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[Buzzman]

Let's state the obvious: No one likes to see dead children. Well, that's not completely true: Hamas does. They would prefer those children to be Jewish, but there is greater value to them if they are Palestinian. Outmatched by Israel's military, handicapped by rocket launchers with the steady hands of Barney Fife, Hamas is playing the long game of moral revulsion.

Truly disgusting tactic by the terrorists, stepping in front of our bullets and bombs so they can try to get sympathy!

 

[werks]

They're letting some in but the problem is the cement Israel gave to Gaza, Hamas took it to use for construction of tunnels. So they're hesitant about bringing in cement because they don't want to fund the tunnels

Why the hell else would you build anything else in Gaza. We already know that everything including schools and hospitals in Gaza are fair game. Every single IDF attack was hamas' fault because they had weapons there and the burden of proof is on Palestine to prove otherwise.

 

[kmag]

Actually, Israel has sent cement and steel there in the past couple years. Which I'm surprised since there was an intelligence report saying they would use it for tunnels/shelters instead.

They only let it in for Internationally led building projects. 1000 tons of cement sounds a lot, it's not really. A previous client had 1000 ton cement silo's on just one building site.

 

[theignoramus]

https://twitter.com/bouckap/status/491611784009486336

On some basic level, you forfeit your right to be called civilians when you freely elect members of a terrorist organization as statesmen, invite them to dinner with blood on their hands and allow them to set up shop in your living room as their base of operations. At that point you begin to look a lot more like conscripted soldiers than innocent civilians. And you have wittingly made yourself targets.

So the Wall Street Journal is publishing editorials that literally advocate war crimes and collective punishment. I would complain to their ombudsman.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

IDF's latest tweet

I was thinking, they wouldn't need that many tunnels if you opened up the borders......

Complain about there not being more hospitals, schools and houses while you attack the existing ones with tanks, artillery and airstrikes.

 

[Trojita]

IDF's latest tweet

I was thinking, they wouldn't need that many tunnels if you opened up the borders......

Ummm.. They are blowing up houses and hospitals made from cement

 

[werks]

So the Wall Street Journal is publishing editorials that literally advocate war crimes and collective punishment. I would complain to their ombudsman.

You are better of complaining to NYU.

 

[Buzzman]

So the Wall Street Journal is publishing editorials that literally advocate war crimes and collective punishment. I would complain to their ombudsman.

The American people should remember that they pay taxes to their government, they elect their president, their government manufactures arms

Spoiler

-Osama Bin Laden

 

[Lucky_Se7enty]

gaza doesnt even produce their own cement, and has to have israel provide it to them. does nobody find that crazy. maybe this is part of the problem

 

[TheContact]

U think the amount they give can produce all these tunnel ?

No, which means the extra cement they have do have is not being used toward civilian infrastructure.

Why the hell else would you build anything else in Gaza. We already know that everything including schools and hospitals in Gaza are fair game. Every single IDF attack was hamas' fault because they had weapons there and the burden of proof is on Palestine to prove otherwise.

Every IDF attack is not Hamas fault...and it's not on Palestine to prove otherwise. The bad guys here are Hamas and Israel. As a Jew myself, and a supporter of Israel (the state, not the actions by the govt and the IDF), I don't blame Palestinians for hating Israel.

The concrete that goes into Gaza should be used for civilian purposes not building tunnels to kill people. Everyone just needs to work out a resolution that's fair to both sides, but it doesn't look like either side is willing to negotiate, they'd rather kill innocent civilians. It's fucking baffling.

 

[Joni]

There is nothing recent on this story, its been trumped by Protective Edge -a thing allowed (arguably) because of these killings.

Well, they can't continue the attacks if it turns out these kids weren't killed by Hamas so it doesn't suit them to continue the investigation and see who killed them on the chance it wasn't Hamas.

 

[Razgreez]

No, which means the extra cement they have do have is not being used toward civilian infrastructure.



Every IDF attack is not Hamas fault...and it's not on Palestine to prove otherwise. The bad guys here are Hamas and Israel. As a Jew myself, and a supporter of Israel (the state, not the actions by the govt and the IDF), I don't blame Palestinians for hating Israel.

