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thats the juniors acting a fool like that over a damn cartoon

its mostly civil in here otherwise tbh

guess its harmonic convergence tonite
 
am i the only one who thinks mako is cool

I see his flaws for sure but I guess they just don't get to me that much. I especially like him in this season. I mean he got dat logic
 
Infinite Justice said:
"Zuko but without the angst"

such potential wasted :/
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Zuko was especially funny for me because whenever he had an angst moment he was like an emotional Batman

"My mother is dead. Or missing."

"My dad banished me. But it's almost like he's dead"

"This scar burns. But not as much as my soul"

Coincidentally when Aang had one of his childish anger moments, we'd call him Aangst.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Zuko was especially funny for me because whenever he had an angst moment he was like an emotional Batman

"My mother is dead. Or missing."

"My dad banished me. But it's almost like he's dead"

"This scar burns. But not as much as my soul"

Coincidentally when Aang had one of his childish anger moments, we'd call him Aangst.
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Sokka: My girlfriend turned into the moon.

Zuko: (sympathetically) That's rough, buddy.
 
Sketchbag said:
It's not a cartoon. It's some of the best animation from a country superior to ours with deep, intricate plots that a stupid non-bender like you wouldn't understand. Here, just look at this for a second:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPCGDOlfHBM
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i still can't believe someone though it was a good idea to have an episode dedicated only to shipping stuff, while at the same time completely rushing the ending and having 2 Deus Ex Machina
 
Sketchbag said:
It's not a cartoon. It's some of the best animation from a country superior to ours with deep, intricate plots that a stupid non-bender like you wouldn't understand. Here, just look at this for a second:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPCGDOlfHBM
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Veelk said:
Sokka: My girlfriend turned into the moon.

Zuko: (sympathetically) That's rough, buddy. But I was banished from my country and given a close to impossible task to regain my honor, which I had many issues in understanding what it meant to the point I betrayed the only father figure I have ever had and the look of disappointment in his eyes stabs me in my sleep so forgive me if I can't give a flying fuck about your girlfriend who is now the most important body for water bending and on which we depend for the tides of our oceans and our entire ecosystem.
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fixed that for the writers.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Zuko was especially funny for me because whenever he had an angst moment he was like an emotional Batman

"My mother is dead. Or missing."

"My dad banished me. But it's almost like he's dead"

"This scar burns. But not as much as my soul"

Coincidentally when Aang had one of his childish anger moments, we'd call him Aangst.
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haha

funnily enough it was that angst that made him interesting to me (also with the help of his uncle trying to guide him) and i wondered if they could do a character without it.

"HOOOONNNNNOORRR" (it's from the Ember Island's Zuko actor but still).

Hamlet said:
Mako is usually a much better character when he is paired up with Bolin
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Indeed and it helps Bolin as well since he usually has nothing better to do.

I like that this season is listening to that and we are also getting some family stuff from them (which would have been nice in season 1 tbh)
 
m_shortpants said:
Season 2 was so bad Hulu refuses to acknowledge it exists

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...I'm ok with this. Just rework the platinum game to explain what happened after Amon and forget s2 ever happened. Rename s3 to s2 and everyone will agree to sweep it under the rug.



Also what the hell happened the last few pages? Damn.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Oh man the recap episode from the ember island actors still makes me laugh. Their Katara is fucking brilliant

"I have so much hope!"
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When I saw that episode I immediately thought there should be a live adaption. I loved how they did the canyon part and basically said, "Alright I've seen it let's move on" since that episode was so shit.
 
Icyflamez96 said:
am i the only one who thinks mako is cool

I see his flaws for sure but I guess they just don't get to me that much. I especially like him in this season. I mean he got dat logic
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Mako in Book 1 was generic as hell. He lacked depth and was border line douchey. Book 2 I started to like him. Ironically Korra being an abusive gf made me feel for the guy, but I also liked how he handled it (well, up until he used Asami for a booty call and then jumped back to Korra when she didn't remember their fight). His police work stuff also made him cooler.

Book 3 he's been used pretty well (as well as a side character can be used in this series, which isn't always much). I think Mako is a poorly written character like a lot of characters are on this show. But in terms of his overall personality, I've come to not hate him. As much as I love Bolin, the writers focus on making him a stupid man child has actually made me like Mako slightly more this season.

