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Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING
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If it was just the one time, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but she has already been damselled twice. Once when the Dai Li Drill Sargeant grabbed her, and Kai was specifically the one to save her from this, and the second when the poachers kidnapped her, where again, Kai leads the assault on the guys who took his woman away.
Now it's happening again, when it really should be Jinora who confronted the people trying to kill her father. She's the one who is actually experienced in fighting and I think that should count for a lot more than 'boldness'.
Now it's happening again, when it really should be Jinora who confronted the people trying to kill her father. She's the one who is actually experienced in fighting and I think that should count for a lot more than 'boldness'.
The Silver
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The Red Lotus
should be a sizable organization, maybe the last episode will be them coming out in full force and thus leading into the Book 4.
Yep felt it alot as well
I hope not.
If it has to be yet another Deus Ex Machina, then Toph Ex Machina is the one for me. Although, she probably won't appear until Book 4, if she ever does.
But it probably will be Jinora once again and out-floats Zaheer or something with Laghima's teachings.
Geez .
I want to see Zukos daughter kick ass
true, but it still fits his character then. even if it anoys you 
jinora is well more reversed and to say she is more expirienced in fighting is a gues. she is trained in bending, but i bet her experience is rather lacking. kai's past seemed rather troubled so he should be more experienced. (not bending ofc but fighting in general)
and damn, think about the situation they are in, jinora is paniking and afraid. :O
that said. For her characterprogression, specially after all this "i am an airbending master too." talk, it would be helpfull and id like to see more from her.
jinora is well more reversed and to say she is more expirienced in fighting is a gues. she is trained in bending, but i bet her experience is rather lacking. kai's past seemed rather troubled so he should be more experienced. (not bending ofc but fighting in general)
and damn, think about the situation they are in, jinora is paniking and afraid. :O
that said. For her characterprogression, specially after all this "i am an airbending master too." talk, it would be helpfull and id like to see more from her.
Korra reconnecting with the past Avatar, in fact I am expecting it.
Nah it's cool as Jinora will tell us how good of an airbender she is rather than showing us. Honestly Jinora is my second least favourite character after Korra herself.
true, but it still fits his character then. even if it anoys you
jinora is well more reversed and to say she is more expirienced in fighting is a gues. she is trained in bending, but i bet her experience is rather lacking. kai's past seemed rather troubled so he should be more experienced. (not bending ofc but fighting in general)
and damn, think about the situation they are in, jinora is paniking and afraid. :O
that said. For her characterprogression, specially after all this "i am an airbending master too." talk, it would be helpfull and id like to see more from her.
Some criticisms are about writing inconsistancies, others are whether a piece of wriitng is conceptually problematic. This is the latter. It's not out of character, but all of Kai's heroic moments have essentially been at the expense of Jinora's agency and capability. If this isn't necessarily bad writing, then it's still not the progressive, forward thinking, and empowering writing that TLA had plenty of. And it's repetitive, since this has happened 3 times at this point. If circumstances are going to keep Jinora needing to be saved, then the smart thing to do would be to just keep her in a room where she can stay away from the action. Bonus sexism points if that room is the kitchen.
MidnightCowboy
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I love how light Tenzin is on his feet compared to Zaheer. I thought Zaheer was OP before this fight, but he just wasn't going up against true masters.
Phoenician_Viking
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I am really bothered by the fact that Korra lost communication with her past lives, and all she does is whine about it. How about try to find out how to regain that power, knowledge and wisdom instead of wishing she could talk to them.
At the beginning of this season, Korra showed that she is training with becoming more spiritual, and that showed character development. I wonder if Korra will ever communicate with the spirits and get knowledge from them like Aang did. She could have spoke to some spirits in the spirit world about how to regain her past lives back. Some of them might know. It really annoys me how oblivious she is to the world around her. It seems the White Lotus are useless in teaching the Avatar these kind of essential things, about spirituality, her connection with the spirits (she is the gateway between the real world and spiritual world), and about no creating a conflict. As far as i am concerned Korra declared war on the earth kingdom by taking her citizens in spite of her. Yeah, that might not seem like a fair critic, but that is essentially what Korra did.
Korra is not welcomed in Republic City, or the Earth kingdom. Korra cannot afford to piss of country leaders, or the only places that she will have left are North and South pole because of her family heirloom. She won´t be able to maintain balance if she keeps getting alienated by leaders of different countries.
