Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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I really want Dixie Kong, but what do you think the best way to differentiate her from Diddy would be? Obviously the ponytail adds range, but what do you think Sakurai would do with her?
 
What exactly would they give her that DK or Diddy doesn't already have.

I want characters with very distinct designs and movesets. As such I would be fine with K. Rool. Antagonists are much more fun to play as anyway.
 
DICKS AHOY said:
Isn't DKC3's subtitle "Dixie's Double Trouble" or something to that effect?
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DKC2 >>> DKC3
 
OricWindstar said:
I really want Dixie Kong, but what do you think the best way to differentiate her from Diddy would be? Obviously the ponytail adds range, but what do you think Sakurai would do with her?
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Regiruler said:
What exactly would they give her that DK or Diddy doesn't already have.

I want characters with very distinct designs and movesets. As such I would be fine with K. Rool. Antagonists are much more fun to play as anyway.
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How about giving her unique animations and attacks like any other Smash character?

Hell, you can do interesting things like making her a float-based character like Peach.
 
Dixie hover flies.

Diddy...also flies, but uses rockets instead.

Dixie is easily the third character if you wanted three DK universe characters. I don't necessarily know that Smash needs three of them.

K Rool...is fifth or sixth.
 
Toxi said:
How about giving her unique animations and attacks like any other Smash character?
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Because that made Ike and Marth so completely different, now did it?
I don't give a damn if they play differently, if the characters look so similar that on first glance an outsider can't tell a difference, then my rule of thumb is that character is not distinct enough.

EDIT: And IMO, I just don't like DK series character designs, bar funky because he's a total boss.
 
OricWindstar said:
I really want Dixie Kong, but what do you think the best way to differentiate her from Diddy would be? Obviously the ponytail adds range, but what do you think Sakurai would do with her?
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Since she wasn't in DK64, she doesn't even have her own weird fruit gun does she? I was actually unaware she was in more than the two old Country games. Didn't know she was in the newest platformer. All she has is the hair, and maybe bubblegum? She could team up with Kiddy, Ice Climbers style, but I don't think anyone wants that.
 
VandalD said:
Since she wasn't in DK64, she doesn't even have her own weird fruit gun does she? I was actually unaware she was in more than the two old Country games. Didn't know she was in the newest platformer. All she has is the hair, and maybe bubblegum? She could team up with Kiddy, Ice Climbers style, but I don't think anyone wants that.
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She got a bubblegum gun in Tropical Freeze. And, yeah, no Kiddy please.

Lunar15 said:
You're not getting K.Rool, you're not getting Dixie.

You're getting fucking Cranky Kong and you're going to fucking like it.
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Haha, I'd be totally fine with this! Where's our elderly rep in Smash?
Ganondorf alt doesn't count
 
Look at Little Mac and how he uses punches for all of his moves. Nearly the same thing can be applied to Dixie and make her use her hair for most of her attacks. She does have a bubblegum gun as well which can be used.
 
Man God said:
Dixie hover flies.

Diddy...also flies, but uses rockets instead.

Dixie is easily the third character if you wanted three DK universe characters. I don't necessarily know that Smash needs three of them.

K Rool...is fifth or sixth.
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Donkey Kong's certainly a bigger franchise than Fire Emblem, not that it matters for how many playable characters.
Regiruler said:
Because that made Ike and Marth so completely different, now did it?
I don't give a damn if they play differently, if the characters look so similar that on first glance an outsider can't tell a difference, then my rule of thumb is that character is not distinct enough.
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If they have completely different movesets, I don't see an issue. Jigglypuff and Kirby also look similar at first glance.
 
MyFinestHour said:
I want more part-human, part-animal anti-villain transvestite reps from new series in the game. I'm entitled to have a character I can arbitrarily relate to in Smash as well.
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Holy shit is this one of those "terrible fans sour me on a character I was previously neutral to" moments?

