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[Squirrel Killer]

Wonder how many people just searched on facebook for 'people named Darren Wilson who live in Missouri'.

Not I. I just Googled it as soon as I heard it before the results became overrun with news reports.

Interesting result. If it wasn't for the fact that I've lost all trust in the police, I'd wonder if the reason for the delay in releasing the name was to avoid this guy getting confused with the shooter.

 

[Malyse]

Hmm... I want to see how bad the robbery was if he was indeed in it. No longer the sweet innocent puppy people make out, but the question would still stand, was the shooting justified?

Personally I think American cops are too quick to pull the trigger, and too many times shoot to kill.

Doesn't fucking matter. Cops aren't executioners. They don't get to make that call.

 

[InfiniteBento]

Yep. Now Fox News will have it's game-plan. Always mention the robbery when talking about the Brown case.

"Brown was confronted by the police in connection to a robbery that took place" they'll say. Change the narrative. And in a few days everyone will think that the kid was a hardened criminal.

That's so fucked because he wasn't even linked to the robbery. He didn't even state how they were connected at all. It sounds like they just suspected it was him and confronted him then all of this happened. It sounds like a dirty way to justify all of this, honestly. I want solid proof because right now this is all up in the air.

You would think they would have mentioned the robbery days ago instead of just throwing this shit out there like this.

 

[Renta]

Yep. Now Fox News will have it's game-plan. Always mention the robbery when talking about the Brown case.

"Brown was confronted by the police in connection to a robbery that took place" they'll say. Change the narrative. And in a few days everyone will think that the kid was a hardened criminal.

I hate this. I hate this so much. Wonder which question I'll have to ask folks, "So he deserved to die?" or "Oh, so his life just isnt worth anything after the fact?"

 

[GK86]

That's going to be the take away by some people it seems and that was what the guy was attempting to do by even mentioning that in the press conference. To link the two. To somehow justify what the shooter did and influence public opinion. It's going to backfire of course just how every action by the police there have. Given the stupid and horrible actions by the police there it's not unexpected they would continue to pull crap like this.

7 posts above yours someone already believes Mike was part of the robbery.

 

[CrankyJay]

There's the name.

So a reporter had it right yesterday.

 

[Big Baybee]

So they approached him because there was an armed robbery in the area?

 

[Jacksinthe]

The robbery information seemed like it was just dropped to muddy the water. To lead people into thinking the shooting was connected to a robbery. At least how it was presented. Not at all necessary if they were just identifying the name of the shooter.

Well if the officer was responding to a strongarm robbery then that does give insight into his possible thought process and increase in fight/flight anxiety approaching a situation. Much like that one woman that assaulted and called the cops on a kid with a quadcopter accusing him of voyeur photography. Those cops came down on him locked and loaded armed with only that information, which his own video later showed was false AFTER they restrained him when the woman was at fault the entire time.

Not saying the robbery detail was completely relevant but it may give at least some insight to the officer's perceived threat level of responding to a robbery.

 

[May16]

Hmm... I want to see how bad the robbery was if he was indeed in it. No longer the sweet innocent puppy people make out, but the question would still stand, was the shooting justified?

Personally I think American cops are too quick to pull the trigger, and too many times shoot to kill.

And there it is, rock bottom.

 

[JDSN]

Hmm... I want to see how bad the robbery was if he was indeed in it. No longer the sweet innocent puppy people make out, but the question would still stand, was the shooting justified?

Personally I think American cops are too quick to pull the trigger, and too many times shoot to kill.

Christ, what a Darren Wilson.

 

[CountBlack]

From the reports..

 

[Dreams-Visions]

That's so fucked because he wasn't even linked to the robbery. He didn't even state how they were connected at all. It sounds like they just suspected it was him and confronted him then all of this happened. It sounds like a dirty way to justify all of this, honestly. I want solid proof because right now this is all up in the air.

You would think they would have mentioned the robbery days ago instead of just throwing this shit out there like this.