The concrete that goes into Gaza should be used for civilian purposes not building tunnels to kill people. Everyone just needs to work out a resolution that's fair to both sides, but it doesn't look like either side is willing to negotiate, they'd rather kill innocent civilians. It's fucking baffling.

How is it baffling? We know that israel is not going to stop until every non jew or, more importantly, non zionist has either been killed or expelled from the occupied territories. Whether it happens now or in the next few decades is irrelevant to the zionists. I understand you're conflicted because, as you clearly state, you support the oppressor but there's nothing baffling about the situation. We know israel's end game, some of us just don't want to accept it and some here entirely support it

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

How about being one of the only allies to knowingly attack the US military? Been caught more than once selling United States secrets and military technology to the Chinese?

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/12/2...ale-of-advanced-military-technology-to-china/
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FL21Ak01.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4101961.stm


Or knowingly and deliberately murdering UN observers?

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Despite_6_warnings_Israel_bombed_and_killed_4_UN_observers

They also sold missiles to the Argentinians during the Falklands War. Not to mention murdering British soldiers that were stationed in Palestine after the war. My Grandfather was posted there, and he never forgave the "terrorists" that went on to form the Israeli Government.

 

[King_Moc]

They also sold missiles to the Argentinians during the Falklands War. Not to mention murdering British soldiers that were stationed in Palestine after the war. My Grandfather was posted there, and he never forgave the "terrorists" that went on to form the Israeli Government.

I did not know this. So they've basically attacked my country directly in the past? Well, fuck. I can't wait till the world is sick of their shit and just takes them down.

 

[Freezie KO]

We know that israel is not going to stop until every non jew or, more importantly, non zionist has either been killed or expelled from the occupied territories.

When they gave the Sinai peninsula back to Egypt and pulled settlements out of Gaza, that must've been part of that Zionist Master Plan of taking over the whole region. Those Zionists sure are a clever bunch.

 

[kikonawa]

When they gave the Sinai peninsula back to Egypt and pulled settlements out of Gaza, that must've been part of that Zionist Master Plan of taking over the whole region. Those Zionists sure are a clever bunch.

yeah "gave" lol.. what else to do with 2000.000 people?

 

[Partial Gamification]

Well, they can't continue the attacks if it turns out these kids weren't killed by Hamas so it doesn't suit them to continue the investigation and see who killed them on the chance it wasn't Hamas.

Shaer's classmate Naftali Frenkel, from the Nof Ayalon settlement near Modiin, was kidnapped at the same time. Naftali, who holds American citizenship, has been a student at Makor Chaim for three years and is a counselor in the Bnei Akiva youth movement. He is described as loving sports, "a nice, quiet kid." His father is a lawyer and his mother is a teacher. Residents of Nof Ayalon say that Naftali's absence was discovered in the middle of the night on Thursday. They thought he must have slept at a friend's house and sent text messages to all his friends' families. Only after everyone replied that Naftali wasn't there, and not even in the settlement, did they begin to worry and appeal to security officials.
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=18141

American citizenship means the FBI is involved, they don't have unilateral action abroad but I hope to hell there is a solid team on it that is not being obstructed.

FBI Director James Comey said the agency launched an investigation into the kidnapping as soon they went missing, since one of them is an American citizen.
http://abcnews.go.com/International...israeli-teens-human-animals/story?id=24367041

 

[Freezie KO]

yeah "gave" lol.. what else to do with 2000.000 people?

Considering the post I was replying to said that Israel just wanted to push out everyone from the occupied territories and Sinai was an occupied territory, put it together.

 

[enewtabie]

yeah "gave" lol.. what else to do with 2000.000 people?

Israel gave it back in exchange for peace. I imagine they would still be there if that wasn't the case.

 

[imtehman]

damn that looks familiar

 

[Father_Brain]

So the Wall Street Journal is publishing editorials that literally advocate war crimes and collective punishment. I would complain to their ombudsman.

This is almost exactly the same rationale used by al-Qaeda et al. to justify killing American civilians: they elect the governments that oppress the Muslim world, so they're fair game.