Mako should have never been used for romance though. His character really suffers when he's used for that sole purpose.

Edit: I do think how he's treated Asami is pretty unforgivable though.
 
I just rewatched episode 3. Bet money that biker gang is going to help Korra and Asami in Ba Sing Se.

finally the Avatar becomes a friend of the people.
 
Sketchbag said:
It's not a cartoon. It's some of the best animation from a country superior to ours with deep, intricate plots that a stupid non-bender like you wouldn't understand. Here, just look at this for a second:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPCGDOlfHBM
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Xpike said:
i still can't believe someone though it was a good idea to have an episode dedicated only to shipping stuff, while at the same time completely rushing the ending and having 2 Deus Ex Machina
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i actually kinda wonder how they feel about book 1 after all this time. there are a lot of things that they could have done better that we typically discuss, but i wonder if they would have considered Amon having Red Lotus ties in the end, instead of the stuff with Yakone.

i guess its not like they couldnt still make that happen... we dont quite know how far reaching their influence is yet, but it'd be hard to not make it contrived, considering what we do know about Amon's back story
 
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i actually kinda wonder how they feel about book 1 after all this time. there are a lot of things that they could have done better that we typically discuss, but i wonder if they would have considered Amon having Red Lotus ties in the end, instead of the stuff with Yakone.

i guess its not like they couldnt still make that happen... we dont quite know how far reaching their influence is yet, but it'd be hard to not make it contrived, considering what we do know about Amon's back story
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They've already done a poor job retconning and forcing plot points together, so why not. Wouldn't be surprised if they retroactively tried to bring Amon into a much larger plot lol
 
Amon was actually part of Unalaq's master plan to allow Korra freedom so that she would be a fully realized Avatar before the Convergence.
 
Veelk said:
She lost her bending, and her entire life crumbled before her eyes. She could still airbend, but that meant nothing to her. She ran out of the hut, and looked down off a cliff, implying that she seemed to be considering suicide. All because she couldn't bend. At which point, Aang comes in and pulls his bullshit DeM, and she gets everything back, and that's supposed to be the happy ending.

I mean, the implication here...that if you don't have something physical, you are an incomplete person? That you should just give up and die. Try to apply that to life. So what I get into an accident and lose my leg? What if a magic spirit doesn't magically appear and tell me I'm sad enough that I can have it back? And you want to teach this to kids?

I'd have never liked what they did to Amon, but what truly made me lose respect for the show was that moment, because of the implication and the way they solved it.
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I don't particularly see it that way. Personally I found the cliff scene rather moving in context. Korra's life has been defined by her being the Avatar ever since she was born. Because of how she was raised, because of how much she liked it, and because it was WHO she was. As you can see with benders who had their bending taken away, they all appeared to be almost empty shells after the fact. It was like part of them was completely cut off. For Korra losing what in essence defined her, what made her the Avatar would cause at least a little personal trauma. Assuming that the contemplation of suicide was actually what was happening in that scene, she turned away from it. But the thought of it makes sense in the world of Avatar. I mean, if you are an avatar that can't actually do your job, which until now has been the whole master the 4 elements so you can smack down threats to balance, and you couldn't bend, if you were to die, at least a new fully functional avatar would show up within 18 years or so.

And as I said, she turned away from it. And once again, that ending worked fine for a series finale. Which it was supposed to be. Hell at one point during writing it was supposed to be like 6 episodes.

Either way I found it an incredibly human reaction. But Korra herself rarely gets the benefit of any doubts at all from a lot of people. DId you expect her to be all honkey-dorey immediately after having her bending ripped away from her? I would call that far more forced than even the ending resolution ended up being.
 
bishopcruz said:
I don't particularly see it that way. Personally I found the cliff scene rather moving in context. Korra's life has been defined by her being the Avatar ever since she was born. Because of how she was raised, because of how much she liked it, and because it was WHO she was. As you can see with benders who had their bending taken away, they all appeared to be almost empty shells after the fact. It was like part of them was completely cut off. For Korra losing what in essence defined her, what made her the Avatar would cause at least a little personal trauma. Assuming that the contemplation of suicide was actually what was happening in that scene, she turned away from it. But the thought of it makes sense in the world of Avatar. I mean, if you are an avatar that can't actually do your job, which until now has been the whole master the 4 elements so you can smack down threats to balance, and you couldn't bend, if you were to die, at least a new fully functional avatar would show up within 18 years or so.

