Vermillion
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You would bet money even though Superior Iron Man is confirmed to be Tony?
Sam Wilson (The Falcon) is the New Captain America
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You would bet money even though Superior Iron Man is confirmed to be Tony?
His Son, Eli Bradley aka Patriot, is one of my most favourite characters. I hope they give him a new series soon. Or put him in a Young Avengers movie.
Angelus Errare
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Namor
*runs*
Namor's dad is white as snow and his mom is blue.
Skinny Pete
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Yea this is terrible. I'm expecting gay iron man next.
Iron Fist is quite white
The only issue I have with this is the melding of two superhero identities and it kinda clashes. He's l
still the Falcon but he's also Captain America? Feels weird. Seems like the shield would get in the way of his wings given how they work with his arms.
But of course, if flight was part of your normal skill set would you give it up? I sure as hell wouldn't.
still the Falcon but he's also Captain America? Feels weird. Seems like the shield would get in the way of his wings given how they work with his arms.
But of course, if flight was part of your normal skill set would you give it up? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Hush, just take his bet.
We'll see...
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Still with the ridiculous goggles.
Marvel pls.
Marvel pls.
Haloid1177
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Eh, not really excited about this, always found Falcon to be kinda boring. Would have preferred Bucky take the mantle back, since the Bucky Cap run was one of my favorites in the modern era.
PhantomZone
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Will be interested to see how the writing will stand up with the change, hopefully they can go from strength to strength.
WanderingWind
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I like what they're doing with the books being largely lenghty mini-series and shaking up the status quo a bit. It's really lead to some of the best stuff in the past 30 plus years. Daredevil is transcendent, Hawkeye was great until the creative team got too rockstar and stopped making the damn book and the reboots of Defenders and Capt Marvel were excellent.
Basically, the publicity stunts are sort of working.
Wolfe
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Oh great, now even Iron Man is white.
I wouldn't put it past them to have Superior Iron Man be Tony the same way Superior Spider-man was Peter.
TwEE-N-Toast
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What the fuck is going on? I hate that there is a million versions of each super hero now, it gets so convoluted.
Is that Deathlok Michael Collins? Why is he a smooth skin now? Can't say Im a fan of his new look.
And Angela is now a Marvel character? What the fudge.
I'm going to go complain to somebody.
ManDudeChild
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Beyond Sam Wilson being a friend of Capt America aside, how does this make sense? Does he actually get the serum? If not, wouldn't say Luke Cage have a power-set closer to Capt America.
I will be 200% behind this if he says falcon punch in the first issue.
I will be 200% behind this if he says falcon punch in the first issue.
ManDudeChild
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Yeah .... Bucky actually makes sense. This does not.
Bucky doenst have any powers, too.
Finaika
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I thought people said Cap could dodge bullets & stuff with ease?!
Well, he can't when his back is turned because he's running away like a scared tiny schoolboy.
radios shipping overview
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At least get it right.
Judge Dredd?
Finaika
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Then why didn't he put his shield on his back like he always do?!
Zantetsuken
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Comics dont make sense to me. How can others become the same super hero?
Vermillion
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How much are we betting?
Maybe he was so scared that he forgot?
I mean, I read here on GAF that he's the smartest strategist ever, so... maybe it's part of his "Flee-in-terror"-strategy?
Its a comic. Writer can decide to make their characters do stupid stuff.
AbsolutBro
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Something something it's the shield and idea, not the man.
IMO, this is a dumb move. Not because "OH MY GOD IT'S A BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!", but because all it does is continue to relegate various groups to second class characters. Sure, he's got the name of Captain America, but just like Bucky before him no one is going to look at Falcon America and think "totally the right guy". It also is tacit admittance by Marvel that they either can't or won't write their existing characters interestingly enough to get their own series, and that they can't create interesting NEW characters for various under represented groups.
Joke entry: Does Fin Fang Foom count as an asian character?
