2014 Espy Awards (live now!)
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yeah he did have a historical year. it was the biggest superbowl blowout since 1993. unfortunately for peypey he doesn't own the broncos superbowl record for biggest blowout though
That record rightly belongs to Elway. Better to make it and lose, then to never have gone at all. I'm sure the feeling is fresh for you as well.
Some virgin who managed to throw footballs to Demariyus Thomas and ended up taking over some show called Sportscenter for 3 years because he prays on the field
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we were on the road to a broncos style beating and then our team showed some heart. kap would've won the game but he wanted to be a good role model for the kids and show them that sometimes losing everything is the only way you can win it all. Colin Kaepernick stars as Alex Smith in Phoenix Rising 2: The Alex Smith Story
BlackGhost
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He was one of the greatest. Only stories are left now though, only Stories.
WesternHeretic
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I hope Kaep keeps up the good work this year. Everyone calls him out for his thuggery, but really he has no thuggery he's a good dude. And being such a good dude he's going to let Seattle bend him over again because like you said he's a good dude!
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First espy that I watched. Doesn't have production of oscars, but drake was good. He needs a better writer. The Macklemore joke was funny. Michael Sam story was long.
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they call him out for "thuggery" because he's a young guy who likes to have fun, never meanin nobody no harm! meanwhile, good christian boy wussle talks a big game from the good book but then divorces his wife before he gets his big pay day so he can sleep around with STD infested hookers! what a shame
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
I'm late but damn, that Stuart Scott speech was powerful.
I really loved his quote "You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, and the manner in which you live."
Powerful and inspirational stuff. Fuck Cancer.
edit: also glad that joe dude who keeps shitting up sports threads with 'thug' bullshit has been dispatched of
I really loved his quote "You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, and the manner in which you live."
Powerful and inspirational stuff. Fuck Cancer.
edit: also glad that joe dude who keeps shitting up sports threads with 'thug' bullshit has been dispatched of
Two things that helped Peyton:
His line, and his insanely good (until it mattered in the super bowl) receivers.
and Strength of Schedule(lowest % at the start of the 2013 season):
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What Peyton did was cool and all, but Tim Tebow performed in that offense. Too much credit is going to Peyton, he's a fantasy dream, but he's not the same Peyton anymore.
The Superbowl was lost on the line, they got beat to hell. Not by the WRs, guys were coming open in the secondary, there just wasn't time to throw. Watch the mauling that happened to this guy:
And get back to me.
As far as SoS. We can only play who we are setup to play. We beat the teams they put in front of us, and handily at times. It's easily skewed one way or another by really bad teams, or really good teams.
To say that Tebow performed in that offense is a joke. They are two separate, distinctly different offenses. You can't really peg it as a 'Denver' offense. One offense was based around the run and the option, with the occasional throw here and there. Where the other is largely air based. They are really nothing alike. I loved Tebow for the season he gave us, but he wasn't productive in terms of raw numbers. I find it hard to see where he's not the Peyton of old, when he just had the best season arguably of his career. Outside of the SB (thanks for the reminder FMT).
Yet you stabbed Tiny Hands in the back!
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MiamiWesker
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Wtf am I reading, Peyton is not the same?! That offense was beautiful to watch, yes they have great players but he runs the offense. He is practically the offense of coordinator, he is the smartest player in football, and he still can make impossible throws. It was the best year he has ever had.
You talk an awful lot about one game for a "best athlete" award.The Superbowl was lost on the line, they got beat to hell. Not by the WRs, guys were coming open in the secondary, there just wasn't time to throw. Watch the mauling that happened to this guy:
And get back to me.
As far as SoS. We can only play who we are setup to play. We beat the teams they put in front of us, and handily at times. It's easily skewed one way or another by really bad teams, or really good teams.
To say that Tebow performed in that offense is a joke. They are two separate, distinctly different offenses. You can't really peg it as a 'Denver' offense. One offense was based around the run and the option, with the occasional throw here and there. Where the other is largely air based. They are really nothing alike. I loved Tebow for the season he gave us, but he wasn't productive in terms of raw numbers. I find it hard to see where he's not the Peyton of old, when he just had the best season arguably of his career. Outside of the SB (thanks for the reminder FMT).
Peyton's arm strength is weaker, he's slower, and when his best game was matched by Tony Romo, who played against a harder defense that game, he's not the same Peyton.
What Peyton did was remarkable, and there's reason he got that lifetime acheivement record thing from the espys, but dude isnt the best athlete, he's not even the best athlete in the nfl. FMT's boy is a better overall athlete.
Peyton being the best football player is a totally different conversation.
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I put both drake songs on my iphone
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Drake sucks dick. You should listen to that kap "I'm the man" Elton John rip off using your beats by dre
I think you are downplaying how hard it is to be a QB in the NFL.
You do not just throw 55TDs out of your fucking ass lol.
He put together a very complete season from start to finish, even with injury (sprained ankles for several weeks, you can see the decline in the numbers). He's always been slow, and his arm has never been that great.
His best game wasn't against Romo, imo it was against the Ravens. 7 TDs, no picks, 462 yards, 64% comp %. The Dallas game was a fun shootout though, with no defense being played whatsoever.
Athlete doesn't just encompass physicality. It's a blend of characteristics that make a whole, skill, physical talent, creativity, intelligence, etc. The reward isn't just for the most impressive physical specimen, if it was then why the hell did Dree Brees win it? Or Tiger Woods or Barry Bonds? Because it is just more than being a purely physical athlete. No argument that Kap is a better built physical specimen, is he a better athlete than Peyton at this point in his career? I don't think so, but he can certain grow into it.
Again, you went football player on that.
I hate being this guy but:
Peyton has none of those qualities compared to the other nominees since his neck injury.
My argument is strictly about being an athlete. I'd bet money that Peyton couldn't run a mile at this point in his career. He can barely get out of the pocket. His arm strength is one of the worst in the league as a starter and he's never been agile.
He's definitely the most intelligent offensive player in the nfl, and him destroying Brady's TD record was awesome, but again, his sport is a team game, where the other nominees can perform solo and stand out as athletes.
Peyton isn't even the best athlete on his own team, both Thomas and a few defensive guys are better athletes.
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I didn't know Stuart Scott had cancer
Your definition of an athlete isn't encompassing. It's a shallow definition based a purely physical argument. To which I stated that people that have won the award in the past aren't pure physical athletes. Is Dree Brees a world class athlete? No. He's roughly the same guy Peyton is, actually smaller and less athletic. Is Tiger a world class athlete? Definitely not, he is immensely skilled and talented, but he'd be outclassed physically by Lebron in just about everything.
You are missing the nuance in your textbook definition. Skill and training. You can have all the raw physical characteristics in the world, but if you don't have the skill and the training, you are not an athlete. Combine these with intangibles, things which you can't necessarily measure, such as the characteristics I listed prior, and you have a more complete, more reality based idea of what encompasses an athlete.
As far as being the purest physical talent on the team, he isn't. He is the best athlete on the team though, hands down.
Plus Peyton can dunk, so fuck your argument! (As witnessed by Julius Thomas).
I'm going to bed now.
tiggerkiddo
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Seeing those SuperBowl highlights still hurts.
Glorious stories that will live for eons.
Whats fucked up is I was looking for Gifs of Tebows epic bootleg against the Jets in 2011 that won them the game but all I got was Tebowing.
I couldn't find a .GIF even with his game winning playoff TD pass to Demariyus Thomas against the Steelers in 2011.
Despite the lack of .GIFs the story will be told by word for eons to come.
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