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[igniteddesigns]

I feel that they should add in some film grain to take away from the sharp edges produced by the pixelation.

I would often do this when upscaling poor quality images, as it adds a slight sharpness back in the image and blends it all together.

A small attempt to show what I mean:

 

[sega4ever]

Just to be clear, the game didn't bomb.

I was recently looking at Capcoms earning reports for that year and they were very happy with the success of REmake but comparatively disappointed with the sales of RE0. The sales of RE0 is what pushed them to make RE4 a departure from the classic Resident Evil formula.

just to be clear, the game did bomb.

[URL="http://www.gonintendo.com/s/213125-ign-mikami-on-survival-horror-says-resident-evil-remake-s-poor-sales-influenced-resident-evil-4"]http://www.gonintendo.com/s/213125-ign-mikami-on-survival-horror-says-resident-evil-remake-s-poor-sales-influenced-resident-evil-4[/URL]

The Resident Evil remake is actually one of my favorites of the series too. But it didn't sell very well,” Mikami said. “Maybe there weren't many people ready to accept that. Because of the reaction to the Resident Evil remake, I decided to work more action into Resident Evil 4. Resident Evil 4 would have been a more scary, horror-focused game if the remake had sold well.”

 

[Aspiring]

Oh shit this is real?!?! Count me in and SUPER HYPED!!!

 

[Alo81]

For a series that sale at least a million in its home market. I doubt 100k+ would be something Capcom happy with. This REmake use as much money as producing full new game. It was only Shinji ambition to put this game exclusively on GC.

Even RE4 didnt sell that much more. Hence the end of exclusive. Capcom put 2 of the best RE on that console and sell like shit.

Where are you getting 100k+ from?

REmake sold over 1m on Gamecube, and if memory serves it was closer to 1.5 million.

Edit: Just looked it up and it was

Resident Evil 1: Remake (1.35 million)

just to be clear, the game did bomb.

[URL="http://www.gonintendo.com/s/213125-ign-mikami-on-survival-horror-says-resident-evil-remake-s-poor-sales-influenced-resident-evil-4"]http://www.gonintendo.com/s/213125-ign-mikami-on-survival-horror-says-resident-evil-remake-s-poor-sales-influenced-resident-evil-4[/URL]

Shinji Mikami being unhappy with the sales does not mean the game bombed. It sold 1.35 million copies and in Capcoms earning reports they said that REmake sold very well and RE0 sold disappointingly.

 

[drotahorror]

Can't wait to play this even though I just recently played it on gamecube for the second time.

 

[sega4ever]

Where are you getting 100k+ from?

REmake sold over 1m on Gamecube, and if memory serves it was closer to 1.5 million.

Edit: Just looked it up and it was

Resident Evil 1: Remake (1.35 million)



Shinji Mikami being unhappy with the sales does not mean the game bombed. It sold 1.35 million copies and in Capcoms earning reports they said that REmake sold very well and RE0 sold disappointingly.

hmm, who to believe. you or the creator of the series.

 

[gconsole]

Where are you getting 100k+ from?

REmake sold over 1m on Gamecube, and if memory serves it was closer to 1.5 million.

Edit: Just looked it up and it was

Resident Evil 1: Remake (1.35 million)



Shinji Mikami being unhappy with the sales does not mean the game bombed. It sold 1.35 million copies and in Capcoms earning reports they said that REmake sold very well and RE0 sold disappointingly.

I mean japan number just to give a clear picture. Worldwide it was 1M+. You should not believe what company describe in its earning report. That is only to please the invester. 1M is obviously a disappointed number. No matter what angel you look it from.

 

[Valnen]

hmm, who to believe. you or the creator of the series.

Why believe either? Go with what you believe with the information you've been provided.

 

[PensivePen]

hmm, who to believe. you or the creator of the series.

Or you could believe Capcom, you know, the owner of the IP.

 

[Alo81]

hmm, who to believe. you or the creator of the series.