I'm not a comics fan, but with the exception of Deathlok in general, and Captain American uniform (both looks quite ridiculous), the rest are really great designs.
Special kudos to whomever created white Iron Man and new Thor. Their silhouette are unique and easily discernible, and the attires are simplistic but quite effective. I never cared much for male Thor style, but this new one is memorable. Just disappointing that they didn't make her at least as tall as the males and her breast plate a single piece. She would be perfect then.
MaxwellGames
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So they are making all of these character changes. But, you all know damn well that it will go back to status quo before Avengers 2 comes out.
....what?
"Steve can't be Cap anymore. The Falcon, who was his partner for years, takes the mantle."
What's nonsensical about that?
Superhero titles function as mantles as well as individual names.
Multiple people have been Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Spider-Man, Green Lantern, Phoenix, Green Arrow, Ant-Man, Ms. Marvel, Captain America, Blue Beetle, etc. in the comics.
I'm not Gladiator, and Falcon taking his place makes sense to me in general, but Cap "losing the super soldier serum" does seem kinda nonsensical. It's not the kind of thing that just stays swimming around in your body, generally. You take a drug or a hormone or something and it affects a change, either temporary or permanent, but that's it. Seems weird.
We are, of course, talking comic book super science where you can't bring complete scientific accuracy, but sometimes things cross the line where we are able to suspend that disbelief. The line's in a different place for everyone.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Marvel is starting to remind me of 90s dc when they were replacing all of their characters.
It was a tad more interesting 20 years ago when it hadn't been done before though.
It was a tad more interesting 20 years ago when it hadn't been done before though.
AbsolutBro
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For like three seconds my brain went "Holy shit, Jean Grey is back!" then I realized that's Medusa. Either way, interesting line up. Bringing back Deathlok is like 'what the fuck did they smoke before digging him up?'.The future....
She was pretty important towards the end of Whedon's run on Astonishing I thought?
I will never understand why people don't seem to realize you can't and don't fuck with the Phoenix Force. It can literally pluck timelines out of existence. What the fuck does Tony think he's going to tinker up that can actually do something about that?
I get they're not A-List, but really the only way to get that status is to be used. Better to earn it in their own books than playing second fiddle and trying to branch off that way again. Doesn't usually end well.
Huh, I am behind. This isn't Soorya/Dust is it? Someone new?
Apparently I REALLY need to catch up on my comics. Next thing you'll tell me is that Jean Grey is back (and not in her "time traveled" or "alternate dimension" forms, but actual "chilling in the White Room Phoenix Grey" Jean).
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Why doesn't falcon keep his wings
Youd think they would be useful
Then he'd kinda look like an eagle and eagle = America
Youd think they would be useful
Then he'd kinda look like an eagle and eagle = America
Finaika
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You're right.
Maybe this was his strategy to give Falcon the Captain America title so he could retire & relax.
Pai Pai Master
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The new Ms. Marvel is a Muslim teenager from New Jersey named Kamala Khan. She's a shape-shifting Inhuman who got her powers during the worldwide Terrigenesis that happened at the end of the Infinity event.
AbsolutBro
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More proof that I am way, way behind.
Don't suppose there's a list of mandatory reading to get caught up on everything after Hope/Avengers vs X-Men?
Pai Pai Master
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I'm not following all the X-Books, but I think Bendis's runs on Uncanny X-Men and All New X-Men pick up immediately after AvX.
I only just recently started picking up trades again and started with the 2013 Marvel NOW! Initiative.
I only just recently started picking up trades again and started with the 2013 Marvel NOW! Initiative.
Why don't you think he'll keep his wings? He's wearing them in the picture in the OP.
Pai Pai Master
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Iron Man is still Tony but they are relaunching his book as SUPERIOR IRON MAN. The fire guy is one of the new Inhumans.
Wasnt there a Japanese X-man with fire powers? Cant remember the name...Sunfire or something
also, that Japanese girl who could armour up in various mech forms in Astonishing X-Men
also, Shang Chi, kung fu master
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