Zaheer is right about how the WL have strayed from their original paths.
As far as the title of this book "Change" i want to see changes in Korra, WL going back to their original purpose, or be dissolved, character development for the rest of the Krew.
Korra is not welcomed in Republic City, or the Earth kingdom. Korra cannot afford to piss of country leaders, or the only places that she will have left are North and South pole because of her family heirloom. She won´t be able to maintain balance if she keeps getting alienated by leaders of different countries.
Zaheer is right about how the WL have strayed from their original paths.
As far as the title of this book "Change" i want to see changes in Korra, WL going back to their original purpose, or be dissolved, character development for the rest of the Krew.
Hero Prinny
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i don't know if its been discussed before but whatever, the thing I don't like about korra is that she erased all past avatars. like what a fuck up. Now how will I ever see Wan again? pls writers, let her get the past avatars again and give me a wan cameo.
Whining and complaining about something is what Korra does best, remember she had everything handed to her thus making her stubborn, impatient and spoilt. Whereas the past Avatar actually went through hardship while learning and growing along the way.
theyre doing what they did to asami in book 2 - this should be jinora's story where she proves her worth after all that she's been through, but shiptrash has to happen so kai gets to be the knight in shining armor.
she should have been saving him all this time, not the other way around. it would lend more credence to the idea that she deserves her tattoos if she's actively saving people with her bending to show that she's really a well-rounded air nomad, yet they've done everything in their power to show the opposite. it's grating.
and dont even get me started on that line about zuko knowing aang better than anyone (implying better than KATARA HIS WIFE). like........... fuck off. this show drives me nuts over this shit.
she should have been saving him all this time, not the other way around. it would lend more credence to the idea that she deserves her tattoos if she's actively saving people with her bending to show that she's really a well-rounded air nomad, yet they've done everything in their power to show the opposite. it's grating.
and dont even get me started on that line about zuko knowing aang better than anyone (implying better than KATARA HIS WIFE). like........... fuck off. this show drives me nuts over this shit.
Hidden One
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Tenzin was whooping that ass until Zaheers butt budies showed up.
I hope Tenzin isn't dead
victreeb3l
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Yeah seriously. This made me furious last season. There have been so many deus ex machinas in Korra so the one I would completely be okay with is if they did an asspull and brought all the past Avatars back somehow.
Getting rid of the past avatars is actually pretty bold from a writing standpoint. I hope they stick with it but if there is anything in the series likely to get retconned it would be that.
As far as character deaths are concerned out of all the main cast members it makes the most sense for Tenzin to get the axe if anyone at all. His training with Korra is complete and killing him would have the largest implications
As far as Su is concerned, it makes little to no sense she would be Red Lotus. It would be a pretty lame twist unless the Red Lotus was much much larger than what we were led to believe. She is just too new a character and the implications of her being Red Lotus does not match up at all with her putting her family and city in jeopardy.
Also, Tenzin isn't dead...yet.
As far as Su is concerned, it makes little to no sense she would be Red Lotus. It would be a pretty lame twist unless the Red Lotus was much much larger than what we were led to believe. She is just too new a character and the implications of her being Red Lotus does not match up at all with her putting her family and city in jeopardy.
Also, Tenzin isn't dead...yet.
Hidden One
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Also I really hope Korra learns energy bending again and takes the red lotus bending.
DragonKnight
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Her training is complete? It took her 10+ yrs to master water, fire, and earth.
Astral Dog
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General Iroh and president Raiko come at the last moment with the republic city army to kick ass
obijkenobi
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Completely random question, has it ever been said if Sokka ever gets married/has kids?
Admiral Woofington
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Nope. I assume he married Suki and maybe has descendants until said otherwise. They already ruined my zuko relationship.
obijkenobi
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I was just curious since Tenzin and family have never mentioned having cousins and such.
Knowing this show, he grew up to be a wife better and has kids with a bunch of women.
Icyflamez96
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Can someone remind me how ATLA season 1 and 2 finales were Deus Ex Mach
inas?
Human Revolution
OldAsUrSock
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You could even still argue she has not mastered them as well as Aang did.
Admiral Woofington
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You know.... that's a depressing thought haha.
