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[Deleted member 74300]

Just wait until he turns into a rat and raises turtles to avenge him.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

If Captain Toad were to be playable, I'd think he'd be a weird physics character a la Luigi, but in a different way. He'd be the fastest of the Mario characters, however he'd be very heavy. He'd have a good Up B, but his jumps would be really short, kinda like the opposite of a floaty. His attacks would generally be Ganondorfy, powerful, and somewhat slow compared to other characters, but still fast enough he doesn't feel gimped. Attacks could include his pickaxe, stunning people with his head flash light, a down aerial dive based on the cat powerup, a Bowser Bomb type attack involving his extremely heavy backpack, and maybe other powerups from the games he's been in if they needed to stretch it a bit further. His final smash would most likely involve the Toad Brigade.

If Toad is ever playable I want him to have a side-B Kart like the Wario Bike but it's near-uncontrollable and he just screams the entire time before he inevitably crashes

 

[k_Reign]

Some of you guys and a lot more people need to figure out a way to keep your expectations in check...getting disappointed because something you convinced yourself would happen didn't happen is silly.

 

[Golnei]

Just wait until he turns into a rat and raises turtles to avenge him.

Sorry, but they're both still cut.

 

[Diddy Kong]

The most tragic farewell.

#dead

 

[Mr-Joker]

SAKURAI YOU EVIL TROLLLLLLLLLLL!!

Man why did Takamaru had to be an assist trophy but the Mii Fighters get their own slot? It should be the other way round.

Duck this was suppose to be Takamaru chance to shine and leading into a new game. ;_;

 

[Gartooth]

SAKURAI YOU EVIL TROLLLLLLLLLLL!!

Man why did Takamaru had to be an assist trophy but the Mii Fighters get their own slot? It should be the other way round.

Duck this was suppose to be Takamaru chance to shine and leading into a new game. ;_;

Technically Mii Fighters took between 3 and 9 slots depending on how you look at it.

 

[friskykillface]

Only for the Rooooooooollll baby

King K Rool will be added to that pic soon enough :'(

 

[kirby_fox]

Alright then. I just found weird that Sheriff and Sukapon are in the list but DHD isn't. It doesn't really matter, though, I don't think he has big chances of being Smash...

Odd enough DHD seemed to disappear while Sukapon and Sheriff didn't. I'm guessing maybe initial roster hopefuls were trying to pick that WTF character and then realized how out there DHD would be.

Personally, I'd love a Duck Hunt stage.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

SAKURAI YOU EVIL TROLLLLLLLLLLL!!

Man why did Takamaru had to be an assist trophy but the Mii Fighters get their own slot? It should be the other way round.

Duck this was suppose to be Takamaru chance to shine and leading into a new game. ;_;

I would assume because Miis are central to some of the best selling video games of all time and because Takamaru was in a rarely-acknowledged NES game and wouldn't really stand out in terms of moveset.

Though that's just a guess.

 

[Dr. Buni]

SAKURAI YOU EVIL TROLLLLLLLLLLL!!

Man why did Takamaru had to be an assist trophy but the Mii Fighters get their own slot? It should be the other way round.

Duck this was suppose to be Takamaru chance to shine and leading into a new game. ;_;

Mii Fighters look really fun, though

and then realized how out there DHD would be..

Ok...

 

[PeptoandWhiskey]

Don't worry! Takamaru will be in Smash 5 ala Little Mac

 

[IntelliHeath]

Despite with rumors and Gematsu leak, I don't think DLC characters will happens.

 

[Gartooth]

Despite with rumors and Gematsu leak, I don't think DLC characters will happens.

Same, and if they do happen then its probably a very small number that Sakurai has already decided on. A lot of good character ideas being thrown into Assist Trophies, stages, etc.

 

[Golnei]

Despite with rumors and Gematsu leak, I don't think DLC characters will happens.

I'm not all that sure either. It doesn't really seem to fit the general ethos of Sakurai's games - though considering his statements on patching and expansion-pack style DLC, I wouldn't be surprised if there were infrequent balance patches, followed by one or two large bundles consisting of stages / music / costumes six months after launch.

 

[Hatchtag]

Same, and if they do happen then its probably a very small number that Sakurai has already decided on. A lot of good character ideas being thrown into Assist Trophies, stages, etc.

