Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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Sooo, just ordered a Wii U Mario Kart 8 bundle + Tropical Freeze :D

Smash Bros Wii U it is! Can't wait to play online with GAF
and beat everyone hehehe
 
A Rayman stage and music selection would be pretty great, not that I think the trophy leads anywhere like this myself.

Toxi said:
Man, Metroid Prime 2 has some amazing art design. Really hope we see a stage from there, even if the likelihood is low.
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If it's anything like in Brawl they'll look at all the awesome Prime 2 locations and decide upon the underground caves from the intro with the ing possessed GF soldiers.
And of course the caverns now have lava.

Speaking of Prime series, Sky Town from Prime 3 is such a perfect setting for a game like this, it's all about those floating platforms.
 
KHlover said:
I would love to give an account of smashboards as well, but I don't regulary post there
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Smashboards is such a weird place. I used to be really into that community pre-Brawl and it was a really fun place to be. After the Nsider forums shut down abruptly I didn't know where to go to talk about Smash Bros. Finding Smashboards was like coming out of the desert. But it was a really different place back then. It was really FUN. Threads were moderated but their really over-reactive "quality control" hadn't begun yet. Conversations were all very centralized on a General discussion board. It was a great place to be to talk all facets of Smash Bros with people who, even if you didn't agree with, were as passionate as you were.

Smashboards now is practically impossible for me to enjoy. Every single micro-topic has its own designated thread on its own designated board and it's really hard to have more than one conversation at once, and replies can come very slowly. Threads are also locked CONSTANTLY. The moderation there is really rigid and controlling with no evident benefit to the quality of conversation.

I know that's not what you were talking about, but I've been meaning to ask what people thought of the current Smashboards community - and if anyone remembers what it was like in 2007.
 
KHlover said:
Not trying to devaluate your opinion, but considering each character trailer for SSB4 gets (inofficial channels included) million(s) of views on youtube (English ver. only), gets great coverage on pretty much every gaming-related website, top post on all basically all gaming-related subreddits (with /r/gaming alone we're talking about 5.5m subscribers only which excludes all lurkers) and other similar sites, has a facebook page which wasn't even official until a few months ago and yet has over a million subscribers and (perhaps the most subjective yet most telling of all examples) even most of the biggest doubters on the very competitively minded /r/smashbros which initially refused to get it at all now want to at least TRY SSB4. The rest likes it. Hell, evern the formerly looked down upon 3DS version gained a lot of ground in the last few weeks. I think it's safe to assume that you and like-minded people are in the vast, vast VAST minority (
are we talking about dozens of people here?
) and don't really affect the general hype for the new Super Smash Bros. AT ALL.

I would love to give an account of smashboards as well, but I don't regulary post there :(
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I think it probably did a little, but most of the people that felt burned by Brawl are still willing to give the new one a chance. And will continue to be for Smash 5, 6, 7 etc. I'm hyped for the new one, while knowing there's a high chance I'll just go back to Melee after a month or two.

It's crazy to imagine a world where Brawl added all that it did while keeping Melee's movement/combos/whatever other strengths. I think it's fair to say that Smash would be bigger if we were all more or less rallied behind the newest game, instead of divided and in-fighting. But I guess my perspective focuses too much on the competitive community; the majority of sales are probably from people who don't care about the fine details of the games.
 
Finale Fireworker said:
Smashboards is such a weird place. I used to be really into that community pre-Brawl and it was a really fun place to be. After the Nsider forums shut down abruptly I didn't know where to go to talk about Smash Bros. Finding Smashboards was like coming out of the desert. But it was a really different place back then. It was really FUN. Threads were moderated but their really over-reactive "quality control" hadn't begun yet. Conversations were all very centralized on a General discussion board. It was a great place to be to talk all facets of Smash Bros with people who, even if you didn't agree with, were as passionate as you were.

Smashboards now is practically impossible for me to enjoy. Every single micro-topic has its own designated thread on its own designated board and it's really hard to have more than one conversation at once, and replies can come very slowly. Threads are also locked CONSTANTLY. The moderation there is really rigid and controlling with no evident benefit to the quality of conversation.