Often times, all you have to be to "fit the description" is be black and male, somewhere between 5' 8" - 6' 2", and between 140lbs-180lbs.

No further connections are required.

 

[slit]

Darren Wilson, we speak your name.

That name was spoken yesterday and the chief panicked. That's probably why they felt they had to release the name.

 

[Blader]

Black people make up all of 12% of the US population. I'm going to be painfully honest, there is very little we can do on our own without the help of a larger subset of the US population; but when the rest of the country doesn't give a shit. It absolutely sends a message to the rest of us and slowly but surely kills our morale.

This, after paragraphs of shitting on anyone and everyone else because they belong to white America. You say that you can't make progress without others giving a shit, but you just said you'd prefer if they don't give a shit!

Because this whole thing:

I'm tired of fucking hipster douche silver spoon fucks co-opting everything then dumping it when it's no longer "trendy". Like those fucks who wear those "I Am Trayvon Martin" shirts. No you're not, you're a white kid from the burbs who majored in fucking Art History while living off your trustfund. This will never be your reality; you sit in front of your computer making stupid caption pictures and sharing it with your friends, many of which don't give a single fuck. You then scour the internet for the next tragedy you can be a part of. Many of these assholes don't give a fuck past surface level interest. They sit in their little coffee shops drinking their overpriced shit water talking about "those poor black people, if only there was something like we could totes do". There is fecal breath, stop sharing those stupid images with dumb captions about "Civil Rights man!" and organize sit ins, gather people in your community to talk to your governor. Your facebook crusade is a crock of shit, I'd rather these people do nothing.

Is cartoon anger. You're furious at caricatures in your head. White kids from the suburbs who majored in art history and live off trust funds? Starbucks hipsters knocking out screenplays on their Macs while retweeting Al-Jazeera links they only half-understand? What the fuck? Not only are these total cliches, but they're cliches that you're indulging in just because they're easier to be mad at than actual people.

I get the frustration (or maybe I don't; after all I am a white kid from the suburbs so maybe I'm biologically incapable of getting it). But this kind of screaming at no one -- and grouping together the people that express sympathy or outrage just as silver-spoon, wannabe activists -- is about as helpful as those crock of shit Facebook crusades you hate.

And I agree with nearly all of your post re: the legacy of, and obliviousness toward, institutional racism in America. But this fuck white people section rubs me the wrong way and seems incredibly counter-intuitive to anything, really.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Hopefully those packets facilitate more information spilling out. I don't want to be presumptuous, but it sort of seems like if they were really trying to tie Brown as a suspect, they would have made that more clear than just referring to "a robbery" that was simply "nearby." But I don't know. Maybe there's clear video of Mike Brown robbing that store and they're just going to let that speak for itself. Not that it would justify the shooting by any stretch, but it just seems like this is a detail that you would release prior to now if there was anything substantial to tie Brown to a crime.

 

[Big Baybee]

This, after paragraphs of shitting on anyone and everyone else because they belong to white America. You can't make progress without others giving a shit, but you just said you'd prefer if they don't give a shit!

Because this whole thing:



Is cartoon anger. You're furious at caricatures in your head. White kids from the suburbs who majored in art history and live off trust funds? Starbucks hipsters knocking out screenplays on their Macs while retweeting Al-Jazeera links they only half-understand? What the fuck? Not only are these total cliches, but they're cliches that you're indulging in just because they're easier to be mad at than actual people.

I get the frustration (or maybe I don't; after all I am a white kid from the suburbs so maybe I'm biologically incapable of getting it). But this kind of screaming at no one -- and grouping together the people that express sympathy or outrage just as silver-spoon, wannabe activists -- is about as helpful as those crock of shit Facebook crusades you hate.

And I agree with nearly all of your post re: the legacy of, and obliviousness toward, institutional racism in America. But this fuck white people section rubs me the wrong way and seems incredibly counter-intuitive to anything, really.