I don't see why you're being a dick about it, but I was taking that information from Capcoms earning reports,

As for the overseas operations, the sales of “RESIDENT EVIL”
(for NINTENDO GAMECUBE) made good sales.

s, the sales of “RESIDENT EVIL”（for
NINTENDO GAMECUBE）and inexpensive titles for
PlayStation 2, such as “ONIMUSHA GREATEST HITS”
and “RESIDENT EVIL CODE: Veronica X GREATEST HITS”
grew favorably.

, the fact that it sold over a million copies (1.35m) and the fact that they have it listed as one of their platinum hits.

I mean japan number just to give a clear picture.

Ah okay you meant Japan specific sales? I see where you got the number from now.

 

[klee123]

Shinji Mikami being unhappy with the sales does not mean the game bombed. It sold 1.35 million copies and in Capcoms earning reports they said that REmake sold very well and RE0 sold disappointingly.

Coming from the sales of the PSone titles and even the how CV performed, the GCN RE games were a disappointment and only RE4 sold decently, despite that it still sold better on PS2.

Basically Mikami betted on the wrong horse, otherwise he wouldn't have made comments like cutting his head off if RE4 did ever go multiplatform.

 

[jimi_dini]

"Resident Evil 4 would have been a more scary, horror-focused game if the remake had sold well.”

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT, people. You are responsible.

Spoiler

I bought REmake on Gamecube, I even bought RE0. I kinda liked it

 

[Minion101]

Jill's ass looked pretty good in the game. I'm glad to see it return.

 

[Toxa]

"Resident Evil 4 would have been a more scary, horror-focused game if the remake had sold well.”

gamecube was the wrong platform

 

[gnarlyxcharlie]

gamecube was the wrong platform

To this day, Capcom's move to gamecube confuses the fuck out of me.

 

[Neff]

Just read this... first question... why?

we've done this... twice now... let's not do this.

reboot RE for the sake of the RE series.

Or how about we don't reboot RE for the sake of people who aren't interested in replaying one of the best games in the series?

 

[King Beyond the wall]

If this door was rendered in real-time, it means at some point a zombie could open it. But I don't ever recall any event happening with it. :/

Yea it does happen, if there are crimson heads or hunters in the other area you will hear them banging on the door and they will then break it down.

On topic, we have been given a golden opportunity to show capcom that we want resident evil to be a horror game game, I hope you guys pick this game up and prove this to them

 

[Toxa]

To this day, Capcom's move to gamecube confuses the fuck out of me.

same and I still don't know why

 

[Neff]

I can't seem to upscale it to 1080p and make it look ok though. The higher resolution the more "artificial" it looks if you try to de-blur the image.

Let's see how Capcom will handle it.

An inevitable problem is that whenever you try to add detail to a complex image like this, you're not going to do so as well as your mind's ability to fill in the blanks, despite achieving higher definition. It's one of the reasons so many flash ports of SNES games and the like look so awful. Even real games on real consoles aren't safe.

I think they're trying with this though, by refining areas your eye is drawn to, filtering everything else, re-lighting, and even recreating elements from scratch. The result is sometimes not so good compared to the original, but I'd say that some areas actually look better.

same and I still don't know why

Part of it was that Shinji Mikami was fed up with Sony at the time. Capcom was also courting several hardware manufacturers back then to offer RE exclusively to a new platform, including Microsoft who famously blew their chances with an ill-prepared meeting.

 

[@MUWANdo]

To this day, Capcom's move to gamecube confuses the fuck out of me.

Sony was pissing them off, Microsoft couldn't give them a compelling reason to work together.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

To this day, Capcom's move to gamecube confuses the fuck out of me.

Mikami allegedly hated the PS2 architecture.

 

[Sectus]

Yea it does happen, if there are crimson heads or hunters in the other area you will hear them banging on the door and they will then break it down.

On topic, we have been given a golden opportunity to show capcom that we want resident evil to be a horror game game, I hope you guys pick this game up and prove this to them

Well, I'll be buying 2 copies of the game myself. I'll import the Japanese PS3 release, and I'll buy the PC version when it's out.

Spoiler

Although you might not approve of the fact I've bought around 5 copies of RE6.

I think it would have to sell like crazy if it's gonna convince Capcom to make another game like it though.