 

[Jackpot]

You probably missed the following ....

Talk about selective quoting...

Dean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident, wrote:

I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.[66]

Retired naval Lieutenant Commander James Ennes, a junior officer (and off-going Officer of the Deck) on Liberty's bridge at the time of the attack, authored a book titled Assault on the Liberty describing the incident during the Six Day War in June 1967 and saying, among other things, it was deliberate.

The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as 'murderous bastards.' It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

Why on Earth are you trying to excuse multiple historical incidents? Would you rewrite the entirety of history just so that you don't have to concede a point?

 

[Punkster_NY]

Video of an Israeli sniper murdering an unarmed civilian who was just looking for his family.

 

[marrec]

I did not know this. So they've basically attacked my country directly in the past? Well, fuck. I can't wait till the world is sick of their shit and just takes them down.

Remember though that this was after was was seen as British occupation at the time. The 'Palestinians' living there at the time had their own uprising in 36-38 that left many a British soldier and newly immigrated Jew dead.

 

[Crisco]

Those pictures need to be captioned with "This is what Israeli's actually believe" like those South Park episodes about Mormonism and Scientology.

 

[zeroOman]

Did anyone watch Jon Stewart Tackles MH17, Indirectly Responds to Everyone Yelling at Him About Israel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DPcmDsCQ4

 

[Goliath]

How is it baffling? We know that israel is not going to stop until every non jew or, more importantly, non zionist has either been killed or expelled from the occupied territories. Whether it happens now or in the next few decades is irrelevant to the zionists. I understand you're conflicted because, as you clearly state, you support the oppressor but there's nothing baffling about the situation. We know israel's end game, some of us just don't want to accept it and some here entirely support it

What?!

Let's look at the make up of Israel for a second:

Jews: 75.4%
Muslims: 17.3%
Christians: 2%
Druze: 1.6%
Other: 3.7%

With that 43% of Jews consider themselves secular. So what I find baffling is the portrayl of Israel being a somehow zionist state that just wants to kill or oppress anybody that is not Jewish. That can't be any further from the truth. Israel is one of the few places in the middle east where people of different religions can live, play and work together. It's one of the few countries in the middle east where women aren't kept from an education. Israel is a place where technology companies thrive.

Yea I get it, settlements are wrong but pretending that somehow Hamas is vindicated from their typical terrorists activities because of the settlements is crazy. Hamas is a classified terrorist organization according to USA, Israel, Canada, European Union, Jordan, Egypt and Japan. Pretending that they didn't intend to threaten Israel's safety by tunneling in for terrorist attacks and firing missiles to then post pictures of dead civilians that are located near their terrorist activities is also crazy. Israel isn't villianizing Hamas, Hamas's actions and speech has shown the world what kind of group they are. The kind that uses resources and manpower to destroy rather then aid the community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

 

[Razgreez]

When they gave the Sinai peninsula back to Egypt and pulled settlements out of Gaza, that must've been part of that Zionist Master Plan of taking over the whole region. Those Zionists sure are a clever bunch.

Excuse me for not specifically stating the "currently occupied territories". Nowhere did I state "the whole region". Though, since you're so adamant about it, perhaps that is their/your next step. Just need to wipe out these pesky Palestinians first

 

[Menaged]

Those pictures need to be captioned with "This is what Israeli's actually believe" like those South Park episodes about Mormonism and Scientology.

The one with the cement?

I have no idea how much you need to build stuff, and tried googling a bit with no luck.
Also, where does it say how much cement Israel allowed into Gaza over the years?

 

[foxtrot3d]

What?!

Let's look at the make up of Israel for a second:

Jews: 75.4%
Muslims: 17.3%
Christians: 2%
Druze: 1.6%
Other: 3.7%

With that 43% of Jews consider themselves secular. So what I find baffling is the portrayl of Israel being a somehow zionist state that just wants to kill or oppress anybody that is not Jewish. That can't be any further from the truth. Israel is one of the few places in the middle east where people of different religions can live, play and work together. It's one of the few countries in the middle east where women aren't kept from an education. Israel is a place where technology companies thrive.

