Ridley has been experimenting with poison shrooms and is finally small enough to fit the screen! His character icon however takes up 4 slots so G&W, Wario, Rob and Snake got cut.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong
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Ridley has been experimenting with poison shrooms and is finally small enough to fit the screen! His character icon however takes up 4 slots so G&W, Wario, Rob and Snake got cut.
Is that tweet real? That's a pretty funny coincidence, but totally believable.
Edit: noticed the Twitter handle a little after posting. Oh well, still cool even if arranged.
MrSaturn99
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I'll willingly eat crow if I'm wrong (lucas ;_
, but there's no way that's real.
, but there's no way that's real.The Great Gonzales
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64=T1=Great
Melee=T2=Masterpiece
Brawl=T3=Controversial
and, by this chain: SSB4=Salvation=Shit
SoldnerKei
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When/Where did we see the Eggplant icon?
The Bankslammer
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actually fuck the alt colors thing i'll just make a ton of unlisted pastebin posts that say "the next character to be revealed is so-and-so" and if any of them come true i'll only show that one and say my insider buddy sent it to me
i'll be a prophet in no time
i'll be a prophet in no time
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To be fair, you can apply that formula to a ton of shit. Halo franchise (1 2 3 4), Pokemon generations, horror movies with numbered sequels...
Storm Kyleis
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This is what Sakurai said about the Ice Climbers back in 2013:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/03/creating-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds?page=1
That's the upload date, the image was apparently created before that so it could be before the reasonable E3 leak period, though I can't find anything about the creation date in the EXIF data.
Green Mamba
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The Koopalings are all completely different sized from one another, let alone compared to Bowser Jr. Sakurai has already said that even slight differences will make a character separate.
To be fair, most of the movies after reaching the 3rd installment starts to get to "meh" level. See: The Matrix, Men in Black
I'll willingly eat crow if I'm wrong (lucas ;_
Me too! I just hope it's not a spiteful crow. Those shades look like they'd be tough to digest.
ShockingAlberto
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I like how most of the leaks say "There will be a character reveal (either veteran or newcomer) this week!" because one of them is going to get lucky since time is counting down.
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T3 had a 70% Rotten Tomatoes score. Salvation had 33%. And the audience scores for both we ~50%
PadWarrior
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I'll vouch for you
SoldnerKei
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I blame T-X appearing naked and the adjustable boobs for that score!
this is just why Ice Climbers are likely untouched, rosalina and luma works somewhat the same way after all, doubt they haven't found a work around for ice climbers
MrSaturn99
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And those Japan-only cigarettes, too. Blech.
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Whenever I rattle off info I just say "my preferred roster" rather than "what I expect to end up in Smash." My ideal roster and tempered expectation roster are two totally different things. I mean, if I had snuck my ideal roster in as a purported leak, people would be so upset, holy shit.
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That would be so lame if they would not highlight each newcomer in their own style.
Exotoro
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Tell me your ideal roster :3
If nana's AI is too much, there are solutions, like dumbing her down, or not allowing desync (which might ruin competitive ice climbers) and having nana have no need to recover (teleports to you if she gets too far away) so that the AI doesn't have to be as smart.
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Anyone else feel like Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings are in no way cut out for Smash as individual characters? At that point I'd feel like it would be a desperation move to try and fill up the roster. I mean, Mario Kart is one thing since their inclusion mostly involves changing kart stat dynamics and giving your kart a face, but I feel like it'd be Melee clones-over-dedede levels of waste of valuable time and resources.
I also feel like while some characters are outright villains that have the capacity to hold their own (Bowser, Ganondorf, etc), in actual combat (so not karting) the Koopa Kids and Bowser Jr. have been more "villain victims" than anything. All you have to do is hit them thrice, and you win.
I also feel like while some characters are outright villains that have the capacity to hold their own (Bowser, Ganondorf, etc), in actual combat (so not karting) the Koopa Kids and Bowser Jr. have been more "villain victims" than anything. All you have to do is hit them thrice, and you win.
To the guy who asked -- wasn't the eggplant icon shown alongside Polar Bear in one of the Smash Run trailers? I may be misremembering...
On a side note, while I don't quite believe the leak, I love the idea of Duck Hunt Dog and a Koopa Clown Car where Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings are alts in the cockpit.
These are now my DLC requests, if nothing else, lol
On a side note, while I don't quite believe the leak, I love the idea of Duck Hunt Dog and a Koopa Clown Car where Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings are alts in the cockpit.
These are now my DLC requests, if nothing else, lol
GregLombardi
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If all the koopalings were in smash bros., they better as hell be different from each other.
That would be disastrous.