I know that's not what you were talking about, but I've been meaning to ask what people thought of the current Smashboards community - and if anyone remembers what it was like in 2007.
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I remember what it was like back then and you're pretty much spot on as far as I can tell. Smashboards is just a weird forum to be on these days.
 
Finale Fireworker said:
Smashboards is such a weird place. I used to be really into that community pre-Brawl and it was a really fun place to be. After the Nsider forums shut down abruptly I didn't know where to go to talk about Smash Bros. Finding Smashboards was like coming out of the desert. But it was a really different place back then. It was really FUN. Threads were moderated but their really over-reactive "quality control" hadn't begun yet. Conversations were all very centralized on a General discussion board. It was a great place to be to talk all facets of Smash Bros with people who, even if you didn't agree with, were as passionate as you were.

Smashboards now is practically impossible for me to enjoy. Every single micro-topic has its own designated thread on its own designated board and it's really hard to have more than one conversation at once, and replies can come very slowly. Threads are also locked CONSTANTLY. The moderation there is really rigid and controlling with no evident benefit to the quality of conversation.

I know that's not what you were talking about, but I've been meaning to ask what people thought of the current Smashboards community - and if anyone remembers what it was like in 2007.
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I posted on there for a while, a year or so before Brawl's release up to a few months after it came out. At the point I realized I wasn't really into the game I just kind of quit posting and reading there, and it was through Smashboards I discovered GAF. So I ended up migrating here.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
Huh, I can believe it. This is usually how the authentic dudes with connections work, they post stuff as "ideas" or "speculation" rather than straight-up lists.

Too bad GFs doesn't have a User Search.

To summarize:

* No Takamaru
* Snake won't be cut
* Rayman will have a bigger role
* Wario next Vet
* No Sceptile or Ghirahim
* New Donkey Kong Representative. Possibly K. Rool
* More Newcomers than Chorus Men/Shulk/Dark Pit
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It was on the Japanese Melee site, someone asked him for a samurai character and Sakurai said basically - "Takamaru?" and then went on to basically say if he were ever in Smash he would not be anything but playable and that he would probably need a new game. Of course this was years ago so Sakurai could have easily forgot about that.
 
R0ckman said:
It was on the Japanese Melee site, someone asked him for a samurai character and Sakurai said basically - "Takamaru?" and then went on to basically say if he were ever in Smash he would not be anything but playable and that he would probably need a new game. Of course this was years ago so Sakurai could have easily forgot about that.
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Needs a new game is a lame excuse in a game w/ Ice Climbers. Tons of other franchises are/were dead as well, though they had more than 1 entry.

That said, at least ice climbers have a unique mechanic, where takamaru doesn't seem to have anything too unique - just 'cool stuff.'
 
A Takamaru revival has to be in the planning stages at least. They're slowly building up the West's knowledge of him through cameos, mini-games and smash. Then once the game is ready to be revealed enough people will know about him for people to freak out in happiness just like Pit.
 
emb said:
But I guess my perspective focuses too much on the competitive community; the majority of sales are probably from people who don't care about the fine details of the games.
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Not probably, definitely. That's not to say the competitive community is not a good marketing tool.
 
Look who got Takamaru's moves!

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Actually, why is NoA pushing this game so much more than it did with Kart? Kart always sells more than Smash. Though I guess they kind of have to, its clear they spent a lot of cash on this project.
 
georly said:
Needs a new game is a lame excuse in a game w/ Ice Climbers. Tons of other franchises are/were dead as well, though they had more than 1 entry.'
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it's sad when series only have rep in some console because of smash(metroid in N64, StarFox, F-Zero in Brawl, you can count Yoshi in Melee since it has no stand-alone game on the GC)

Takamaru would have been a nice addition, more with a palette reference of Fate/SN's Assassin :'D
I can dream
 
Still haven't decided if i'll buy murasame on Aug 7 or not. On the one hand, I want to support what could be his revival (I bought earthbound for that!), but on the other, it honestly doesn't look like that great of a game.
 