I think DLC stages would be much more likely than characters, especially since they could probably throw in past stages that don't get put in the games fairly easily and make a hair amount of money off of them while still pleasing the fans.

As for characters, I donno. It interests me, because I think a lot of ATs, trophies, stages, ect. will include good potential characters, and I wonder if they'll be willing to ignore them being already in the game someway.

 

[TomShoe]

Just wait until he turns into a rat and raises turtles to avenge him.

Sorry, but they're both still cut.

 

[emb]

Despite with rumors and Gematsu leak, I don't think DLC characters will happens.

I mean I hope not (and we've all had this conversation before, so I won't go into why), but it seems pretty likely at this point. Sakurai said before launch that he wasn't really opposed to it, and some of the fan base seems to be clamoring for it. The series lends itself well to being added onto in pieces. I'm sure Nintendo's business department would encourage it.

What makes you think it isn't happening? Because everyone is being shown as an assist trophy? Or just a general feeling about Nintendo/Sakurai/The Internet/values?

 

[InvincibleAgent]

A few threads ago I asked "Why are people so convinced Chrom, Shulk and Takamaru are getting in?"

Heh heh heh.

 

[zroid]

Some of you guys and a lot more people need to figure out a way to keep your expectations in check...getting disappointed because something you convinced yourself would happen didn't happen is silly.

I feel like 90% of the rage posts are facetious, but I'm probably giving people too much credit.

 

[Qurupeke]

Despite with rumors and Gematsu leak, I don't think DLC characters will happens.

Yeah, it looks uncertain but I'm optimistic.

 

[Axass]

Much like EVO was the "perfect" time for Falcon. Stop assuming Nintendo is going to reveal characters at random events when they haven't done so once for the whole run up to Smash 4's release. Not revealing Snake at Comic-con literally implies nothing.

I've just shown you that Comic-Con wasn't just a "random event": they had the first and only 3DS tournament so far there and coincidentally Kojima was there too. Random would be revealing Snake at PAX a bunch of days before the japanese release just because. Random is what they did when announcing Robin, Lucina and Falcon on a Monday through a streamed video.

Also I never said they had to proper reveal him, I said the lack of hints towards him at both E3 and CC (I mean, Kojima just shook his head and didn't even say anything), plus some of his moves going to other characters are, all taken together, implying Snake's situation is very shaky.

 

[KHlover]

SAKURAI YOU EVIL TROLLLLLLLLLLL!!

Man why did Takamaru had to be an assist trophy but the Mii Fighters get their own slot? It should be the other way round.

Duck this was suppose to be Takamaru chance to shine and leading into a new game. ;_;

Miis are just about the most relevant and successful Nintendo "characters" (in quotation marks since they aren't a character per se, just a representation of the user) EVER (after Mario and maybe Pikachu).

Takamaru on the other hand could be compared to Pit - second fiddle to the bigger game on the same engine - while being even less known since his game(s)? never left Japan. He already entered higher in the chain than Pit despite being less popular and exactly like Little Mac (EDIT: aka Assist, only popular in US OR Japan). I'd say his chances for SSB5 aren't too shabby. Who knows, maybe Sakurai decides to reboot the series after his wrists have healed, that would increase his chances even more.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I would assume because Miis are central to some of the best selling video games of all time and because Takamaru was in a rarely-acknowledged NES game and wouldn't really stand out in terms of moveset.

Though that's just a guess.

This. People need to realise, like it or not, that Miis are the most succesful and widely recognisable Nintendo characters in years.

 

[BGBW]

Question: What game did Nintendo promote at their stand at Hyper Japan.

If you said The Mysterious Murasame Castle then you're wrong. The correct answer is Tomodachi Life. So hopefully now you realise what a big deal Nintendo thinks the Miis are.

 

[Nickle]

Toadsworth is a good alternative to Captain Toad.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Odd enough DHD seemed to disappear while Sukapon and Sheriff didn't. I'm guessing maybe initial roster hopefuls were trying to pick that WTF character and then realized how out there DHD would be.

Personally, I'd love a Duck Hunt stage.