And as I said, she turned away from it. And once again, that ending worked fine for a series finale. Which it was supposed to be. Hell at one point during writing it was supposed to be like 6 episodes.

Either way I found it an incredibly human reaction. But Korra herself rarely gets the benefit of any doubts at all from a lot of people. DId you expect her to be all honkey-dorey immediately after having her bending ripped away from her? I would call that far more forced than even the ending resolution ended up being.
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Agreed, all the times Amon removed bending the effect was as if he had just killed that person. See Lin, Tahno, etc. It's like their souls were removed.
 
bishopcruz said:
I don't particularly see it that way. Personally I found the cliff scene rather moving in context. Korra's life has been defined by her being the Avatar ever since she was born. Because of how she was raised, because of how much she liked it, and because it was WHO she was. As you can see with benders who had their bending taken away, they all appeared to be almost empty shells after the fact. It was like part of them was completely cut off. For Korra losing what in essence defined her, what made her the Avatar would cause at least a little personal trauma. Assuming that the contemplation of suicide was actually what was happening in that scene, she turned away from it. But the thought of it makes sense in the world of Avatar. I mean, if you are an avatar that can't actually do your job, which until now has been the whole master the 4 elements so you can smack down threats to balance, and you couldn't bend, if you were to die, at least a new fully functional avatar would show up within 18 years or so.

And as I said, she turned away from it. And once again, that ending worked fine for a series finale. Which it was supposed to be. Hell at one point during writing it was supposed to be like 6 episodes.

Either way I found it an incredibly human reaction. But Korra herself rarely gets the benefit of any doubts at all from a lot of people. DId you expect her to be all honkey-dorey immediately after having her bending ripped away from her? I would call that far more forced than even the ending resolution ended up being.
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I don't object her having a traumatic reaction to it. I object to the show agreeing that it's a traumatic reaction and you can't better your life after the fact. That Korra would have been right that she'd be worthless without her bending.

A person who lost their leg can still run. A person with brain damage is still capable of intelligence, in the right context.

And the avatar? Bending 4 elements is not what it means to be the avatar. The bending is only a side effect of being the one person meant to truly understand all 4 nations. The avatar only needs multiple bending and avatar state in extreneous events, where no compromise can be reached peacefully. Otherwise, they're basically a diplomat. Their job is to bring peace among people. Why do you need to shoot fire or throw rocks to do that?

Korra could have been a perfect avatar with only 1 bending style, or no bending whatsoever, because external features do not define a person, and I think it's heinous to suggest otherwise.
 
I just finished watching the first season of TLA, I'm going through them all again. 20 episodes. S2 (18), S3 (16). That's what Korra needs. These 12-14 episode seasons are too short for what the writers want to tell and how they're telling it. Animation is amazing, the series is good but, not great like TLA.

Sure by the end of it Korra may have a similar episode count overall due to more seasons, but there is no overarching story like in TLA. Or at least I don't get the sense of one.

Just some random thought I had to air.
 
Azula said:
They've already done a poor job retconning and forcing plot points together, so why not. Wouldn't be surprised if they retroactively tried to bring Amon into a much larger plot lol
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Xpike said:
Amon was actually part of Unalaq's master plan to allow Korra freedom so that she would be a fully realized Avatar before the Convergence.
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we're going to find out that Amon was supposed to be Korra's waterbending teacher under the Red Lotus, and he'd teach her how to remove bending, but then he defected (like unalaq did) and decided to further his own agenda

Sinistral said:
I just finished watching the first season of TLA, I'm going through them all again. 20 episodes. S2 (18), S3 (16). That's what Korra needs. These 12-14 episode seasons are too short for what the writers want to tell and how they're telling it. Animation is amazing, the series is good but, not great like TLA.

Sure by the end of it Korra may have a similar episode count overall due to more seasons, but there is no overarching story like in TLA. Or at least I don't get the sense of one.

