vas_a_morir
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Maybe he's always on, but he's been consistent in various media and contexts about it. I don't care, though. If it's funny, then let him do his thang.
Opie And Anthony Host Goes On Racist Tirade On Twitter After Alleged Attack
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Maybe he's always on, but he's been consistent in various media and contexts about it. I don't care, though. If it's funny, then let him do his thang.
There is no way I can see Ant getting as big as Rogan or Corolla. He doesn't have advertisers and is wanting to charge $7 a month from the get go. He will never build an audience like this, and most of the fans he currently does have will just pirate it instead. If he's going to charge he should go the Marc Meron route of having back episodes paid for, but current ones free.
Also, Ant by himself is going to be real hard to watch. He's far too political and right wing to just be something people watch for entertainment and he's far too raunchy for the usual people that eat up shit like Limbaugh or Beck. I imagine he'll be a little more professional than he has been, but the LFTC shows he has done in the past have been fucking boring and always just devolve in to LI trash singing shitty karaoke.
He has advertisers according to him and I think it's too early to understand exactly what the show will be. I doubt it's just lftc moved to day time. The good thing though is we will find out soon how this whole thing shakes out. August 4th is right around the corner.
Yeah, Bill has never wavered on calling crazy women out on their bullshit. I don't believe for a second that's just for the sake of a bit. I also don't believe for a second he believes all women are as ridiculous as some of his ex-girlfriends; he wouldn't have married one, otherwise (side note, I love when he gets into it with Nia on the podcast).
The "no excuse" bit is gold.
I heard Rogan's thoughts on Anthony. Gotta say, lost a bit of respect for the man, but I understand; he's trying to defend a friend. If he and Anthony didn't go way back, he'd absolutely label him racist instead of crazy. Shrug.
He does generalize a lot. One could reasonably argue that he paints a negative image of women and causes harm by it.
SketchTheArtist
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Why? Because he made fun of certain types of women?
I think it's because of the sheer rage he exhibits whenever he talks about them. It makes me uncomfortable a little. Like, if he beat a woman it wouldn't surprise me at all.
benjipwns
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On Red Eye, a real journalism outlet, Cumia says he'll never apologize: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cQRUi1YUuQ
Sherrod killin' it right off the bat earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG7vIDqJQNI
Sherrod killin' it right off the bat earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG7vIDqJQNI
SketchTheArtist
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Ever seen a Bill Burr show? 'Rage'? Annoyance is more like it. You're read is really surprising me.
vas_a_morir
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Ant can't apologize. They spent the last 3 months making fun of people who apologize. Even if he wanted to, it would be too hypocritical.
CraigerGamer
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I'd love to see Bennington replace Ant full-time. Ron's talent is going to waste right now. Put him with a proper straight guy (Opie) and a funny third wheel (Jim) = amazing radio.
mckmas8808
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So now that Anthony says that she was probably a stripper or hooker by the way she was dressed. I mean come on man! This guy is a racist/sexist bigot.
An apology would make me laugh harder than anything now, lol.
Not that i give a shit what this idiot does in his future endeavors, but an apology now would be completely useless, in all its insincerity (as well as making him look like a complete tool in the eyes of his fans).
I can understand something like Michael Richards on the "Comedians in cars taking coffee" episode, where he looked genuinely sorry about the shit he said many years earlier, but nobody would believe something like this, rightfully so.
Not that i give a shit what this idiot does in his future endeavors, but an apology now would be completely useless, in all its insincerity (as well as making him look like a complete tool in the eyes of his fans).
I can understand something like Michael Richards on the "Comedians in cars taking coffee" episode, where he looked genuinely sorry about the shit he said many years earlier, but nobody would believe something like this, rightfully so.
undercoverb0ss
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From a factual probability viewpoint, at that hour, in that area, she probably was...
And he is a hilarious racist.
mckmas8808
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Have you ever been to New York city or even Times Square? Your post is the sexism that needs to end. My god why couldn't she be coming from a club partying all night or from someone's apartment from a late night out?
The fact that women are immediately consider prostitutes and strippers because they are outside at 4:00 am is crazy. Anthony was out there at the same time, yet nobody views him as a John trying to get a blow job for $25.
This is just how much respect we don't have for women in general. SMH
RawkHawk2010
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Well The Young Turks actually tried convincing everyone that he was out there with his expensive camera to take "creepshots", so...