Yea I get it, settlements are wrong but pretending that somehow Hamas is vindicated from their typical terrorists activities because of the settlements is crazy. Hamas is a classified terrorist organization according to USA, Israel, Canada, European Union, Jordan, Egypt and Japan. Pretending that they didn't intend to threaten Israel's safety by tunneling in for terrorist attacks and firing missiles to then post pictures of dead civilians that are located near their terrorist activities is also crazy. Israel isn't villianizing Hamas, Hamas's actions and speech has shown the world what kind of group they are. The kind that uses resources and manpower to destroy rather then aid the community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

To be fair, one does not have to be a follower of Judaism to want to have all non-Jews expelled from the occupied territories or to harbor extreme hostility towards Palestinians. Not, that I'm saying all Jews hate Palestinians, but to couch this in purely a religious war incorrect.

 

[Freezie KO]

Excuse me for not specifically stating the "currently occupied territories". Nowhere did I state "the whole region". Though, since you're so adamant about it, perhaps that is their/your next step. Just need to wipe out these pesky Palestinians first

My next step? Ha. You couldn't even pay me to visit the Middle East, let alone take it over.

Anyway, if Gaza is a currently occupied territory, then how did the withdrawal of settlements play into the Zionist Master PlanTM of expelling all the Palestinians?

 

[Razgreez]

What?!

Let's look at the make up of Israel for a second:
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

After all the refutation of this constant propaganda you keep repeating the same slogans. Yes israel has non jews within its borders, no they do not have the same rights as jews - especially zionists.

Yes the US had labelled hamas a terrorist organization. Yes they have done the same to just about every other resistance organisation on the planet

No, I'm not going to be repeating the same refutations over and over and no, nobody here supports hamas but we do know how to differentiate between cause and symptom

 

[LNBL]

Why the hell else would you build anything else in Gaza. We already know that everything including schools and hospitals in Gaza are fair game. Every single IDF attack was hamas' fault because they had weapons there and the burden of proof is on Palestine to prove otherwise.

The Palestinians civilians don't need to prove anything. The Human Rights Watch did it for them.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/22/gaza-airstrike-deaths-raise-concerns-ground-offensive

The attacks Human Rights Watch investigated include a missile attack that killed four boys on a Gaza City pier and wounded three others, multiple strikes over several days on a hospital for paralyzed and elderly patients, attacks on an apparent civilian residence and media worker’s car, and four previously documented strikes. In many, if not all, of these cases, Human Rights Watch found no evidence of a military target. Israeli forces’ failure to direct attacks at a military target violates the laws of war. Israeli forces may also have knowingly or recklessly attacked people who were clearly civilians, such as young boys, and civilian structures, including a hospital – laws-of-war violations that are indicative of war crimes.

 

[maharg]

So what I find baffling is the portrayl of Israel being a somehow zionist state ...

I just want to note that Israel is literally the Zionist state. Secular or religious, the movement to create a Jewish homeland is called Zionism (in other words it's a nationalist movement, not a religious one). I've seen a couple of people in these threads using that word as some kind of flag for anti-semitism, which is silly. I mean, yes, when an actual anti-semite uses the word it's dripping with awful associations (as do many normal words), but it still has a technical meaning that's in common use.

 

[Menaged]

The Palestinians civilians don't need to prove anything. The Human Rights Watch did it for them.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/22/gaza-airstrike-deaths-raise-concerns-ground-offensive

I just can't understand it...
I wonder if it's bad intelligence, or... what?
You might call me naive or whatever, but I truly and wholeheartly don't believe the IDF kills civilians just for fun.

Edit: BTW, how do you know which sites to trust?

 

[LNBL]

Did anyone watch Jon Stewart Tackles MH17, Indirectly Responds to Everyone Yelling at Him About Israel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DPcmDsCQ4

He is 100% right. People being against the IDF's actions or Pro-Gaza does not mean they are Pro-Hamas.