Just some random thought I had to air.
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The way I've always felt is that LoK's episode count is fine, but how they use those episodes is what weakens the final product. Like was mentioned upthread, dedicating an entire episode in book 1 to love triangle garbage was a waste of time, and their interpersonal relationships could have been developed in ways that were more relevant to the plot.

Having said that, I do think that the longer seasons would play more to the writers strengths, even though I'd rather not go back to the old format.

ObbyDent said:
What do you guys think of this theory?

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirb.../spoiler_the_white_lotus_used_to_hold_secret/

Basically, they had the idea that maybe the White Lotus used to hold secret meetings in the Spirit World, much like what was revealed about the Red Lotus in the latest episode. They back up their theory with various parts from episode 210 of the original series.
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its not impossible and would make a ton of sense i guess. Bumi doesnt strike me as that type of guy though, but the rest of them? i could see it.
 
Icyflamez96 said:
am i the only one who thinks mako is cool

I see his flaws for sure but I guess they just don't get to me that much. I especially like him in this season. I mean he got dat logic
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He's been a lot better this season. Everybody has been better this season.

It's almost as if only now we are truly season the potential of each character. Even Zaheer is what Amon could've been (until now of course, still four more episodes to go)
 
I re-watched the newest episode. I do remember hearing this part the first time I watched, but for some reason I busted out laughing this time.

Mako: Ok, I don't know how, but water arm lady and lava guy found us

Asami: What? How??

Mako: I just said I don't know how!
 
Joeytj said:
It's almost as if only now we are truly season the potential of each character. Even Zaheer is what Amon could've been (until now of course, still four more episodes to go)
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Yeah, it would be better to wait. Amon only truly fell apart during the last episode.
 
This season is so good that it retroactively went backwards in time and made season 2 slightly better.

Allowed us to see why Tenzin and Korra's dad would keep her secluded, made Unalaq's motivations more clear, and explained that chaos itself is not evil but is just part of the natural order.

Can't wait to see how this all unfolds. No doubt spirits will be involved somehow.
 
I do hope they somehow give more information about the backgrounds of the other three Red lotus members in the final four episodes
Really want to know how Ming-Hua lost her arms but as there are only four episodes left its looking doubtful
 
ObbyDent said:
What do you guys think of this theory?

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirb.../spoiler_the_white_lotus_used_to_hold_secret/

Basically, they had the idea that maybe the White Lotus used to hold secret meetings in the Spirit World, much like what was revealed about the Red Lotus in the latest episode. They back up their theory with various parts from episode 210 of the original series.
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But does the Red Lotus as a whole communicate through the spirit world? I think it was more of those two being more in touch with the spirit world then anything. If all the Red Lotus were able to communicate through that way then wouldn't the group know that Zaheer escaped instead of being surprised by it?
 
Hamlet said:
I do hope they somehow give more information about the backgrounds of the other three Red lotus members in the final four episodes
Really want to know how Ming-Hua lost her arms but as there are only four episodes left its looking doubtful
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Part of me hopes that these villains extend to Season 4. Have they said if this season is a stand alone story or not?
 
Hamlet said:
I do hope they somehow give more information about the backgrounds of the other three Red lotus members in the final four episodes
Really want to know how Ming-Hua lost her arms but as there are only four episodes left its looking doubtful
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I would be surprised. I mean, there isn't a lot of time left. Then again, it's not like we have like an "impending conflict". Or like a ticking time bomb (like Harmonic Convergence). You basically have the rebellion in Ba Sing Se I suppose. Zaheer's plan doesn't seem time specific.

But I would be surprised if the writers took the time to explain the side characters of the villain (since they have been so bad at that in the past). Hell, Unalaq was the main villain, and even he didn't get a proper backstory (same with Amon lol).

Blades64 said:
Part of me hopes that these villains extend to Season 4. Have they said if this season is a stand alone story or not?
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In many interviews, they have said that every season was a self-contained plot. They've talked heavily about this writing format. However, that was back around Book 2. I have not seen anything recently where they've said that Book 3 and 4 wouldn't carry over. Book 2 had some carry over, and they've gone out of their way to tie Unalaq in with the Red Lotus (something I never expected them to do).

So I guess it's always possible. But I would say, odds are low that Zaheer + his crew make it out of this season. But you never know.
 
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