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Well he posted a creepshot on twitter right before that so that is a fairly reasonable assumption.
Okay? And didn't he? Or is everyone collectively imagining all this.
Anthony has the freedom to say whatever he wants (which he did) and Sirius has the freedom to terminate him for it (which they did). Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence for that speech, and it's not surprising that it's always the usual suspects who seem to conveniently forget/ignore that little detail.
You must also live an incredibly naive and sheltered life to think that words don't hurt.
Um, Times Square is no longer the seedy place that it once was in the 1970s.
undercoverb0ss
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I'm well aware, but at 3-4am there are definitely seedy things going down.
Not really. It's an extremely tame area these days, and very policed.
It's basically Disneyland.
j0hnnix
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I do not know the man or the woman.. but truth be told nothing good is happening at that time. I don't think anyone is generalizing woman but she does not seem like the "good nature" woman some might make her out to be - black or white..
You are. You just did it literally two words later.
Chie Satonaka
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Why the fuck is it relevant what the woman was doing there?
And how did she now become "maybe a prostitute"?
Jesus.
And how did she now become "maybe a prostitute"?
Jesus.
She asked for it, dressing like that and bein all sessy and walkin round with those legs and stuff.
Says who?
Words hurt who? The people offended by this didn't listen to Opie and Anthony and weren't following him on twitter to begin with. If people weren't on patrol for stuff to be offended about this would have blown over like the dozens of similar rants Anthony has had. On air rants, by the way. I would bet anything that Sirius lost more subscribers from Anthony's firing than from his racist twitter rant. Attempting to silence stupid opinions is not how you get rid of them.
What makes his firing extra pointless is that it's not a consequence or punishment to Anthony. He gained 10-20k twitter followers since this happened. He's going to do his own show and tons of people are clamoring to pay for it. He seems more excited about his career than he has in the last 10 years, and his beliefs about race and political correctness are more entrenched than ever.
If anything, Anthony is the winner here and the ones being punished are Opie, Jimmy, and the listeners of the (now crappier) show. I guess the twitter and blog warriors feel like winners because they got someone fired. Grats. Who's next? Jason Biggs said something insensitive about the Malaysian jet crash today, get him!
mckmas8808
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Again why don't you understand that people leave clubs at 3+ o'clock in the morning?
So how does it feel to defend someone that says racist stuff apologetically all the time?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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The ways people try to find any angle to vilify women or minorities. Jesus.
Spring-Loaded
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Check people's thread making history if you're unclear about a given post they've made.
Edit: I don't know what you mean by apologetically. Did you mean unapologetically?
I've never once defended what he has said. I am probably more annoyed by Anthony's racism than most people because I've heard more of it than most people. I've listened to him for 4 hours a day for several years. Think of your favorite comedian or actor or musician and then imagine that they said idiotic racist or republican crap 20% of the time they spoke. I was able to separate the two sides of him, usually by fast forwarding through the garbage parts of the show. It's extremely disappointing and sad because he's truly one of the most clever people on the planet and the non-political/non-racist stuff he does is second to none. He wastes so much of his life getting angry about black people and liberals.
My last thread was about toilet paper. Does that help clarify?
mckmas8808
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Spring-Loaded
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That was just me giving general advice. It seemed he wasn't sure what your intent was here; if you look at what people find important enough to make threads about, you can sometimes figure out what their overarching feelings/beliefs are.
Now that you mention your thread history though, your defense of idiocy and of O&A makes sense here. Had what'shisname looked at your thread history, he may not have needed to ask if you were actually defending anything.
I don't think the show was really "edgy" for the years I've been listening. His political stuff is the opposite of edgy anyway since it's ripped verbatim from fox news. I'd be pleased as punch if he got over his racism and stopped yapping about gun control and taxes.
That death threats thread was ill-conceived and I took the beating before it was locked. The o&a thread was just asking why the local affiliate dropped them.
If he hadn't asked if I was defending Anthony then I wouldn't have had the opportunity to respond that I wasn't. How would that have helped anyone?
Spring-Loaded
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It might have saved you some time but mckmas8808 would have a false impression of me.
I don't care if people see the crappy thread I made. Hopefully it will keep them from doing the same. I could have edited my posts in that thread if I cared that people would see them.