XtaLarge said:
I remember what it was like back then and you're pretty much spot on as far as I can tell. Smashboards is just a weird forum to be on these days.
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chaosblade said:
I posted on there for a while, a year or so before Brawl's release up to a few months after it came out. At the point I realized I wasn't really into the game I just kind of quit posting and reading there, and it was through Smashboards I discovered GAF. So I ended up migrating here.
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Back in 2007 I made a joke thread (in the General Forum, where everyone talked) about how to determine whether a leak was real or not. It included such highlights as:

"A leak is fake if it contains any of the following claims:
1. that Ness is in the game
2. that Ness is not in the game"

And so on. And it was just a fun thread where people made their own verification processes for determining the supposed validity of leaks all based on the hype-culture and leak chasing we're obviously still familiar with.

Now Smashboards is a place that closed the most popular thread on the entire board - the Rumors and Leaks Discussion - because the mods said it was the same conversation over and over and made the board look bad. A fun thread about leak speculation like mine wouldn't fly there today.

If I wanted to make a thread to discuss the likelihood of Snake's return from my own perspective, I would need to go to SSB4 Character Discussion -> Uncomfirmed Vererans -> Snake. And there are only two people on the board and nobody will go there or comment unless they specifically want to discuses Snake, impeding any kind of actual exposure for your post. Try to post that thread in General and it will get moved, or locked, and you're better off on GameFAQs.

Meanwhile threads are full of unverified and false information and people's signatures are full of the most unlikely and unrealistic character wish lists that make the community look much worse than a joke thread in General.
 
IntelliHeath said:
I just checked out those rumors, and this guy seem to be silly. I don't think he was being serious with most of the posts.
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But that's how real leakers always seem to work.

I recall the Brawl Leakers doing similar goofy stuff in their posts,and are own Lupinko when he leaked MVC3 always did so in a joking manner, right?
 
R0ckman said:
Actually, why is NoA pushing this game so much more than it did with Kart? Kart always sells more than Smash. Though I guess they kind of have to, its clear they spent a lot of cash on this project.
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That's not true. Mario Kart Wii sold more than Brawl, but Melee sold more than Double Dash. The reason MKW was so successful was because of the large amount of new gamers, casuals and women, and Mario Kart is a more appealing franchise than smash is to those groups. The Gamecube was mostly comprised of faithful Nintendo fans and general gamers, similar to the Wii U's audience and prospective audience.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
But that's how real leakers always seem to work.

I recall the Brawl Leakers doing similar goofy stuff in their posts,and are own Lupinko when he leaked MVC3 always did so in a joking manner, right?
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I don't remember any of the Brawl leaks being goofy. But maybe I don't remember them all. There was the Dragoon Leak on GameFAQs, the whole roster leak that was just the list of fighters, the Nintendo leak where they accidentally showed Ness, Jigglypuff, and Lucario... Was there another?
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
But that's how real leakers always seem to work.

I recall the Brawl Leakers doing similar goofy stuff in their posts,and are own Lupinko when he leaked MVC3 always did so in a joking manner, right?
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Yeah, if you're giving away confidential info way ahead of intended release, the last thing you're going to be doing is getting srs bsn about it. The guys who do it for a long time and drop more than one nugget of info in their lifetimes have to do it in a way that makes it harder to trace it back to the real source. Just look at CBOAT, who's been doing it for years now with varying degrees of accuracy.

Doesn't mean I'm putting much stock in this GameFAQs guy, because... GameFAQs, but not taking yourself too seriously while casually dropping information is not an immediate disqualification.
 
PorygonVandal said:
Look who got Takamaru's moves!
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Oddly enough, Takamaru doesn't actually use shurikens in his own game -- they only appear in Nintendo Land, likely because the shuriken tech demo already existed. In The Mysterious Murasame Castle, he throws knives and the windmill blades from today's pic.
 
Anura said:
Smash boards sounds like nofun.jpg
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I just really wonder what happened. I don't think I went there any time between 2008 and 2013. But when I came back it was a totally different place. GAF does it right. Having everybody together discussing a variety of topics at their leisure is how communities are formed, even if the actual intention of a mega thread is to keep the Gaming Discussion board from being flooded. Even GameFAQs does this. Smashboards separates the 3DS and the Wii U game into completely different boards. And within those boards Stage Discussion has their own sub-boards. So there are four degrees of separation from discussion about stages in each version instead of, God forbid, a single thread for Stage Discussion on a single shared board for each game.
 