Edit: Aaaaaand banned.
 
MyFinestHour said:
I want more part-human, part-animal anti-villain transvestite reps from new series in the game. I'm entitled to have a character I can arbitrarily relate to in Smash as well.
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MyFinestHour
Banned
(Today, 07:39 PM)

you could say that this....wasn't his finest hour

*puts on shades*

god damn it SmithnCo
 
zroid said:
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DK's render from the obscure and cancellled DKC4: DK goes The Full Monty, really don't know why nintendo responded by immediately selling off rare

DKC2 is definitely better but DKC3 is still a perfectly fine albeit flawed game. The Retro games are (mostly) better though.
 
This is something I thought of a while back.
DaBoss said:
Thinking about it, Dixie would be really cool in terms of how her moves can potentially animate. I came up with something that has almost all moves using her hair.

Dixie Movset
Neutral Special - Bubblegum Gun
Up-Special - Hair Helicopter
Down-Special - Use her hair to pound the ground kinda like DK
Side-Special - Something like Pit's Brawl Side-Special (hyahyahyahyah thing) with her hair

Grab - Use hair to grab someone; can grab ledges

Up-Smash - Whip hair in a semi-circular motion upwards
Side-Smash - Whip hair side ways
Down-Smash - Hair sweeps the ground on both sides as she spins (pretty much like any other character's Down-Smash)

Neutral-Air - Something like Sonic's Neutral-Air where he spins in the air
Side-Air - Whip hair forward
Back-Air - Whip hair backward
Up-Air - Whip hair upward
Down-Air - Whip hair downward for a meteor smash
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OricWindstar said:
I really want Dixie Kong, but what do you think the best way to differentiate her from Diddy would be? Obviously the ponytail adds range, but what do you think Sakurai would do with her?
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she pops bubblegum bubbles over everybody's hair and it's a total bitch to get out so she just wins by default
 
Forget it.
DK boring.
Hades cool.

I see no point in me discussing characters I would not play as nor want in. Analysing vidya games in this way isn't my thing as I could care less about vidya metagames.
 
DaBoss said:
This is something I thought of a while back.
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I think that's more along the lines of the 'obvious' moveset, and recently sakurai has been adding a lot of flourishes to characters that you wouldn't expect. I wouldn't be surprised if her moveset incorporated other kongs, barrels, balloons, the animal companions, etc. Side special could be Rambi, etc, down special could be cranky pogo, something along those lines.

The Bankslammer said:
diddy kong really needs an individual victory theme

he didn't even have the boombox for a winpose!
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I kind of want Funky Kong over Dixie, if for no other reason than he'd be a great "wtf?" addition to the roster. With his DKC3 mechanic persona, he could even have a not-crappy moveset.

But mainly I want him because he's such a ridiculous character.
 
Dixie deserves to be in to further represent the Donkey Kong franchise. She has the bonus of being able to have a moveset cloned logically from an existing character. She also provides not only another female but a non-humanoid female. There are several non-humanoid, non-Pokemon characters but they are all male.

She's my most wanted character after Ridley.

I am completely serious about the representation part.
 
georly said:
I think that's more along the lines of the 'obvious' moveset, and recently sakurai has been adding a lot of flourishes to characters that you wouldn't expect. I wouldn't be surprised if her moveset incorporated other kongs, barrels, balloons, the animal companions, etc. Side special could be Rambi, etc, down special could be cranky pogo, something along those lines.
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I doubt they would do that and bring non-character specific stuff that involve another character.

I would bet that Cranky Kong could be a newcomer in the next Smash just because it is that crazy of an idea lol.
DICKS AHOY said:
Also personally I'd prefer Rambi either as an AT or a pokeball-style item where a ton of different animal buddies are incorporated.
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There is a Pokeball Pokemon, Gogoat, which would probably be the way Rambi would work if Rambi were to be an AT.
 