I'm a huge fan with concept of Laughing Dog being playable character but being realistic, he wouldn't be playable character at all so I would be happy with Duck Hunt stage.

Same, and if they do happen then its probably a very small number that Sakurai has already decided on. A lot of good character ideas being thrown into Assist Trophies, stages, etc.

I'm not all that sure either. It doesn't really seem to fit the general ethos of Sakurai's games - though considering his statements on patching and expansion-pack style DLC, I wouldn't be surprised if there were infrequent balance patches, followed by one or two large bundles consisting of stages / music / costumes six months after launch.

Right. It's hard to imagine to having dlc characters when you are more likely to see them in the games as stage hazard, assist trophies, etc. it would be weird if you decide to make them as playable characters when the models are still in the game for other reasons.

 

[Hatchtag]

I've just shown you that Comic-Con wasn't just a "random event": they had the first and only 3DS tournament so far there and coincidentally Kojima was there too. Random would be revealing Snake at PAX a bunch of days before the japanese release just because. Random is what they did when announcing Robin, Lucina and Falcon on a Monday through a streamed video.

Also I never said they had to proper reveal him, I said the lack of hints towards him at both E3 and CC (I mean, Kojima just shook his head and didn't even say anything), plus some of his moves going to other characters are, all taken together, implying Snake's situation is very shaky.

I couldn't really see Kojima reacting any other way, since he's likely under NDA and such.
On the other hand, I could easily see him reacting like this:

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Yeah, it looks uncertain but I'm optimistic.

Oh, is DLC still just a rumor? I thought Sakurai said something about it.

 

[BassForever]

Oh, is DLC still just a rumor? I thought Sakurai said something about it.

All he said is that he wouldn't really think about dlc until the game was finished iirc

Takamaru is this games little mac, character a lot of people expected and seems like he'd have been a great playable character

Gonna throw out again the good chance that Shulk and a RH character are the only newcomers left to be shown

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Toadsworth is a good alternative to Captain Toad.

Cap's actually playable in a game, though. Toadworth's an NPC.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Cap's actually playable in a game, though. Toadworth's an NPC.

And not playable in any game right? Kart, Golf, or no?

Also, why can't Captain Toad jump in SSB? Like, no spring or anything. Because if we're going by that rule, Link should really be holding a Roc's Feather everytime you press X...

 

[ryanofcall]

SAKURAI YOU EVIL TROLLLLLLLLLLL!!

Man why did Takamaru had to be an assist trophy but the Mii Fighters get their own slot? It should be the other way round.

Duck this was suppose to be Takamaru chance to shine and leading into a new game. ;_;

You can always create a Takamaru Mii

Spoiler

wow that's kind of salty, I'm sorry.

 

[SmithnCo]

Oh wow. RIP Takamaru lol

 

[k_Reign]

I feel like 90% of the rage posts are facetious, but I'm probably giving people too much credit.

I feel like you might be too...it's a bigger problem on places like Smashboards and stuff. There is also the situation where people think Sakurai is trolling them about things and that is almost definitely not the case...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I couldn't really see Kojima reacting any other way, since he's likely under NDA and such.
On the other hand, I could easily see him reacting like this:
[IM G]http://i.imgur.com/9WIBkNk.gif[/IMG]

I can not possibly imagine a situation where they would make Kojima sign an NDA. They would likely just trust him not to leak in the unlikely event that Snake were in the game.

You really think Kojima signed a piece of paper where Nintendo said "We'll sue your balls off if you react knowingly"?

 

[IntelliHeath]

I mean I hope not (and we've all had this conversation before, so I won't go into why), but it seems pretty likely at this point. Sakurai said before launch that he wasn't really opposed to it, and some of the fan base seems to be clamoring for it. The series lends itself well to being added onto in pieces. I'm sure Nintendo's business department would encourage it.

What makes you think it isn't happening? Because everyone is being shown as an assist trophy? Or just a general feeling about Nintendo/Sakurai/The Internet/values?

Well, I shouldn't jump into conclusion but there are good handful characters that could be playable characters but they could ended up as assist trophies and stage hazard but I would imagine that there are chances DLC characters could happens depend on whom getting cut or so. We will see.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

And not playable in any game right? Kart, Golf, or no?