Also I think there's about 4 people still following this thread so it wouldn't matter anyway..
RawkHawk2010
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...Was there any presumption that it would?
MorisUkunRasik
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That's because he's a piece of shit.
mckmas8808
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Whoa PJ. Didn't know you thought like this.
Simply being an Opie & Anthony fan is not a direct condoning of every thing they say. I disagree with stuff Anthony says(said) all the time, but he also makes me laugh a lot when he is just cracking jokes about completely uncontroversial subject matter. Sure, there are a lot of O&A fans that do agree with Anthony 100%, but I don't think it's fair to assume that every fan is some uneducated bigot. Writing off someone's opinion completely just because of a radio morning show they laugh at is absurd. If you look at fans online talking about Anthony's forthcoming show, a lot are nervous to subscribe because we don't want it to turn in to 2 hours of someone ranting about black people, the 2nd Amendment, and liberals. It is hard to separate because he does to some degree profit from his view points, but his main role on the show is to be entertaining.
I think what pj is getting at is that it is really annoying that a lot of people who would never listen to the show have now had a major influence on it's quality, without there being any real tangible benefit to it.
Actually, Spring-Loaded, you probably put it best:
Why do people care about other fans so much?
I think what pj is getting at is that it is really annoying that a lot of people who would never listen to the show have now had a major influence on it's quality, without there being any real tangible benefit to it.
Actually, Spring-Loaded, you probably put it best:
Why do people care about other fans so much?
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Man, that is one handsome cat. Shame it's a cat though
I think Anthony is tired of carrying Opie and they are done as a duo. Opie likes co-opting the material of other people though so there might be an Opie radio network or something. He isn't interesting enough to do a show on his own. O&J is barely scraping by even with all the comedian guests they're having.
RawkHawk2010
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Why is every thread lately turning into a post history witch-hunt followed by comments like this? All it does is suggest a lack of confidence in debating the idea at hand. Not productive one bit, especially since spot-on arguments come from otherwise-loony people all the time.
Anyway, great ad. Love the self-deprecation angle.
vas_a_morir
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Like, I'm not even a cat person, and I think that was a beautiful cat.
I know it's unrelated, but I just had to let my appreciation be known.
I think he was joking
vas_a_morir
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I'll check his post history to find out
Chie Satonaka
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I don't think anyone would have cared if he wasn't on twitter, which is a social media outlet for the entire world to see.
Keep your bullshit in your box, and you can smell it all you want. When your bullshit becomes overwhelmingly public, the public has every right to declare they don't like the way your shit smells.
That people are upset because "people who don't care about the show have influenced it" is ridiculous. Maybe you should be mad at the guy who opened himself up for the drama by posting a stream of vomit on twitter.
And if the goalposts are moved to say "Well, he's been this way on Twitter forever!" well, who cares? Now is the time where it backfired.
freenudemacusers
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we should also check everyone's previous account history. get the full picture.
Spring-Loaded
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No one's saying that being an Opie & Anthony fan counts as directly condoning every thing Anthony's said though. If you assume that's what people are saying, you'll go off on a tangent without any need, like you have here.
pj has gone out of his way to make a thread complaining about people "wearing death threats like badges" and he made a thread saying he was a fan of O&A. That shows the type of speech he's prone to defend and that he's a fan of this show. It looks like he's defending a host's right to not be fired for racist speech on a syndicated radio show in this thread and that's in line with what he's made threads about before. It's harder to get an idea of someone's beliefs by looking through their individual posts since those could be in any myriad threads that they may not have made, as opposed to looking through "threads by this member" which is more specific. I remembered seeing the "hate speech" thread when it was made though, but not everyone did.
My thread that you linked was purely about fandoms, associating hate for given media with the fans of that media and complaining about the fans themselves simply for liking that media stuff like movies, cartoons, video games, Etc. Here it's different as 1) no one's chastising pj because he's an O&A fan and 2) are instead concerned with his defense of racist, hurtful speech. If anyone's writing off his opinion it's probably because he seemingly actively supports racist speech in some way, not just because he listens to O&A (or just O now). Someone complaining about something negative that a fan actually does not saying anyone's doing that, but still is different from complaining about fans of the Star Wars prequels for liking the Star Wars prequels. Does that distinction make sense?
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