So after reading about how Sheik plays in Hyrule Warriors Im more dissapointed about Sheik's nonsensical grenades when she had a harp. Like in Hyrule Warriors she couldve played her harp and created an elemental attack. You could hold the b button and she would play longer charging the attack.
 
The Great Gonzales said:
Should that disqualify him from Smash?
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If anything, it improves his chances :)

DaBoss said:
I doubt they would do that and bring non-character specific stuff that involve another character.

I would bet that Cranky Kong could be a newcomer in the next Smash just because it is that crazy of an idea lol.
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Just using it as an example of a type of flourish to make the character more unique, not actually expecting it to happen. Kinda like how palutena's moveset is based off KI:U special moves rather than
what she used in her boss fight.
I think sakurai likes to be clever w/ his newcomers.
 
Lord_Byron28 said:
So after reading about how Sheik plays in Hyrule Warriors Im more dissapointed about Sheik's nonsensical grenades when she had a harp. Like in Hyrule Warriors she couldve played her harp and created an elemental attack. You could hold the b button and she would play longer charging the attack.
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I waaaay prefer the grenades to her harp. Much more consistent to her ninja motif and the elemental attack stuff seems really out-of-nowhere. It's an embellishment of its' actual function purely to justify its' existence as a weapon in HW.
 
Lord_Byron28 said:
So after reading about how Sheik plays in Hyrule Warriors Im more dissapointed about Sheik's nonsensical grenades when she had a harp. Like in Hyrule Warriors she couldve played her harp and created an elemental attack. You could hold the b button and she would play longer charging the attack.
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A magical damaging harp is much more nonsensical than a grenade. Sheik uses the harp in OoT to teach Link songs (to play on his ocarina), but in the context of Smash Bros., there isn't much practical use for it outside of something like a victory animation. Link doesn't have a random ocarina attack in Smash Bros., after all.

Sakurai once said something to the effect of, "rather than pulling attacks/attributes directly from a game for the sake of it, the characters should feel natural," and I believe that applies in the case of Sheik. She doesn't use any of her Smash Bros. attacks in Ocarina of Time, but if Sheik applied herself to a hypothetical battle, she'd probably fight something like her Smash Bros. incarnation.
 
Moonlight said:
I waaaay prefer the grenades to her harp. Much more consistent to her ninja motif and the elemental attack stuff seems really out-of-nowhere. It's an embellishment of its' actual function purely to justify its' existence as a weapon in HW.
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It's kind of acceptable in HW, since embellishment for the purpose of making weapons is basically half the game. I mean, Lana's riding around on the Deku Tree Sprout what the what.

It'd be a more than a little weird to slap that onto Shiek in Smash, since it goes against everything else about that depiction of the character, but if we had some other Zelda character dealing with the music of the series (Oracle Nayru or Din or something), that'd probably be totally fine.
 
DaBoss said:
I doubt they would do that and bring non-character specific stuff that involve another character.

I would bet that Cranky Kong could be a newcomer in the next Smash just because it is that crazy of an idea lol.

There is a Pokeball Pokemon, Gogoat, which would probably be the way Rambi would work if Rambi were to be an AT.
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Yeah I kinda actually would really want Cranky Kong. It would be a nice and incredibly unique character. Itd also be a funny whacky character akin to Jigglypuff and Mr. G&W. He also works in a way since he is the original DK.

Moonlight said:
I waaaay prefer the grenades to her harp. Much more consistent to her ninja motif and the elemental attack stuff seems really out-of-nowhere. It's an embellishment of its' actual function purely to justify its' existence as a weapon in HW.
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Grenades were created in the early 1900's what is a character from medeival times using it. It makes absolute no sense meanwhile the harp is a major part of Sheik's character. Music is a huge part of the Zelda series that has yet to be represented in Smash and musical instruments in Zelda have magical powers. I think it is a lot more appropriate for the character to have a harp that is apart of her moveset.
 
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