Main series, anyway. Sunshine/Galaxy/3D World.

 

[BGBW]

I've just shown you that Comic-Con wasn't just a "random event": they had the first and only 3DS tournament so far there and coincidentally Kojima was there too. Random would be revealing Snake at PAX a bunch of days before the japanese release just because. Random is what they did when announcing Robin, Lucina and Falcon on a Monday through a streamed video.

Also I never said they had to proper reveal him, I said the lack of hints towards him at both E3 and CC (I mean, Kojima just shook his head and didn't even say anything), plus some of his moves going to other characters are, all taken together, implying Snake's situation is very shaky.

That video wasn't random when almost all Smash announcements have been made in video form. If anything it is a constant. It's likely that because Iwata is still recovering they had to make it a stand alone announcement rather than during a Nintendo Direct. I called Comic-Con a random event because it is not a major trade show like E3 where Nintendo makes big announcements. Comic-Con was basically on a similar level to Hyper Japan, a show Nintendo was just using to promote a product (Nintendo has the biggest stand at Hyper Japan, about either times bigger than anything else). I wouldn't expect any news from HJ so I don't see why one would expect it at Comic-Con. Tournaments are just a spot of fun, even the first tournament at E3 didn't reveal anything new. Also how many characters have had a hint? The basic corporate line is never to comment on rumour and speculation.

Honestly, I don't know whether you're reading too much between the lines or just snorting them with this logic.

 

[Hatchtag]

I can not possibly imagine a situation where they would make Kojima sign an NDA. They would likely just trust him not to leak in the unlikely event that Snake were in the game.

You really think Kojima signed a piece of paper where Nintendo said "We'll sue your balls off if you react knowingly"?

Well like, I don't mean an actual, sue your balls of NDA. I mean more like what you mean, where he's trusted not to say anything. And because of that, he probably didn't say anything, much how like someone at Sega (forget who) acted like he knew nothing of Sonic in Smash.

 

[The Bankslammer]

And not playable in any game right? Kart, Golf, or no?

so he's on even ground with paragoomba

edit: oh he's evidently also playable in yakuman ds and is the most difficult opponent. so there you go his claim to fame is being the mushroom kingdom mahjong champ

 

[Kjellson]

I wish Toadsworth was playable in a Mario Kart 8. He's way cooler than the generic Toad and Toadette.

 

[BGBW]

I wish Toadsworth was playable in a Mario Kart 8. He's way cooler than the generic Toad and Toadette.

There's only one Toadette. She's not really equal to To "they all look the same" ad.

 

[zroid]

I feel like you might be too...it's a bigger problem on places like Smashboards and stuff. There is also the situation where people think Sakurai is trolling them about things and that is almost definitely not the case...

My gut instinct is that the "Sakurai is trolling" posts are facetious too (in this case anyway), but again, too much credit probably. :lol

 

[Kjellson]

There's only one Toadette. She's not really equal to To "they all look the same" ad.

I know. I meant Toadette plus that generic Toad that's playable in the MK games.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Peach is going to have to remove Toad from under her dress for him to be playable.

 

[BassForever]

My gut instinct is that the "Sakurai is trolling" posts are facetious too (in this case anyway), but again, too much credit probably. :lol

I do feel like he trolled with Palutena, even if the potd being a statue of the goddess 24 hours after the "leaked" palutena pics was just a coincidence, the "who is this trophy... Its PSUEDO Palutena" was certainly a troll to make people think she was about to be deconfirmed

 

[Neoxon]

Peach is going to have to remove Toad from under her dress for him to be playable.

I think Toad would want to stay, if you catch my drift.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Well, I don't really feel that FYI I'm an Assist Trophy is trolling. I think Sakurai is trying to paint the pictures for people that aren't smart. Last time when Sakurai announced assist trophy without claiming they are the assist trophy. There are some people believing that they are playable characters, so I guess Sakurai want to make a fine line for those people.

 

[R0ckman]

I would assume because Miis are central to some of the best selling video games of all time and because Takamaru was in a rarely-acknowledged NES game and wouldn't really stand out in terms of moveset.

Though that's just a guess.

You didn't play his game did you?

Also, it seemed like they just edited the face that is used for Robin when creating Takamaru.