I'm good with Mario characters at this point, unless they add Paper Mario which is pretty much its own thing. Bowser Jr. would be a resounding meh from me.
The way it's been worded in that "leak", they're not individual characters, it just alt costumes that changes which koopaling is inside the koopa clown car which has the little bubble over it which would be the hitbox rather than the koopaling themself.
Honestly I love the idea as a way to implement the koopalings, they're all great classic mario characters and I would have rather had them than rosalina or paper mario, just because a clown car moveset sounds like a lot of fun.
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I wouldn't mind Bowser Jr. He's certainly become a central Mario antagonist since Sunshine. I could see moves with the paintbrush, the clown car, and maybe a few moves similar to Squirtle with his shell as a small "turtle" character.
GasProblem
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I'm waiting for something Bayonetta related.
The way the Koopalings are presented in this leak, they're fighting from inside the Koopa Clown Car, possibly with the glass dome over the cockpit, which means that it's the car that's doing all of the fighting, presumably with its propeller, boxing gloves, Bullet Bills, Bob-ombs -- maybe even those steel wrecking balls it could turn upside-down to drop. It'd also be fun to see Mecha Koopas -- always loved those lil' guys. So yeah, I could see how it could work, in theory, since they'd all share the same hit-box. It'd require a lot of work to model all of the different Koopalings and their various reactions inside the car, but the car itself would be the one attacking and taking damage, and the car would only need to be designed once. It's a fun idea, if nothing else.
Yes and no. THAT image is fake, but the real, actual Sakurai retweeted some kid who linked him the image. https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai
If it's true, then the character might not be called 'bowser jr.' It might switch as you change costumes, OR, the character itself is just called "Koopa Clown Car" or whatever, and then the rider changes.
I assume it would just hover at low height and use boxing gloves for melee attacks. Neutral B could be throwing out mechaKoopas. Final smash might be dropping the giant canonballs.
SoldnerKei
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that and other performance issues, imagine 4 Ice climbers at once on a 3DS, we had slow-downs in the Wii when that happened, I guess the Wii U version can do just fine, but that would make Ice Climbers exclusives, a no-no for Sakurai
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Posted it a few days ago.
It'd be neat if a majority of the Smash franchises with playable reps each had a possible boss in Adventure Mode. That is, depending on the path you take, it could pit you against the boss of the character of the franchise whose character you're playing as. That's a place I could totally see the Koopalings and Bowser Jr. working effectively. It'd also allow you to specifically tune enemies with counters to said character's playstyles, for example King Hippo versus Little Mac, Ridley, etc.
I don't know how this has even been spun into a potential cause for removal. Game AI typically isn't "artificial intelligence". In Nana's case, it's a set of rules and corner cases to abide by. Simple logic, like:
If not attacking, and not in attack cooldown, move towards Popo on the X-Axis, then on the Y
If near Popo, mirror his movements on a frame delay
Citing this sort of thing as the reason for their potential removal is absolutely ridiculous. Logic like that is NES stuff. If anything, Sakurai was referring to the higher vertex count in comparison with other characters, or more likely, the difficulty in distinguishing 8 individual Ice Climbers running around on a 3DS-sized screen, in addition to whatever assist trophies and pokeballs may be active.
You could argue that 4 rosalinas, or 4 olimars might do that, too. It's very likely the 3DS is the reason Olimar only has 3 pikmin now.
As long as their character models are simple enough, the 3DS can more than likely handle all 8 of them at the same time. I can't imagine the poly count is that different from 4 olimar. If anything, it's the AI that would cause issues, I think. Considering that pikmin are smart enough to pick up items and return them to you, I don't think nana's AI should be an issue. If it is, they can either optimize it or dumb it down.
Nana's AI definitely isn't that complicated, but if it's not really optimized, it could cause issues, but I really really doubt it, because she's as simple as a pikmin or a luma. If the game can handle them, they can handle nana.
lol
Google translate is a thing of beauty
Was the polar bear they shown in a trailer? I thought it was only one screenshot that wasn't a pic of the day?
I'll believe Ice Climbers are cut when the game comes out and they are cut. No time earlier.
Although there was that comparison between Sakurai and George Lucas earlier,
Even the hardest of hardcore fans burned by Brawl would struggle to properly argue it is in any way comparable to fucking Terminator 3.
Although there was that comparison between Sakurai and George Lucas earlier,
I would think Popo + Nana's polycount would be a higher polycount than Rosalina + Luma and Olimar + 3 pikmin, plus they have spammable projectiles and particle effects with the ice wind and iceberg toss.
I mean, I don't want to argue for the removal of ICs, but I really do think the 3DS might end up screwing us on this one.
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