 

[SAiLO]

In only when the price reaches £5 mark. Completed this game so many times on PSX, don't even know if I'll enjoy it.

 

[gconsole]

To this day, Capcom's move to gamecube confuses the fuck out of me.

I believe it was only Studio 4 (led by Mikami) ambition to make game exclusively for GC. Capcom itself never really commit exclusivity to any console. The only reason they green light that project only because Mikami and his game was so much powerful during the time. You can see that as soon as the game havent prove financial succes , Capcom didnt hesistate to put their game on PS2 at all. Even with Mikami cut head statement.

 

[Seyavesh]

i can't get over that they're apparently hand-retouching/redoing some of the pre-rendered backgrounds

that's so weird because it indicates some amount of serious effort being put in

(as seen earlier in the thread )

also im buying this because i want to see a survival horror offshoot of the RE series since i really doubt capcom will change up the mainline series format due to the financial reality of appeal between the two genres

also because it's been forever since i've played the original RE (and never played remake) so y'know, that.

besides i double dipped on RE6 and i legitimately love that game's system (mercsss) and there is a literal 0% chance this game is worse than re6

 

[-MD-]

But if people want to support this kind of rush job so be it

I would buy it even if it was just a direct port of the Gamecube version with no changes. That's all I ever asked for in the first place, anything they do to improve the visuals is just icing.

Well, I'll be buying 2 copies of the game myself. I'll import the Japanese PS3 release, and I'll buy the PC version when it's out.

Spoiler

Although you might not approve of the fact I've bought around 5 copies of RE6.

You're gonna need to buy 6 copies of this to redeem yourself, 2 just isn't enough.

 

[King Beyond the wall]

Well, I'll be buying 2 copies of the game myself. I'll import the Japanese PS3 release, and I'll buy the PC version when it's out.

Spoiler

Although you might not approve of the fact I've bought around 5 copies of RE6.

I think it would have to sell like crazy if it's gonna convince Capcom to make another game like it though.

Yea, the only hope is that they have already decided to go back to horror, there were rumours of a RE2 remake early in this thread so there is hope.

I bought 1 copy of RE6 so am also part of the problem

 

[Cheerilee]

For a series that sale at least a million in its home market. I doubt 100k+ would be something Capcom happy with. This REmake use as much money as producing full new game. It was only Shinji ambition to put this game exclusively on GC.

REmake (came out in March/April 2002) was expected (by Capcom) to sell...
Japan - unknown
America - 250,000
Europe - 180,000

It sold...
Japan - 400,000
America - 490,000 (1.96 times their expected sales)
Europe - 360,000 (2 times their expected sales)

For a total of 1,250,000 in it's first year (1,350,000 lifetime).

As a result, they increased their expectations for RE Zero, which came out in November 2002.

Expected - 1,420,000
First year - 1,120,000 (21% below expectations)
Lifetime - 1,250,000

REmake was technically not a bomba, while RE Zero was. Even if Mikami says that REmake "didn't sell very well", or that RE4 would have stayed closer to RE1 if it had.

Even RE4 didnt sell that much more. Hence the end of exclusive. Capcom put 2 of the best RE on that console and sell like shit.

Capcom pulled the plug on RE's exclusivity well before RE4 sold even one copy on GameCube.

 

[Toxa]

Mikami allegedly hated the PS2 architecture.

crappy decision, RE fanbase was on playstation and he expect them to switch in gamecube ? this non sense

PS2 had amazing games despite the architecture

DMC 1 was oustanding

once again lazy dev lmao

 

[FyreWulff]

re: the gamecube in the game. The N64 on Banjo Tooie's menu was still there in the XBLA version. And they changed the cartridges behind it into 360 boxes, so someone definitely had an opportunity to remove it.

Not the best pic, but when you select Multiplayer, that N64 take up the entire screen:

If they remove it, it's on them. Doesn't seem Nintendo minds

 

[Toxa]

Part of it was that Shinji Mikami was fed up with Sony at the time. Capcom was also courting several hardware manufacturers back then to offer RE exclusively to a new platform, including Microsoft who famously blew their chances with an ill-prepared meeting.

yeah I've heard that but ...

fed up ??? why ??? most of the third party studio stayed on the sony boat with success except mikami

 

[TGO]

Where are you getting 100k+ from?

