I really think that game will be the highest selling exclusive of the year and will move a significant amount of consoles.

It's going to be a rough one for Xbox until they make it to the fall release season, and it'll be really interesting to see how things shake out this holiday.

Could very well sell great but there's just as much chance of it being the best selling exclusive this year as there is a chance LBP3 could make a killing from the family audience at Chrimbo and DriveClub to go down a storm in NA and Europe.

Decent chances for all three imo

 

[Yawnier]

Serious question - Do you guys think that the XB1 will ever out sell the PS4 this generation in NA? Or globally for that matter?

If I had to I guess I would say it will be like the PS3 and 360 last generation but with Sony's and Microsoft's roles switched around in NA. The 360 sold more most of the time when people stopped buying the Wii en masse as it was the console "to own" for many people, however there were months here and there like with the GTA V bundle where the PS3 sold more than the 360.

 

[Proxy]

I think the moon is the next launch target.

That sweet, sweet moon market.

 

[Ricky_R]

I wonder where's Dynopia. I remember seeing him pretty active in PS3/360, or sales in general, threads.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Damnit, my XBO #s were off by at least 30k. I'm also starting to doubt Wii U outsold it. That would be a ridiculously massive boost for Wii U right?

But... the same could be said about the XBO right now.

Hey? HEY?! .....Let him dream.

March - 311K

They sold that many in March? Wow.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

But... the same could be said about the XBO right now.

I know. But if you are looking to buy a next gen console just to own one, people will lean toward the one that has the best public image.

 

[Striek]

Better than doing nothing but its not an inspiring "recovery". I truly think they need to undercut the PS4 in price as its seen as the more desirable platform at the moment.

One thing I disagree with in here is people counting out the Halo collection's impact this fall. I really think that game will be the highest selling exclusive of the year and will move a significant amount of consoles.

It's going to be a rough one for Xbox until they make it to the fall release season, and it'll be really interesting to see how things shake out this holiday.

Probably the highest selling, but this year isn't really packed with big name exclusives. Destiny is going to run trains on it and everything else this year thats not CoD, IMO.

 

[hawk2025]

I know. But if you are looking to buy a next gen console just to own one, people will lean toward the one that has the best public image.

If people are buying a new console just to own one, why is the software selling?

 

[IAmRandom31]

Which completely contradicts your point. Directly.

Your logic is completely circular.

When people say the PS4 has no games they actually mean it has a ton of games but no massive system selling exclusives. But the X1 supposedly does ... Except the big system selling exclusives aren't selling systems. So ... * shrug *

 

[Dragonborn]

If I had to I guess I would say it will be like the PS3 and 360 last generation but with Sony's and Microsoft's roles switched around in NA. The 360 sold more most of the time when people stopped buying the Wii en masse as it was the console "to own" for many people, however there were months here and there like with the GTA V bundle where the PS3 sold more than the 360.

So maybe MS will land GTAVI marketing and get a bundle that will end the PS4's streak sometime between today and 2024.

When people say the PS4 has no games they actually mean it has a ton of games but no massive system selling exclusives. But the X1 supposedly does ... Except the big system selling exclusives aren't selling systems. So ... * shrug *

The biggest issue I see if people placing way too much worth on Exclusives. Outside GT, Mainline Halo, and Nintendo's big franchises, there's isn't really a big system selling exclusive for either.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

When people say the PS4 has no games they actually mean it has a ton of games but no massive system selling exclusives. But the X1 supposedly does ... Except the big system selling exclusives aren't selling systems. So ... * shrug *

They're pretty evenly matched for exclusives this year, with TLOU:R, DriveClub and LBP3 matching out Halo Collection, FH2 and Sunset Overdrive.

The difference being, as has been from the start, is that Xbox loses out on indie titles and f2p titles. Or, there just isn't as much releasing on the Xbone compared to the PS4 each month.

Which come to think of it could also be a factor why PS4 is selling significantly better.

 

[SDCowboy]

edit: nevermind

 

[Welfare]

How is it dead on? Looks high compared to most others (PS4 is low too).

Oh no, not saying it's dead on, saying it's dead, as in, I was wrong.

 

[EL CUCO]

I know people that bought a PS4 on E3 week just to play Destiny. I suspect there was more people that did the same. Tomorrow is going to be a blood bath.

 

[Dunlop]

IMO it is. It's the consumers console, the most powerful console, the "every experience is ether here" console, etc. There's not really a huge library of games to sell it.

I cannot see any other reason, I'm happy I got an crazy deal on my PS4 but it is pretty much unused until destiny arrives (last used it for Infamous)

It is almost a joke now that my PS3 is used daily for it't media features, NHL14 and some PS+ stuff.

I don't really get why anyone would cheer-lead one over the other at this moment

 

[ProvenDeadly]

They're pretty evenly matched for exclusives this year, with TLOU:R, DriveClub and LBP3 matching out Halo Collection, FH2 and Sunset Overdrive.

The difference being, as has been from the start, is that Xbox loses out on indie titles and f2p titles. Or, there just isn't as much releasing on the Xbone compared to the PS4 each month.

Which come to think of it could also be a factor why PS4 is selling significantly better.

I also think the long tail of the hype train could be added to that.

 

[reptilescorpio]

When does NPD hit this month?

 

[GoofsterStud]

The Xbox One hasn't launched in Japan yet either. We could be seeing some big WW numbers come September and the gap will narrow.

Exactly... Japan will save the Xbox. Glad it's come to this.

 

[SDCowboy]

The Xbox One hasn't launched in Japan yet either. We could be seeing some big WW numbers come September and the gap will narrow.