He's not saying fuck white people at all. He is saying white people should get off their asses and fucking do something.

 

[CornDogg]

From the reports..

Damn. Interested in seeing the video myself, though.

 

[Malyse]

This, after paragraphs of shitting on anyone and everyone else because they belong to white America. You say that you can't make progress without others giving a shit, but you just said you'd prefer if they don't give a shit!

Because this whole thing:



Is cartoon anger. You're furious at caricatures in your head. White kids from the suburbs who majored in art history and live off trust funds? Starbucks hipsters knocking out screenplays on their Macs while retweeting Al-Jazeera links they only half-understand? What the fuck? Not only are these total cliches, but they're cliches that you're indulging in just because they're easier to be mad at than actual people.

I get the frustration (or maybe I don't; after all I am a white kid from the suburbs so maybe I'm biologically incapable of getting it). But this kind of screaming at no one -- and grouping together the people that express sympathy or outrage just as silver-spoon, wannabe activists -- is about as helpful as those crock of shit Facebook crusades you hate.

And I agree with nearly all of your post re: the legacy of, and obliviousness toward, institutional racism in America. But this fuck white people section rubs me the wrong way and seems incredibly counter-intuitive to anything, really.

Hmm. Do you think the Ferguson riots served any purpose?

 

[DECK'ARD]

From the reports..

So the sweet thing is true then? That was mentioned around the time of the shooting.

 

[JDSN]

Thats a really great work of fiction, Elmore Leonard would be proud.

 

[Big Baybee]

I'm having a hard time believing this. If he did rob a store and was involved in a robbery why wouldn't they release that information immediately?

 

[BFIB]

Hopefully those packets facilitate more information spilling out. I don't want to be presumptuous, but it sort of seems like if they were really trying to tie Brown as a suspect, they would have made that more clear than just referring to "a robbery" that was simply "nearby." But I don't know. Maybe there's clear video of Mike Brown robbing that store and they're just going to let that speak for itself, I don't know. Not that it would justify the shooting by any stretch, but it just seems like this is a detail that you would release prior to now if there was anything substantial to tie Brown to a crime.

If that's the case, then the right wing media and the NRA will be coming out in droves. I really, really hope he is not involved in any sort of robbery, and was an extreme victim of circumstance.

 

[InfiniteBento]

From the reports..

You would've think something as significant as a robbery would've been mentioned from day 1. How the fuck does almost an entire week go by before this is tied to this? I want to see the videos.

And honestly, this still doesn't justify the action of the police officer. It truly doesn't. He could've detained him, he wasn't armed. He didn't have to kill him.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I'm having a hard time believing this. If he did rob a store and was involved in a robbery why wouldn't they release that information immediately?

That's what I'm saying

 

[CrankyJay]

From the reports..

If true...and not saying it is (maybe they will release the video), doesn't this make Dorian Johnson a liar? He said he wasn't hanging out with Mike Brown until he saw him walking down the street, and ran up to catch up with him.

This report makes it sound like he was with him the entire time.

 

[Lemonz]

Photos of the robbery being shown.

Doesn't look like Micheal Brown to me.

 

[marrec]

So he was killed because he might have taken a pack of swisher sweets from a store?

 

[DECK'ARD]

I'm having a hard time believing this. If he did rob a store and was involved in a robbery why wouldn't they release that information immediately?

Stealing some sweets was mentioned around the time of the shooting, not sure where it came from though.

 

[Mesousa]

I'm having a hard time believing this. If he did rob a store and was involved in a robbery why wouldn't they release that information immediately?

Because they had to make up this story.

This is clear character assassination by Ferguson/St.Louis PD.

 

[Portugeezer]

You would've think something as significant as a robbery would've been mentioned from day 1. How the fuck does almost an entire week go by before this is tied to this? I want to see the videos.

And honestly, this still doesn't justify the action of the police officer. It truly doesn't. He could've detained him, he wasn't armed. He didn't have to kill him.

