Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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Yup. This has been know since e3 actually. Now lets hope ike benefits from this too lol
totes magotes
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Mainly because Rhythm Heaven and WarioWare are made by the same people, though I'd guess the Chorus Kids wouldnt have the jerky style since it makes Wario more unique.
HawthorneKitty
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Can villager do this?
i didn't notice this at all. idk what to think about it tbh. might be too much of a buff. as if fox needed more benefits
http://smashboards.com/threads/game...loading-times-new-demo-in-circulation.361443/
Smashboards is talking about that, speculating possible new demo build or something.
Because Ridley was in 7 Metroid games and Kraid was in three. Mother Brain and Dark Samus were also in three, but they were main antagonists, not flunkies.
Also, that's not Kraid, that's fake Kraid. The original Metroid also had a fake Kraid. Real Kraid was only small in the original Metroid (Not that it really matters).
But fox isn't good like melee fox. S4 fox is much more similar to brawl fox. Shine is garbage, can't jump out of shine, up-smash nerfed, etc.
OricWindstar
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That was my first thought. I didn't expect to be that long of a wait in the final build, but to see it already that immediate is great.
That's a drastic improvement from the Best Buy demo. It felt like there was actual slowdown once the game said time, like that the game wasn't running well. So I'm glad to see that be fixed, though I figured it would be.
Amazeballs
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Melee Fox is boring to watch anyhow. Too many KO for dummies combos.
I liked the transition in the E3 build, but you can't argue with better load times.
They're two months from release, and games are usually complete a month before release during which they go through certification. Any footage released from now until release will likely be from more optimized builds.
Cosmic Dreams
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you guys think this is a new build? maybe its just me, but the characters seem to move more...fluidly. or quicker. idk the physics look better!
This isn't a matter of taking liberties. It's a matter of Rob Liefeld proportions.
It's very likely that the E3 build was quite old by the time people got their hands on it.
Melee fox is one of the most technical and interesting fighting game characters in existence, but okay, opinions and all that.
OricWindstar
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A lot of people in the Smashboards thread are commenting it does seem to have some differences. Not sure if it's wishful thinking or actual change, but they keep mentioning Mario as being one of the characters with little landing lag, so I'm a happy camper.
sorakirosaki
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lol ill just respect that and just go on my way lol
foxuzamaki
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In most cases, artists contort or exaggerate body parts on purpose.
3-4 months from release on the Wii U version, and for what it's worth the 3DS version never glitched up on anyone while I was there at the demo, though the Wii U did a couple of times. But yeah, I'm expecting the game to be more and more optimized as we see more demos.
That said, I wish they'd have the demos say, in big, huge capital letters "FINAL SMASH IS NOW DONE BY HOLDING SPECIAL. HOLDING. YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT." This change screwed up everyone who played the game and is the reason most the people playing it didn't manage to get their final smash off.
white dynamite
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At 1:15, Fox does his side-B off the stage and still recovers?? What the fuck is this?!
foxuzamaki
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Fox unlocked his true power
Cosmic Dreams
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A lot of people in the Smashboards thread are commenting it does seem to have some differences. Not sure if it's wishful thinking or actual change, but they keep mentioning Mario as being one of the characters with little landing lag, so I'm a happy camper.
thats awesome! i really really hope they took the fan's consideration and made a new build that shows the improvements over the last E3 one. it seems like (and this is IF they made a new build) a step in the right direction. hoping for the best by release.
Zevenberge
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Would it be likely that the 3DS and Wii U version have different physics? I.e. that the 3DS is closer to Brawl while the Wii U is closer to Melee?
foxuzamaki
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Possibly, it really feels like they are still working on physics and balancing even after the 3DS release, atleast thats the impression im getting, I wouldnt be surprised if changes were made once the WiiU version is out
Amazeballs
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I thought Japan was getting the Wii U version September. Guess I'm mistaken.
You have to hold the special button? That messes with the timing. Why not allow players to activate it by pressing both special and normal at the same time?
What is the purpose of her fucked-up torso proportions?
It's not exaggerated art. It's more likely the artist just made a mistake, as many do with human proportions.
pikachu's thunder spikes donkey kong in this video, did it do that in other games?
Japan (and those of us throwing away $250 to play the game 3 weeks early) get the 3DS version on September 13th.