ROFL...wait are you being serious?

 

[Anth0ny]

Yeah... Doubling May is not that great.

PS4>XB1 in June would be fucking crazy.

 

[ambientmystic]

When does NPD hit this month?

Tomorrow.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

I think the moon is the next launch target.

No, they're sending them up to Mars before we send all those people. Sony might be winning world wide, but MS will be #1 in in extraterrestrial sales!

 

[hawk2025]

I cannot see any other reason, I'm happy I got an crazy deal on my PS4 but it is pretty much unused until destiny arrives (last used it for Infamous)

It is almost a joke now that my PS3 is used daily for it't media features, NHL14 and some PS+ stuff.

I don't really get why anyone would cheer-lead one over the other at this moment

All you have to do to see "the reason" is look at the software sales.

...I'm having a hard time distinguishing between people with terrible data analysis skills and people being purposefully obtuse.

 

[KingGreasy]

Xbox 360 sales:


June 2006 - 277K

June 2007 - 198K

June 2008 - 220K

June 2009 - 241K

June 2010 - 452K

June 2011 - 507K

June 2012 - 257K

June 2013 - 141K


If Microsoft really could only manage like 150-160K this month, that's fundamentally underwhelming in comparison to the precedent set by Xbox 360.

They really should have managed more sellthrough this month. Is the lack of interest indicative of a flawed value proposition?

What's the numbers for the PS3/PS4?

I've been thinking that since they had a ton more stock day 1 than previous console generations it would be harder to judge subsequent months with previous generations becuase early adopters, rather than being spread out over months as supply comes in, are now more clustered in around release day making the subsequent months after launch less substantial.

 

[Codeblew]

Man you guys are delirious

I read it as him saying that it would sell better than MCC, not the PS4 version of Destiny. I guess I assumed he wasn't crazy. In retrospect, that may not be a good assumption to make on a video game message board.

Edit: Very late to post this.

 

[ForsakenLotus]

I'm not trying to proclaim doom and gloom here, but at what point does Microsoft feel they need to start doing drastic things? Phil seems like the perfect guy to lead Xbox, so I think they are on the right track. I just really, really don't want Microsoft to feel like they need to start buying some big profile third party exclusives.

 

[Dunlop]

All you have to do to see "the reason" is look at the software sales.

...I'm having a hard time distinguishing between people with terrible data analysis skills and people being purposefully obtuse.

Which is the hype argument no?

Why would a regular consumer care that COD sold more on the PS4 than XB1? They care that the system has the games that they want to play.

 

[hawk2025]

Which is the hype argument no?

Why would a regular consumer care that COD sold more on the PS4 than XB1? They care that the system has the games that they want to play.

...what?

You will have to elaborate.

 

[onanie]

Which completely contradicts your point. Directly.

Your logic is completely circular.

You are not supposed to play multiplatform and indie games.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

I know. But if you are looking to buy a next gen console just to own one, people will lean toward the one that has the best public image.

That's...not the reason most people buy next-gen consoles.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Will be interesting to see how PS4 sales are this month now. If they're holding steady from last month, then that means it's selling 60% more than the Xbox One in the US, during their price cut month.

I sort of expected this, the next few months will be interesting to say the least once the effects of the price cut start to attenuate a bit.

 

[0ptimusPayne]

The Xbox One hasn't launched in Japan yet either. We could be seeing some big WW numbers come September and the gap will narrow.

If the PS4 is "struggling" to sell in Japan, what makes you think that the X1 will sell there?

 

[Sandfox]

I'm curious to see where MS goes from here.

 

[Aquamarine]

Will be interesting to see how PS4 sales are this month now. If they're holding steady from last month, then that means it's selling 60% more than the Xbox One in the US, during their price cut month.

I sort of expected this, the next few months will be interesting to say the least once the effects of the price cut start to attenuate a bit.

Current retail indications are that they're somewhat steady.

So yeah, PS4 should be >200K easily.

 

[BananaSprinkles]

If the PS4 is "struggling" to sell in Japan, what makes you think that the X1 will sell there?

I think he was being sarcastic.

 

[SwiftDeath]

People, Neuromancer is like a lite version of Benny_a

I of course mean that in the best way possible

 

[reptilescorpio]

Tomorrow.

Awesome, thanks!

 

[chubigans]

It blows my mind that people buy and sell consoles that quickly.

Me too. Like this for instance. I mean jeez...

But hey, whatever I guess.

 

[IAmRandom31]

You are not supposed to play multiplatform and indie games.

Yes, and the system has games but it has games you can play elsewhere. Except yeah Ps4 may have the higher framerate sometimes and higher native resolutions and exclusive DLC and the sharing and streaming and all that ... But it's the same experience ... Only not. So if you ignore the exclusives and the indies and the F2P and the MMOs and close your eyes to the differences and ignore the exclusive content ... ps4 def. hath no gameZ

Until Bloodborne. Then PS4 will hath a game. Let it be known

 

[hawk2025]

Me too. Like this for instance. I mean jeez...

But hey, whatever I guess.

lol


He will never change.

 

[A_Gorilla]

Like I said, the PS4 is the cool console to own. Everyone wanted the Xbox to flop because of their anti consumer policies, meanwhile the Sony was the consumer friendly company.

lol at the stealth with way this Jr is saying "ps4 has no games!"

 

[Yawnier]

So maybe MS will land GTAVI marketing and get a bundle that will end the PS4's streak sometime between today and 2024.

Probably something along those lines or some big exclusive like Halo 5, Gears.

Me too. Like this for instance. I mean jeez...

But hey, whatever I guess.

Read his tag lolol