 

[Freezie KO]

I just want to note that Israel is literally the Zionist state. Secular or religious, the movement to create a Jewish homeland is called Zionism (in other words it's a nationalist movement, not a religious one). I've seen a couple of people in these threads using that word as some kind of flag for anti-semitism, which is silly. I mean, yes, when an actual anti-semite uses the word it's dripping with awful associations (as do many normal words), but it still has a technical meaning that's in common use.

Right. What I find odd is people that support a Palestinian state but oppose a Zionist state. If you're in favor of one nationalist movement, why is the other intrinsically immoral?

 

[sindbadthesailor]

Israel drops white phosphorus bombs on Gazans

Latest reports say Israeli aerial and ground forces are using white phosphorus bombs to pound several residential areas across the besieged Gaza Strip.

The lethal bombs violate all international conventions and are considered as banned weapons in civilian areas.

This comes as a Norwegian doctor in the besieged coastal enclave has recently criticized Israel for using cancer-inducing bombs against Palestinian civilians.

Medics say some Palestinians in the besieged enclave have been wounded by a new type of weapon that even doctors with previous experience in war zones do not recognize.

Israel also used depleted-uranium and white phosphorus shells in the besieged region during their previous assaults.

The latest revelation comes as Israeli tanks and warplanes keep pounding the besieged enclave. Sources say at 39 Palestinians were killed on Monday alone.

 

[Dude Abides]

My next step? Ha. You couldn't even pay me to visit the Middle East, let alone take it over.

Anyway, if Gaza is a currently occupied territory, then how did the withdrawal of settlements play into the Zionist Master PlanTM of expelling all the Palestinians?

I doubt Israel is all that interested in an eventual annexation of Gaza. It's not particularly valuable land. Judea and Samaria, i.e. the West Bank, on the other hand.

 

[massivekettle]

Complain about there not being more hospitals, schools and houses while you attack the existing ones with tanks, artillery and airstrikes.

.... because Hamas diverts funding for said hospitals, schools and houses to building those tunnels to smuggle more weapons, etc.

See how circular the argument becomes?

 

[Goliath]

To be fair, one does not have to be a follower of Judaism to want to have all non-Jews expelled from the occupied territories or to harbor extreme hostility towards Palestinians. Not, that I'm saying all Jews hate Palestinians, but to couch this in purely a religious war incorrect.

Obviously these issues are far more complex then just one variable. But I was commenting on a post where the poster was trying to pass Israel as a Zionist state that is attempting to expell anything non Jewish.

I don't believe that Israel's treatment of Gaza and West Bank are because they are not Jewish or muslim because Israel has a sizable muslim population, significantly more then the U.S. It's issues have been with the extremist factions and it's own safety. Many of the arab governments around it have fallen to extremist Islam and it hasn't brought about better treatment for it's citizens. In fact many Jews currently in Israel are Jews that left many of the arab countries because of the poor treatment they have recieved.

However Hamas' stance has been the destruction of Israel and the Jews. So while I can agree that it being a purely religious war in incorrect on Israel's side I don't believe that is the case with Hamas.

 

[maharg]

My next step? Ha. You couldn't even pay me to visit the Middle East, let alone take it over.

Anyway, if Gaza is a currently occupied territory, then how did the withdrawal of settlements play into the Zionist Master PlanTM of expelling all the Palestinians?

The cynical answer would be that they knew the security situation in Gaza would deteriorate and it would give them license to continue settlement in the West Bank. It's not as if there's no precedent for this kind of move, it's basically been Russia's gameplan in both Chechnya and Ukraine.

More likely, though, it's not part of some master plan, but it still doesn't really absolve Israel of the ensuing power vacuum. Removing the settlements was good, but complete withdrawal without a comprehensive plan for *all* of the occupied territories was probably a mistake (and I think I probably differ with most of the other people who consider Israel's actions in this conflict wrong here).

The removal of settlements that prevent a secure Palestinian state will always be a necessary first step in a true peace process for Israel, but just doing that and then leaving is also not going to just make things hunky dory all of a sudden.

It's also worth noting that there weren't a huge number of settlements in Gaza to begin with, and that the strategic value of the West Bank settlement seems to be creating a buffer around Jerusalem and against Jordan more than anything else, where Egypt has become one of Israel's friendliest neighbours (brief Brotherhood period aside).

