It's what he said. Please, read.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Phil Spencer: MS will spend money on marketing and developing Rise of the Tomb Raider
- Thread starter CassidyIzABeast
- Start date
It's what he said. Please, read.
From the OP article:
that sounds pretty clear to me
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Maybe they are only helping develop the Xbox One version.
licktheenvelope
Member
What are you basing that on?
In fact Microsoft tried to pull this nonsense last year with "Below" (which I actually thought was an Xbox exclusive until I checked today) and it's not. Capy came right out and said it was a timed exclusive and after some time it would be elsewhere:
http://www.destructoid.com/capy-s-below-is-a-timed-exclusive-for-xbox-one-259649.phtml
Are we seriously once again going to go down this road for the 100th time?
Deceiving customers on power, exclusivity, ad buys, system features (importance of Kinect, Xbox TV) = mistreatment
There's a billion more I can pull up for you. Note a pattern: This is a company that things gamers are idiots and continually deceives them in an attempt to make their situation better. All companies are not out for our own good, but that doesn't mean we as consumers have to sit around and take it when they actively mistreat us or treat us like we're bloody fucking idiots.
Additionally, paying for exclusives to prevent other gamers from getting a well established franchise that has always come to other platforms is simply wrong, even though I'm glad they chose TR. It adds no value to XBO, only subtracts value from PC and PS gamers. No one should applaud such a thing.
Edit: I see you edited in more ->
The situation with Bloodborne and Bayonetta 2 is not even remotely similar. Additionally, we already have Kagari who confirmed SquareEnix needed zero dollars to release a massively budgeted TR sequel on multiple platforms; it was always going to be a reality. You may stay in your dreamworld if you like, of course.
It just adds to Sonys' crystal clear messaging/communications.
Crimson_Gold
Member
This.
Nothing has truly changed with MS. Different message, but the same tactics and endgame
Hyperbole at its finest.
They didn't tell for a single title that I know of how long it's gonna be exclusive. Microsoft was more transparent in that regard with "holiday 2015".
Uno Venova
Banned
Yeah I don't expect the pins to go anywhere, Phil is winning points in the console war, which is very important to people.
Hitokiri03
Member
IdreamofHIME
Member
Square Enix is pretty damn stupid if true.
licktheenvelope
Member
Except he said Microsoft is "paying for development" which is either not true or the game is exclusive.
no one gives a shit how long it is, they just want to know if it's actually timed or not. thats the issue that they aren't being up front about
Thats why I'm asking if people are just going crazy or if it is like DR. Meaning it'll never come, even to PC, if MS ponies up.
DOWN
Banned
Except Microsoft isn't doing it to a new IP or otherwise dead game. It's a game that was already known to be coming out either way for everyone. Their deal was to take away some of the planned platforms.
This is wrong. They claimed xbox only. That's a lot different than "CONSOLE DEBUT." Also the internet meltdown for the past week shows the exact opposite of your statement.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Interesting. More fuel for no PS4 version, then.
SmoothBrain
Member
I don't want a port of that game anymore. MS being involved in the development of the game can mean a lot of things, including to enforce Xbox One quality across all plattforms, if it will be released later on PC/PS. The deal sounds more and more like it will be xbox only as a console.
I really enjoyed TR2013, but this was a total mess by squareenix. Spitting fans into the face, who have supported the IP on PC and PlayStation over a decade. I seriously hope the game will bomb on xbox.
I really enjoyed TR2013, but this was a total mess by squareenix. Spitting fans into the face, who have supported the IP on PC and PlayStation over a decade. I seriously hope the game will bomb on xbox.
lol, they removed it because he doesn't want to get sued. This game is timed. You saying other wise is fud. Its titan fall all over again.
Yeah that was just sarcasm there but he was called a Scumbag at least 3 times in this thread. You know...over a videogame.
Secret_asian_man
Member
Well that's that
Basicly after 2015 all bets are off, ie. we will see this game on the other platforms. As expected.From the OP article:
So much FUD in this thread.
This is... pretty damn clear.From the OP article:
Damn, the backlash keeps looking sillier and sillier. All the comparisons about it being okay in the case of co-development thrown out the window.
Easily the dumbest post here. I don't even know where to begin. Do yourself a favor and go to business school before you ever think about starting or leading a business. Simply put, that's not the way business works. You try to steal your competitor's clients, you don't piss them off.
Vire
Member
Really the onus is on Crystal Dynamics and Square Enix to say if another version is planned. I don't really expect Phil Spencer to say "Yeah the PS4 edition is coming out in March, look forward to it guys!"
Unless, you know, Microsoft has a non-disclosure agreement with them that prevents them from talking about any other version until after Holiday 2015... *cough*
Unless, you know, Microsoft has a non-disclosure agreement with them that prevents them from talking about any other version until after Holiday 2015... *cough*
It sounds like the game is console exclusive if they are putting their own money into developing the game. Unless Microsoft will be letting a co-financed game onto other platforms, which seems unreasonable. It will eventually get a PC release, as the third-party exclusives for this gen seem to be doing, but otherwise, I doubt this will be on PS4 purely based on the wording.
Instead of asking Spencer, people should really hound SE and see exactly what they have to say. The game is getting a lot of attention based around this deal, which, to him, is more a good thing than a bad thing.
Instead of asking Spencer, people should really hound SE and see exactly what they have to say. The game is getting a lot of attention based around this deal, which, to him, is more a good thing than a bad thing.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Still not clear, though. Timed for console or PC?
kind of a crappy way to confirm it on square's part but I'll take it!
Boom there it is. Eat crow to all those who said it was not timed.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It is clearly not exclusive. At this point we want to know what platforms it is coming to after the deal is over.
Mr Moose
Member
Cornbread78
Member
Omnistalgic
Member
whoa...such a mess...
Pretty much guarantees my purchase of an Xbox one never happens.
Now I wonder if TR will get the TitanFall treatment and it's all you'll hear about for 3 months. I guess that's how you build a franchise up now, market the crap out of it.
Is it ok now to say that some of of that TF hype was manufactured? Or, am I a Sony conspiracy theorist? I think it was, and TR will now get the same treatment, and SE can't be happier there IP gets all this exposure at the costs of pissing off half the fans.
Don't even care about X1 at this point, just won't support TR no matter what now, not even a bargain bin price, I'll rent it from somewhere years after release, it's just not worth it.
Pretty much guarantees my purchase of an Xbox one never happens.
Now I wonder if TR will get the TitanFall treatment and it's all you'll hear about for 3 months. I guess that's how you build a franchise up now, market the crap out of it.
Is it ok now to say that some of of that TF hype was manufactured? Or, am I a Sony conspiracy theorist? I think it was, and TR will now get the same treatment, and SE can't be happier there IP gets all this exposure at the costs of pissing off half the fans.
Don't even care about X1 at this point, just won't support TR no matter what now, not even a bargain bin price, I'll rent it from somewhere years after release, it's just not worth it.
innervision961
Member
I still can't figure this deal out. If TR goes up against Uncharted for holiday bucks, TR isn't going to sell a lot of hardware. So who wins in this deal exactly? Not the consumers, not Microsoft and not even squenix really, when you consider the lost sales potential on the dominate system this hardware cycle. Why.
Hitokiri03
Member
:O
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
It's crazy how it continues to be ignored while people keep spewing how deceitful it all is. Unbelievable!
BUT IS IT COMING TO X1?!
things had finally settled for a bit until this damn kotaku article hit