REmake sold over 1m on Gamecube, and if memory serves it was closer to 1.5 million.

Edit: Just looked it up and it was

Resident Evil 1: Remake (1.35 million)



Shinji Mikami being unhappy with the sales does not mean the game bombed. It sold 1.35 million copies and in Capcoms earning reports they said that REmake sold very well and RE0 sold disappointingly.

1.5mil for Resident Evil is bad,especially considering it was exclusive and a remake that was heavily invested in, Mikami even says RE4 was a result of it's poor sales.
If remake sold well or was on PS2 then RE wouldn't need to return to it's roots as it would have never left.
The fanbase wasn't there and it effective the whole series in a negative way eventhou RE4 was good.
If that's being exclusive to Nintendo console fault or Capcom not porting to PS2 is to blame we don't know but being available only on Gamecube cause all the problems RE has today.

 

[Cheerilee]

yeah I've heard that but ...

fed up ??? why ??? most of the third party studio stayed on the sony boat with success except mikami

Supposedly Code Veronica was the "real" Resident Evil 3, and Nemesis was a side story, but Sony got hissy about their game being less important than a Sega game, so they made him put the "3" on the PSX game.

Then Capcom ordered Code Veronica to the PS2 against his wishes. He didn't like being told what to do, just because it makes Sony happy.

 

[93xfan]

My favorite Resident Evil game, by far! Hopefully they fix the shadows for the characters...

 

[The_Dude]

Even RE4 didnt sell that much more. Hence the end of exclusive.

It was announced for PS2 before the GameCube version was even released, so the sales of it didn't end exclusivity. Also, I imagine that announcement would have impacted sales of the GC version.

 

[Toxa]

1.5mil for Resident Evil is bad,especially considering it was exclusive and a remake that was heavily invested in, Mikami even says RE4 was a result of it's poor sales.
If remake sold well or was on PS2 then RE wouldn't need to return to it's roots as it would have never left.
The fanbase wasn't there and it effective the whole series in a negative way eventhou RE4 was good.
If that's being exclusive to Nintendo console fault or Capcom not porting to PS2 is to blame we don't know but being available only on Gamecube cause all the problems RE has today.

I couldn't agree more
REbirth was outstanding and zero was a great but it should have been released on PS2

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Or you could believe Capcom, you know, the owner of the IP.

Why believe either? Go with what you believe with the information you've been provided.

No, he's right....never believe Capcom.

They said Dragons Dogma was a hit when it sold less than their initial predictions. Revelations somehow manages to sell 1.2 million despite selling just over a 100k on its first month in the US.

1.35 million for an RE game, even a remake is disappointing. RE usually does 1 million on Playstation in Japan alone. Well thats what they get for putting it on the bombing GCN and not PS2.

 

[Toxa]

Supposedly Code Veronica was the "real" Resident Evil 3, and Nemesis was a side story, but Sony got hissy about their game being less important than a Sega game, so they made him put the "3" on the PSX game.

Then Capcom ordered Code Veronica to the PS2 against his wishes. He didn't like being told what to do, just because it makes Sony happy.

it makes capcom also happy CV on PS2 means a lot of sales for capcom

 

[Toxa]

It was announced for PS2 before the GameCube version was even released, so the sales of it didn't end exclusivity. Also, I imagine that announcement would have impacted sales of the GC version.

at this time sadly the GC (such a great hardware) was a dying platform falling behind the xbox so heading back to ps2 was the right move

 

[gconsole]

It was announced for PS2 before the GameCube version was even released, so the sales of it didn't end exclusivity. Also, I imagine that announcement would have impacted sales of the GC version.

Hmm, I don't think that's the case. All die hard RE fan (including me) should already bought GC since REmake or Zero. And since Nintendo fanbase didn't show that much interest in the series , I doubt RE4 will get much different reception.

But you are right. I was wrong about its sale end exclusivity. Actually it happen even before the GC version release. I remember that time when all the fan scream how stupid Capcom was.

 

[Orgen]

Holy shit at the revisionist history in this thread...