 

[Razgreez]

My next step? Ha. You couldn't even pay me to visit the Middle East, let alone take it over.

Anyway, if Gaza is a currently occupied territory, then how did the withdrawal of settlements play into the Zionist Master PlanTM of expelling all the Palestinians?

I suppose that's the difference between you and I. I have been there and have seen the occupation face to face. All the while having my parents, who grew up in apartheid South Africa, explain to, as opposed to indoctrinate, me just how much worse the Palestinians have it.

If it's not clear by now why the israelis left Gaza then it never will be. It's easier to root out undesirables when your own people aren't getting in the way. Especially those pro peace israeli protesters. Rather imprison them, limit their access to basic services and water and watch them die slowly. Punish them if they even think of being productive in any way or seek self determination

 

[Freezie KO]

I doubt Israel is all that interested in an eventual annexation of Gaza. It's not particularly valuable land. Judea and Samaria, i.e. the West Bank, on the other hand.

I certainly won't argue that there are Israelis, some in government, that would like the eventual annexation of the West Bank.

But that's a bit more nuanced than Razgreez's comment that Israel is planning to just kill every non-Jew in the occupied territories until they have all the land.

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The cynical answer would be that they knew the security situation in Gaza would deteriorate and it would give them license to continue settlement in the West Bank. It's not as if there's no precedent for this kind of move, it's basically been Russia's gameplan in both Chechnya and Ukraine.

More likely, though, it's not part of some master plan, but it still doesn't really absolve Israel of the ensuing power vacuum. Removing the settlements was good, but complete withdrawal without a comprehensive plan for *all* of the occupied territories was probably a mistake (and I think I probably differ with most of the other people who consider Israel's actions in this conflict wrong here).

The removal of settlements that prevent a secure Palestinian state will always be a necessary first step in a true peace process for Israel, but just doing that and then leaving is also not going to just make things hunky dory all of a sudden.

It's also worth noting that there weren't a huge number of settlements in Gaza to begin with, and that the strategic value of the West Bank settlement seems to be creating a buffer around Jerusalem and against Jordan more than anything else, where Egypt has become one of Israel's friendliest neighbours (brief Brotherhood period aside).

I agree. The removal of settlements in West Bank would be a prerequisite for any compromise for peace. But of course, that begs a lot of questions about which settlements, facts on the ground, land swaps, etc. The Olmert plan always seemed like a good start, at the very least.

 

[Cromat]

Israel drops white phosphorus bombs on Gazans

PressTV......

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

.... because Hamas diverts funding for said hospitals, schools and houses to building those tunnels to smuggle more weapons, etc.

See how circular the argument becomes?

Way to miss the point. I get that. It's just a bit rich coming from the same people that are leveling said buildings.

 

[massivekettle]

Israel drops white phosphorus bombs on Gazans

Whilst quoting an Iranian news agency. Oh, lawd...

 

[zeroOman]

Israel drops white phosphorus bombs on Gazans

mmm are Presstv good scores ?

 

[dripdripsplash]

Right. What I find odd is people that support a Palestinian state but oppose a Zionist state. If you're in favor of one nationalist movement, why is the other intrinsically immoral?

The zionist state is intrinsically racist. If you read the founding litterature of the Zionist ideology and its goal of a Jewish state you will know that it is an ideology that puts Jews over other people.

This is most apparent in the fact that there is no mention of the native occupants of the different countries the Zionists wanted to take over. Absolutely none in either the internal debate or founding litterature of the Zionist community. (Der Judenstat being a great example of this.)

A historical myth was created that the possible countries was empty waiting for a homeless people to immigrate to them. A complete lie.

 

[massivekettle]

Way to miss the point. I get that. It's just a bit rich coming from the same people that are leveling said buildings.

They are "leveling" Gaza because Hamas does not give them any choice. Had Palestinians elected Fatah again instead of Hamas, we wouldn't be there. Guaranteed.

Israel does not trust Hamas, and why should it? Hamas openly stands for the destruction of Israel.