This. Just because I discuss whether he was in a robbery or whether he did match some police description (hope we get exactly what the description was) doesn't mean shooting to kill was justified.

 

[Evil Monkey DTT]

They mention they have some video? I assume they are going to release it. They also vaguely mentioned some stuff about a description, then a "more detailed" description.

I can only think they have some evidence relating him to the robbery.

It doesn't matter, even if the official story is true it doesn't change the fact that it was murder. It also doesn't change anything that the police did the night before, it's inexcusable.

 

[ced]

Robbery is irrelevant.

What happened between him and the officer that ended up with him being shot? Is there an official police report of this or surveillance footage not released?

 

[Agnostic]

Goldie Taylor ‏@goldietaylor 2m
6 rellos isn't 'robbery'. It's shoplifting. But chief wants this to sound dangerous.

I should have been executed for stealing alcohol when I was a teenager.

 

[BFIB]

Once again, these cops are making this situation worse. Being vague, then throwing out packets to the media for them to sort it out is fucking ridiculous.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

If you're black and a suspect you should be executed -- well, all blacks are suspects that need to be executed like animals.

That's the takeaway here.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

So he was killed because he might have taken a pack of swisher sweets from a store?

No, that would be because he attempted to wrestle a gun away from a police officer, according to prior statements.

Let's see these videotapes, I say.

 

[slit]

If doesn't matter if he did rob the store. From what the witnesses say he was gunned down in cold blood. Of course the institution defenders will cling to this like fuzz on a peach.

 

[BronsonLee]

Once again, these cops are making this situation worse. Being vague, then throwing out packets to the media for them to sort it out is fucking ridiculous.

Yeah, them handing out packets? Not answering questions? The last time they allowed questions, the news shouted out who the suspect was before anybody knew.

 

[InfiniteBento]

So he was killed because he might have taken a pack of swisher sweets from a store?

That's pretty much what it sounds like which makes my blood BOIL.

They're trying to turn the tides and frankly, I hope this doesn't happen.

 

[LiK]

I'm having a hard time believing this. If he did rob a store and was involved in a robbery why wouldn't they release that information immediately?

My thoughts exactly. Why didn't he mention this is his other interviews/pressers?

 

[JDSN]

If Johnson was involved why was he actively seeking the police to give testimony of what happened?

 

[marrec]

Muddy the waters. Attach him to a 'robbery' that might or might not have taken place. Call it a 'robbery' instead of 'shoplifting' and don't explain anything else further.

 

[everyday math]

But even if he did rob...how does that equal to being killed?

 

[Badosh]

We just now find out about a supposed robbery that happened around the same time? Yeah, sure.

 

[epmode]

@WesleyLowery: "The officer who was involved in the shooting of Michael Brown was Darren Wilson..."

The language in these statements makes me crazy. Police never shoot people, they're just involved in shootings.

 

[BFIB]

Well, the PD is getting exactly what they wanted. Already your seeing reports of if he was tied to the robbery or not. PD wants to spin this another way, and the media is going to pick it up on it for sure.

 

[InfiniteBento]

But even if he did rob...how does that equal to being killed?

It really doesn't. They have tasers and batons for detaining suspects but apparently killing someone is way easier.

 

[DECK'ARD]

We just now find out about a supposed robbery that happened around the same time? Yeah, sure.

It was mentioned at the time of the shooting, I can remember people saying he was shot for stealing some sweets?

 

[slit]

But even if he did rob...how does that equal to being killed?

It doesn't. It's the Roddney King offensive defense. "Yeah, but look what he did beforehand"

 

[ErasureAcer]

Can the police chief get any more dumb? Guy is bumbling idiot who implies Brown was stopped and killed because someone had a gun at gas station in a robbery attempt. Fucking pathetic. Releases the absolute minimum on the officer involved and walks away when the press asks him to repeat the spelling. This guy needs to be fired immediately.