And Mikami a lazy dev? LMAO

On topic: great news for anyone that didn't play this game and I hope that Capcom puts more effort than what shows right now in these pics.

 

[tkscz]

Somewhat off topic but what were the sales of Resident evil: revelations on the 3DS after it was on the eShop? I tend to see it on the top ten weekly sellers every now and again (usually when it is on sale).

 

[gconsole]

1.5mil for Resident Evil is bad,especially considering it was exclusive and a remake that was heavily invested in, Mikami even says RE4 was a result of it's poor sales.
If remake sold well or was on PS2 then RE wouldn't need to return to it's roots as it would have never left.
The fanbase wasn't there and it effective the whole series in a negative way eventhou RE4 was good.
If that's being exclusive to Nintendo console fault or Capcom not porting to PS2 is to blame we don't know but being available only on Gamecube cause all the problems RE has today.

Yeah. That exclusivity thing almost kill the franchise ( 3 main game in a row that sell just 1M+ worldwide). I couldn't imagine if RE4 didn't get best game of the year and (a lot more) additional sale from PS2, then what would happen to this series.

Mikami, while being a great creator , he is a very bad business man. I can't really blame Capcom for its action.

 

[The_Dude]

at this time sadly the GC (such a great hardware) was a dying platform falling behind the xbox so heading back to ps2 was the right move

Which is fine, but I don't think the announcement helped GC sales.

Hmm, I don't think that's the case. All die hard RE fan (including me) should already bought GC since REmake or Zero. And since Nintendo fanbase didn't show that much interest in the series , I doubt RE4 will get much different reception.

But you are right. I was wrong about its sale end exclusivity. Actually it happen even before the GC version release. I remember that time when all the fan scream how stupid Capcom was.

I'm not saying the GC version would have sold millions more if it were exclusive, but with all the hype behind it I find it hard to believe there wouldn't have been a decent number of people picking it up on GC if there was no PS2 version.

 

[Menome]

In only when the price reaches £5 mark. Completed this game so many times on PSX, don't even know if I'll enjoy it.

Trust me, it's leagues ahead of the Playstation version and has enough changes and additional content to keep it fresh. I say this as someone who's also completed the Playstation version more times than I can count.

 

[Toxa]

I don't if those numbers a reliabe but

RE1 : 2.75 million (PS1)
RE2 :4.96 million (PS1)
RE CV :1.14 million (DC) and 2.3 million (PS2)
Resident Evil 4 (2.3 million PS2, 1.9 million Wii, 1.6 million GameCube)

5 and 6 get better sales on PS platform

 

[Mr_Zombie]

In only when the price reaches £5 mark. Completed this game so many times on PSX, don't even know if I'll enjoy it.

Let me say it this way: REmake was designed to play with your expectations so even if you beat the original (PSX) version hundreds of times, this game will still manage surprise you a lot. It wasn't just a graphical boost, whole areas were completely added, removed or redesigned.

 

[Jinko]

and I encourage all of you to do the same, if only just to send a message to Capcom. REmake has never been a huge commercial success.

Nah, fed up with these lazy port ups.

It's about time we put our foot down if you ask me, but it seems a lot of people are just happy to throw more money at these companies.

I've given up hope on seeing a true RE game, I have high hopes for The Evil Within though.

 

[MilkyJoe]

"Resident Evil 4 would have been a more scary, horror-focused game if the remake had sold well.”

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT, people. You are responsible.

Spoiler

I bought REmake on Gamecube, I even bought RE0. I kinda liked it

Where's this quote from? Short answer, I didn't own a fucking game cube!!!!

 

[Toxa]

Resident Evil 1: Remake (1.35 million)
Resident Evil Zero (1.25 million)
Resident Evil Outbreak (1.45 million)

outbreak sold better

Capcom sold over 1.35 million copies of the game. Nevertheless, Shinji Mikami said that the Resident Evil franchise later shifted away from the survival horror gameplay following the "commercial failure" of this game. The perceived poor reception of a horror-focused game prompted Mikami and his producers to incorporate more action-based elements into future Resident Evil games, starting with Resident Evil 4.