They weren't as a whole, but the set ups were pretty clumsy. Yue in particular was just created to be a sacrifice the episode before. Meanwhile, the spirit water katara carried around wasn't mentioned the whole season except for in the finale, so it was just created to bring aang back. When a plot device is just there to reverse some problem in the plot, it comes off as artificial and inorganic, even if it was set up beforehand.
WrenchNinja
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It's not bold at all. She barely talked to her past lives to begin with.
Actually, Pakku gives the spirit water to Katara at the beginning of Season 2's first episode.
I know, that's what I meant. It was given the first episode for season 2, ignored for 19 episodes, then it became relevant the moment aang life is in danger, aside from the zuko moment that happened in the same episode
I know, I'm just saying it would look better if it was implemented more organically.
LightOfTruth
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God damn Tenzin is a badass.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Well tbf if your given rare magical water with super healing capabilities your not going to use it at the first opportunity, you'll probably also won't mention it all the time (what purpose does that serve). There's no real issue with the logic. It was a special item used during a dire time. Sorta like what happens in real life,
Good episode
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Tenzin got to show his stuff very good this time, in fact it was the most capable he's been since the show started. Makes me wonder how he could be taken prisoner before along with his family by Amons troops. You think an airbender in the sky would have had the advantage over anything coming at them.
I don't believe they'll kill him but damn what a shocker that would be if they did. Imagine Korra racing to the temple to save everyone only to find the ruins and Tenzin's body strung up. Could be shades of Aangs old teachers skeleton left behind basically.
Originally I thought Korra would win by taking their bending away but upon thinking about it going to say instead she dumps them into that spirit place where peoples spirits get trapped and go mad. An eternal prison for prisoners who escaped their physical one. Seems poetic for this group.
One more thing.
Did anyone else notice that Zuko appeared to be suprised about hearing Iroh was in the spirit world? It was assumed by most that he knew and that Iroh at the end of his life decided to go there but that might not have exactly been fully the case at all or Zuko would not have had such a reaction as he did.
I don't believe they'll kill him but damn what a shocker that would be if they did. Imagine Korra racing to the temple to save everyone only to find the ruins and Tenzin's body strung up. Could be shades of Aangs old teachers skeleton left behind basically.
Originally I thought Korra would win by taking their bending away but upon thinking about it going to say instead she dumps them into that spirit place where peoples spirits get trapped and go mad. An eternal prison for prisoners who escaped their physical one. Seems poetic for this group.
One more thing.
Did anyone else notice that Zuko appeared to be suprised about hearing Iroh was in the spirit world? It was assumed by most that he knew and that Iroh at the end of his life decided to go there but that might not have exactly been fully the case at all or Zuko would not have had such a reaction as he did.
- She doesn't believe in world leaders
- She has a tendency to bring in criminals to help her out
- If the picture of her traveling circus days is any indication, she knows Zaheer
Oh shit!
- She has a tendency to bring in criminals to help her out
- If the picture of her traveling circus days is any indication, she knows Zaheer
Oh shit!
Also,
please don't die, Tenzin. You're too awesome.
Icyflamez96
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Now i'm not one who was ever on the evil Su train, but I feel like there are a lot of clues.
Infernoabyss
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Dat soundtrack. Anyone hear a little bit ATLA feel going on when :
But i'm loving this book soundtrack. It's amazing. Favorite is zaheer fight theme so far.
kai was flying around and fighting p'li
But i'm loving this book soundtrack. It's amazing. Favorite is zaheer fight theme so far.
NHarmonic.
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To be honest, i was expecting
Great episode, Tenzin using the
Sue to hand over Korra to Zaheer in anyway she could to prevent Opal from getting harmed... it could still happen though, betrayal incoming...
Great episode, Tenzin using the
"horizontal" move Aang does on the extended title screen sequence was specially really amazing.
Admiral Woofington
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Holy shit that was awesome
Tenzin I've been hoping you were a badass fighting but god damn you fucking wrecked Zaheer he stood no chance till he had to get help. It was painful to see him beaten up like that I forgive you for that awkward episode of your insecurities :'(. By far Tenzin's moment I'm sure he won't be killed you guys are reading too much into the scene he's just being beaten up off screen possibly to unconsciousness. If he were to get killed they would have said something and cut off screen at the last second
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