And yeah. On one hand it does fuck up timing a bit, though I wonder how it'll affect characters like Meta Knight. The only characters in the demo who I used the final smash with-Megaman and Mario-don't have final smashes that require super-precise positioning. On the flipside, it means characters can still use neutral special while having the Smash Ball.
Troubled Bat
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Nope, exclusive to this Smash.
Cosmic Dreams
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eh, i would hope so! but, would it be easy for someone to hack the demo's files and find anything? if so, Nintendo would probably be cautious about it.
OricWindstar
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At least in this demo, it seems like a lot of characters have certain aerials that have landing lag and others that don't. So, hopefully if this is the same in the final game, it becomes a major part of strategy as to which aerials you use when, more so than in past games. Almost like l-canceling is automatically applied to some moves.
I also am totally not a pro player, so feel free to tear apart what I just said.
I'd be there everyday if it were to happen.
Yeah that stood out to me too and pleases me. Granted, items are on and its free for all but that was the trend I was noticing all throughout. Makes me happy as that was my biggest beef with a lot of the E3 footage.
SkullHydra
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Oh my gosh, how have I not heard about this?! This is fantastic! I can't tell you how many times I've used a Final Smash without even meaning to...
Cosmic Dreams
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At least in this demo, it seems like a lot of characters have certain aerials that have landing lag and others that don't. So, hopefully if this is the same in the final game, it becomes a major part of strategy as to which aerials you use when, more so than in past games. Almost like l-canceling is automatically applied to some moves.
I also am totally not a pro player, so feel free to tear apart what I just said.
Sounds more "brawl-like" in theory from how you're explaining it when you explain "aerials" like that. Which i'm all for since it seems to balance out how some characters might handle as some may have longer cool-downs in their attacks. Keeps things more even amongst players who can combo better than others.
If anything, lets hope they keep the aerial game balanced...for Little Mac's sake. lol
No worries though, i'm probably worse at this game than you are!
I only play smash for fun!
NeonZ
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I guess Sakurai's words pretty much kill the idea that he wouldn't include actual costumes based on other characters. So, aside from clones, we could actually get something like an actual Daisy costume for Peach (rather than just colors/dress) this time.
Lucina being a costume and later character could explain that though. Marth and Lucina share the same outfit in Awakening, so you wouldn't give it to Marth if you were planning to add Lucina somehow.
Lucina being a costume and later character could explain that though. Marth and Lucina share the same outfit in Awakening, so you wouldn't give it to Marth if you were planning to add Lucina somehow.
oh, sweet
SkullHydra
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Ooooooh... those are amazing.
So, I may be late here, but didja guys hear the Gamestop rumor? According to it, not only is the Wii U version releasing on November 21, but every game will include a free Amiibo figure.
Man, if this is true, there go my plans to get the game digital, demolished just like that.
Man, if this is true, there go my plans to get the game digital, demolished just like that.
And risk two people just playing to test out moves and taking ages to end their go? Two minutes ensures they get their time and then they're off.
SliceSabre
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Exactly they wanted everyone to make sure they got a turn to play rather than just letting 2-4 people hog it until they felt satisfied.
kuroneko0509
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From what I've heard, never trust on gamestop manager rumour
Ninka_kiwi
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Anyone besides me think that Lucina is kinda of boring? I dunno if anyone remembers but during Melee's development, Sakurai intended to add Leif in as a clone of Marth, but was kicked in favor of Roy due to fire making his attacks look more interesting and visually distinct. The same could be said about Lucina, she's just nothing interesting due to her lack of any interesting features and her only draw is easy mode Marth.
Still kinda salty that Chrom couldn't be implemented in a way that wasn't a final smash as his design is one of my favorites in Awakening. I'm a-okay with Robin being playable though, as I love Robin's design and moveset. Still dunno how I feel about the Levin sword getting broken if it's supposed to be your fall back.. hopefully the bronze sword isn't too terrible.
Still kinda salty that Chrom couldn't be implemented in a way that wasn't a final smash as his design is one of my favorites in Awakening. I'm a-okay with Robin being playable though, as I love Robin's design and moveset. Still dunno how I feel about the Levin sword getting broken if it's supposed to be your fall back.. hopefully the bronze sword isn't too terrible.
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