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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT2| Wake Me Up, Yaya Sanogo
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fadetoblack
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I don't understand how we're linked to Jack Wilshire. Anyway, it's not going to happen but my impression was that he was Arsenal's midfield version of Giovinco.
Vivalaraza
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Ramsey better than Yaya Toure?
:lol
:lol
He is never leaving England.
The_Hitcher89
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He was last season, so he is atm imo ynwa tldr
If he does it again this season, I'd say he's absolutely superior. Similar to Sturridge kind of.
I don't know, but I do remember that stat that of Yaya's 20 goals last season, only 2 of them actually influenced the result of a game. the rest were scored when City were 3-0, 4-0, etc. up
31%
Ramsey played next to Arteta.
Yaya was next to Fernando.
Put Ramsey next to Fernando and Rambo is the best midfielder in the world.
I'll trade you Wilshere for Pogba.
The_Hitcher89
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Broder Salsa
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Arguing over which footballer is better than the other is fucking stupid either way. I do find it funny how people try to undersell Yaya's contribution to City all the time though.
The_Hitcher89
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Why? I like it.
Diablo Rosso
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That's not a fair trade.
KidA Seven
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@ManUtd 52s
#mufc reserves vs Manchester City: J Pereira; Vermijl, McNair, Thorpe, Varela; Janko, Pearson, Rothwell, Lawrence; A Pereira; Wilson.
Subs. Harrop. O'hara. Goss Willock. C. Evans
Harrop and Goss are talented players too who just made the step up to the u21s. I see both as potentially being squad players in the future if their development goes well. Goss is basically another carrick. He's slow, but can score long range goals and has games where his passing is great like Carrick in his best years.
#mufc reserves vs Manchester City: J Pereira; Vermijl, McNair, Thorpe, Varela; Janko, Pearson, Rothwell, Lawrence; A Pereira; Wilson.
Subs. Harrop. O'hara. Goss Willock. C. Evans
Harrop and Goss are talented players too who just made the step up to the u21s. I see both as potentially being squad players in the future if their development goes well. Goss is basically another carrick. He's slow, but can score long range goals and has games where his passing is great like Carrick in his best years.
Arsenal fans, that's why.
If you're talking about perceived potential I'd disagree with you. If we're talking about current skill, no.
Diablo Rosso
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Jack will never fulfil his potential because of his lifestyle.
fadetoblack
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If you're position is that Pogba is and will continue to be a better footballer, then you are correct.
He is more the midfield version of Diana Ross.
The_Hitcher89
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Jack's potential is slipping away fast. Pogba is getting better month-by-month, Wilshere's place in the team is, or should be, up for grabs
KidA Seven
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Class of 92 vs Salford City FC
Diablo Rosso
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looooooooooooooooooool
He is 22. This is as laughable as when people say this season is make or break for him. Less game time will probably be good for him honestly.
Why?
He isn't an elite midfielder. It's not like signing Pogba or Fabregas or Vidal.
It's like signing Victor Wanyama for twice the asking price.
The_Hitcher89
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Does Beckham get invited to these things?
KidA Seven
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He's young so he could have a break through season. On the other hand, he could flop. There's no way of knowing, but at the very least he'll break up attacks better than Flamini and Arteta. Arsenal will improve.
Stahp. Please. make it stahp.
How many times have you seen him play for Sporting?
Absolutely no one said that.
The_Hitcher89
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Is he an important player or does he just fill an important role, if you know what I mean?
KidA Seven
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You guys could have gotten Kiyotake. What are you guys doing?
The latter.
that's too bad. I like him.
That may have involved some money mate. Or the ability to buy a fucking midfielder. Something Lambert apparently regards as not a problem.
We are SO FUCKED.
Perfect Blue
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Ramsey better than Toure? ehhhhhh
Can't choose. I think Ramsey can control the game more than Toure and his form was consistent while Yaya looks hella lazy sometimes.
Can't choose. I think Ramsey can control the game more than Toure and his form was consistent while Yaya looks hella lazy sometimes.
I don't really think there is much of a distinction but if you want to split hairs, he fills an important role. Provides cover at many positions and is a very capable starter. He's a great player to have on the team -- I think he will end up signing a new deal at some point personally but I guess we'll see.
The_Hitcher89
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Fuck knows how much damage his injuries did, but do you really have faith in him reaching the heights that he was on track to reach when he was 18 or 19? He's a worse player now than he was then, and shows very few signs of getting back onto the upward curve, let alone a curve steep enough to reach the level he should have
I just wanted to use William Alfonso Ribeiro Carvalho in a sentence.
Plus I think Steve Bould can work his magic on him.
KidA Seven
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Am I the only one that thinks Carvalho looks like Chris Webber?
Yes? He is 22. By all accounts his ankles are fine.
His all around game is better now than it was then. His biggest issue right now is trying to do too much, which is the same problem Ramsey had.
He is much better going forward and in the box than he was in his first season. I think it's a case of people overrating his first season and underrating his past 2 seasons. He was very good when he came back from his 17 months out. Arsenal fans were going crazy over how well he was playing.
Again, no one said that and Viv/Hix/L1N have all collectively misread the posts.
Over the initial period of the season (August-Dec), when their stats were comparable, Ramsey was better was what I was saying.
Perfect Blue
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