CountAntonius
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Terrible turn of events that will probably drown out the positive message of the protesters and further hurt their cause. Really fucked up. Hope everyone comes out of this safe.
Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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Askherserenity
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Who gives a fuck about the law? You should just NOT be an asshole. It's not like cops own these stores. These people are just taking advantage of the situation and don't give a fuck about what happened with the boy. It sucks for everyone else that was having a peaceful protest earlier.
Can't tell if you're joking.
RIP young man.jamesinclair
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It's called insurance.
Sadly, in this country riots tend to get more shit done than peaceful protests
HuskerDutheDu
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I should clarify, I saw a twitpic. But it wouldn't surprise me with most police forces having some version of this:
Not a joke, they are usually brought in during major riots. That said they're usually just for show- can't think of any case where folks got Tienanmened.
There's some of that going on, but if law enforcement hadn't failed, those folks wouldn't have had the chance to do this. This isn't excusing the behavior, it's just placing blame where appropiate.
I live a town over from Sanford when the Trayvon Martin incident happened and there wasn't any looting during the incident* or when the verdict was read. It's not the natural course of action by any stretch.
* in or around Sanford, I heard there was something in Miami but I thought that was fake.
Askherserenity
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No, it's not. That's fucking dumb.
foxuzamaki
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Theres apparently riots going on near here
I went to check the stream. It's ridiculous, but for some reason it still seems possible.
But no, there are no tanks.
yet.
edit: oh, maybe a swat tank thing. that doesn't have a cannon on it.
Even so looting and causing harm to people not even involved with the Cops is retarded and a lot of these people I hope get sent to Jail, same with the cop who started this all.
People are rioting out of frustration because there is literally no other outlet to the violence and fear that they live in. LA riots weren't about getting free fucking stuff. Its an outlet being let out, as there is no system in place for minorities to get actual justice. There is 0 representation of the rights of civilians in our government. All you get is your neighborhood being infected with drugs by the CIA, tested on, and not chosen when it comes times to getting hired. That is why this keeps happening, because they keep killing people and nothing happens. People riot when their emotions are high, its what folks do around the world.
What are these people going to go home to? Good jobs? Safe streets? Opportunity? Strong nuclear family? I get that its cool to thumb a nose down at the specific idiots who are just opportunists, but the overall problem is much more important than the leading idea is that people associate a dead teen with a new vcr.
You speak as if there is some sort of choice/option. The fact = The police get away with it. There is no other solution, there is no other option, there is nothing. Rioting isn't on the list of possible options to thwart police abuse. Its not done to help/harm. Its not part of a platform. Its a riot because people are helpless.
HuskerDutheDu
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Here's the pic that's circulating:
http://instagram.com/p/rixiC1MNMQ/
I don't know if it's fake or not or if I'm dumb for not immediately thinking it's fake.
Bluekaveli
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That picture quality
Isn't that a picture of a train with some type of armored vehicle in transit?
jamesinclair
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Yup, that's a train folks
Thats military hardware being moved via train. Pretty common actually. Bad luck on the timing though, that'll probably ruffle some feathers in all the wrong ways.
Yes totally frustrations are high but destroying your community doesn't help anything and makes every become worse afterwards when you are either sent to jail or you yourself are stolen from and have nothing left.
Scott32020
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Reporter on that fox feed just said more shots fired (near the Wal-Mart?)
No that looks like military hardware being moved.
As horrible as it is.... change usually comes from violence more often than not. And there's a lot of change that needs to happen.
kame-sennin
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When people are living under a violent occupation, with no say in government, no economic resources, and no protection against their occupiers, rioting is a common - and often logical - response. We all know that rioting is a very dangerous weapon because a riot can not be controlled. But it is also a very effective weapon. It does damage to property - no, the people do not own that property, the corporate state does, and they have a vested interest in protecting it. Attacking the corporate state by hitting their wallet gets their attention and is more likely to cause a change in policy than a peaceful protest or (lol) writing to your congressperson. It's unfortunate that this is what's happening, but when a riot breaks out, you only help the occupiers by criticizing the powerless who are understandably lashing out or trying to get resources that are denied to them under the capitalist system.
HuskerDutheDu
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You're most likely right. Sorry for bringing misinformation here.
And the owners will take the insurance check and move the fuck out of the area. Does wonders for the community.
Fantastic post, was just about to post something similar but you said it better then I could have.
Again dunga what do you think the people stealing are "thinking"? You know the answer is nothing. Right? That they aren't thinking? So when you're highly frustrated, you might not be the most rational person. Its why we have crimes of passion. The world understands that at times, you don't think.
You can comprehend that select people do things, without thinking them out fully. Right?
Bluekaveli
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Police can shoot unarmed kids but can't do anything to real criminals lmfao
The corporate state will not be harmed at all. They are insured. They don't care about a single location in the St. Louis suburbs. You think corporations are going to do anything to contain police brutality? That's a laugh.
What?
PhoenixDark
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fucking shame that a peaceful, well thought out protest is now irrelevant and forever marred by some piece of shit kids using anything as an excuse to loot.
If you're going to riot, do so after the inevitable not guilty verdict. All this does is mar the movement.
If you're going to riot, do so after the inevitable not guilty verdict. All this does is mar the movement.
jamesinclair
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Exactly this.
Remember occupy?
100pcnt peaceful and they got attacked by riot police and their grievances weren't heard.
Break some Windows and suddenly you have the attention of city hall
Never said I didn't agree with that. I just said if cops hadn't been dumb and the sheer amount of attention this has received over the past few months, that something like this was inevitable.
jamesinclair
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Gas station, convenience store, auto parts store, McDonald's..
What community? It already doesn't exist.
Those stores are directed at people driving by, not the neighborhood.
In what world are the business owners in this situation the "real criminals"?
Yes but what I still don't get is why people think that something that hasn't affected them personally they should be mad about. I mean heck even the family members of the victim are telling these idiots to leave and go home and they should be the most pissed off.
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CountAntonius
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I'm trying to figure out what changed thanks to the LA riots because of the Rodney King beatings. Seeing as how LAPD is one of the worst agencies still in terms of brutality I don't think it did much positive.
My apologies.
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Fuck that, it was all over the news, unheard my ass.
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