Is there any word on a WiiU Smash bundle type deal?

I bought a Wii U at the beginning of last year and sold it at the end of the Summer because I needed the cash. Now that I've become infected with Smash hype and that a few other games have caught my attention I think I'm ready to get one again.
 
I pretty much only use Smashboards to find Smashers in my area (though these days that ended up being largely replaced with a local Facebook group). And sometimes I'll use it to look for character guides/tips, frame data, videos, or matchup info.

But their general discussion and new game speculation sections seem... GameFAQs-y, I guess? Like sub-GFAQs, but with images enabled and discussion spread across multiple sections.
 
Small Mailman said:
Is there any word on a WiiU Smash bundle type deal?

I bought a Wii U at the beginning of last year and sold it at the end of the Summer because I needed the cash. Now that I've become infected with Smash hype and that a few other games have caught my attention I think I'm ready to get one again.
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I would be extremely surprised if there was not one for both the Wii U and 3DS. Almost every AAA Nintendo game gets at LE 3DS and Nintendo knows that, like Mario Kart, Smash will sell Wii Us. But no, there hasn't been an official announcement yet.
 
When it comes to newcomers, I hope there's at least one more awesome surprise like Lucina, but I'm only letting myself expect Shulk and/or Chorus Kids/Marshal.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
But that's how real leakers always seem to work.

I recall the Brawl Leakers doing similar goofy stuff in their posts,and are own Lupinko when he leaked MVC3 always did so in a joking manner, right?
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Brawl was completely serious, same for MVC3, SFxTK, and MK9. Lupinko was trying to do different approach on leaks for UMVC3 by making a lot of joking trivia but it got backfired on him since UMVC3 accidentally put all character pictures on the internet.
 
Finale Fireworker said:
Smashboards is such a weird place. I used to be really into that community pre-Brawl and it was a really fun place to be. After the Nsider forums shut down abruptly I didn't know where to go to talk about Smash Bros. Finding Smashboards was like coming out of the desert. But it was a really different place back then. It was really FUN. Threads were moderated but their really over-reactive "quality control" hadn't begun yet. Conversations were all very centralized on a General discussion board. It was a great place to be to talk all facets of Smash Bros with people who, even if you didn't agree with, were as passionate as you were.

Smashboards now is practically impossible for me to enjoy. Every single micro-topic has its own designated thread on its own designated board and it's really hard to have more than one conversation at once, and replies can come very slowly. Threads are also locked CONSTANTLY. The moderation there is really rigid and controlling with no evident benefit to the quality of conversation.

I know that's not what you were talking about, but I've been meaning to ask what people thought of the current Smashboards community - and if anyone remembers what it was like in 2007.
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Wow really? I joined in 2012 and had a great time there. I was mainly in the General Discussion thread who was the most fun place there, it would always resort to crazy discussions, gif, jokes, images, etc. Made very good friends with some dudes and even someone planed to do a history sort of with the members in thread. I also liked the like system.

However, there was this user (who's a mod or a premium member if I remember) that didn't let me join in some of the threads plans and kinda made fun of me, but whatever. And the only other thing I disliked over there I think were the character forums, where people suddenly began to get crazy with them and started threads about Jumpman, random 3rd party character, generic enemy, etc. (Although I did argued there if Nintendogs was a Nintendo character or not) so it got annoying for awhile. Eventually I lost interest in checking the forums every day because there was no Smash news so I have only joined there during the Smash Direct and some of the E3 news.
 
Neiteio said:
When it comes to newcomers, I hope there's at least one more awesome surprise like Lucina, but I'm only letting myself expect Shulk and/or Chorus Kids/Marshal.
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lol. Kind of strange that someone would describe another Marth clone as an awesome surprise rather than Robin.
 
PKrockin said:
lol. Kind of strange that someone would describe another Marth clone as an awesome surprise rather than Robin.
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Actually, I plan to try and main Robin, while for Lucina I just plan to get the Amiibo. :-) But in terms of the character's appeal to me as a character, I'm stoked Lucina is in the game. Even if I don't plan to play as her, lol.
 
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