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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.

You seriously would consider the possibility of someone not voting for Lucas, let alone everyone? Which means you didn't vote for Lucas? You disappoint me sir.
I vote for no one.

I want every single character CUT!

mobile here, thats why I didn't vote :p
 
I vote for no one.

I want every single character CUT!

mobile here, thats why I didn't vote :p

I submitted my vote on mobile, even though I'm on my laptop now (and the majority of the time).

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But....melee and 64 appealed to people too...

The audience in general for the Wii was WAY larger than for the N64 and Gamecube. Brawl surpassed Melee's lifetime sales within the first year, and I'd bet most of those sales were from people with gaming experience closer to "Wii Sports and the occasional Mario title." So it makes sense to aim somewhat "lower" than before when so many Wii owners fit that mold.

Of course, it's entirely possible that a game more like Melee would have been equally popular, so it's tough to say if that was the right call.
 
I hope that we're all left completely gobsmacked by the final roster's ultimate size. Imagine...

Mario/Luigi/Peach/Bowser/Rosalina & Luma
Donkey Kong/Diddy Kong/Dixie Kong
Wario/Mona
Yoshi
Pikachu/Jigglypuff/Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard/Mewtwo/Lucario/Greninja
Link/Princess Zelda/Sheik/Ganondorf/Toon Link/Impa
Kirby/Meta Knight/King Dedede
Samus Aran/Zero Suit Samus/Ridley
Villager
Marth/Ike/Robin/Lucina
Little Mac/Great Tiger
Chorus Kids
Pit/Palutena/Dark Pit
Ness/Lucas
Olimar
Fox McCloud/Falco Lombardi/Wolf O'Donnell
Shulk
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers/Mr. Game & Watch/R.O.B./Ayumi Tachibana
Snake/Sonic/Mega Man/Pac-Man

Perfect rosterrr
 
What worries me is that I can get behind Brawl on Wii being as accessible as possible because look at the people who had a Wii: "everyone" had a Wii.

But look at the people who have a Wii U. That wide Wii audience is gone, the people who have Wii Us are Nintendo's core fans who didn't need convincing to pick up the machine. If Sakurai is still playing to the Wii audience, that's not going to go over well a second time when there is such a small install base made up largely of only core fans.
 
These quotes from sakurai always make me worried... It's pretty clear I'm no longer the target of this series

I think what we should pull from Sakurai's statements is that while he isn't willing to concede the core of Smash's game design, he is willing to throw a bone to the hardcore audience occasionally as seen with "For Glory", multiple Final Destinations, and no tripping.
 
No K. Rool means it ain't perfect.

Didn't stop DKCR from being perfect.

Where's Ghirahim and Krystal? :(

By the way, just finished the fanfiction.

* Oric, leave Horizon X Mr.Saturn alone!
* Surprised Batty is considered a member of the antagonist group.
* Heath, go get that girl! <3

I chose Impa because she's also important to SS, but important to the franchise at large, and didn't include Krystal because I didn't want to give SF four reps. :V
 
I don't know where to stand on the whole "should be closer to melee" or not debate. Then again, I'm not a competitive player in this area and I was fine with Brawl and Melee.
In the end, if Sakurai is fine with it and I get to play as Lucina, Palutena, and Rosalina and I can still enjoy it, I'll also be fine with whatever direction Sakurai takes.
 
Tropical Freeze is the perfect one actually. DKCR was lacking a couple things (Davis Wise for example) but it didn't need the Kremlings.

Still would like to K. Rool though, or ya'know, any DK character besides Diddy and Donkey Kong.

Ultimately, I think that DK could sustain two newcomers - especially if the roster is as big as I made it there. Dixie could reasonably be a clone, and K. Rool could be a full newcomer.
 
Ultimately, I think that DK could sustain two newcomers - especially if the roster is as big as I made it there. Dixie could reasonably be a clone, and K. Rool could be a full newcomer.

I'd just be happy so long as Dixie would be there. She's earned it and I'm shocked so many people think she'd be just a Diddy Kong clone. I like K. Rool, but I'd be content if we even got Cranky or Funky.
 
Where's Ghirahim and Krystal? :(

By the way, just finished the fanfiction.

* Oric, leave Horizon X Mr.Saturn alone!
* Surprised Batty is considered a member of the antagonist group.
* Heath, go get that girl! <3

I'm an antagonist? I considered myself more in the neutral state. XP On man, what am I up to in the fanfiction. Lol.
 
Personally, I just want a Smash Bros game that has enough depth to keep me wanting to play better. Brawl was fun for a while, but with random ass tripping messing up movement of my character and Metaknight's overwhelming dominance in the competitive scheme of things really deterred me from playing it for competition and fun. I really stopped playing Brawl exclusively in 2012. Luckily, Project M got me back into it last year.

With tripping gone, some tweaking and reworking of characters thus far in the E3 demo and the slight speed bump overall promoting some more offensive play is really making me excited for this one. Also, the entire presentation of the game is so crisp and smooth that it is actually fun to watch, even if it's a defensive match (I know crazy huh? lol). I do hope they at least make the hitstun more consistent between characters and reduce some landing lag from aerial moves.

Still, I can't wait to play the 3DS version again this weekend. That announcement about the Nintendo Play Tour couldn't have come at a better time not too long before Japan release!
 
I'd just be happy so long as Dixie would be there. She's earned it and I'm shocked so many people think she'd be just a Diddy Kong clone. I like K. Rool, but I'd be content if we even got Cranky or Funky.

I don't believe that she is a Diddy clone, merely that she could be a Diddy clone. It certainly wouldn't be Ganondorf-bad.
 
These quotes from sakurai always make me worried... It's pretty clear I'm no longer the target of this series
Same here. I get that it's well intentioned; he just wants more people to have more fun. But it's always frustrating when the creator of the game points at you and says, "You, the things YOU enjoy are the things I want to avoid doing with my games in the future. Please keep buying them though!"
What worries me is that I can get behind Brawl on Wii being as accessible as possible because look at the people who had a Wii: "everyone" had a Wii.

But look at the people who have a Wii U. That wide Wii audience is gone, the people who have Wii Us are Nintendo's core fans who didn't need convincing to pick up the machine. If Sakurai is still playing to the Wii audience, that's not going to go over well a second time when there is such a small install base made up largely of only core fans.
Yeah, I found that weird about his comments too. It's like he makes a point of the audience on the Wii as if he's going to contrast, then says that he still wants to focus on easing new players in. That kinda thing has kinda always been his schtick though, Miyamoto talks about it a lot too these days. From Sakurai's Kirby games, to Air Ride, to how much easier EVERY Smash is compared to something like Street Fighter or KoF. At the end of the day it isn't a terrible philosophy in general. Smash already found the perfect sweetspot though, and the games have intentionally moved away from it.
So do I, it's all the same information, but I hadn't seen any of these quotes before. Or this article, somehow.
Yeah, definitely the round table. The article was posted recently for no reason. But it was posted here sometime yesterday. Oddly it was then taken down, and now apparently reposted.
 
I'm an antagonist? I considered myself more in the neutral state. XP On man, what am I up to in the fanfiction. Lol.

I know you will end up being a good guy/girl,
and that you will fall for someone too. <3

I enjoy each new Smash Bros. more than the previous one, so I'm not worried about this game.

I agree to this! This game is going to be way more packed than Brawl, and that's an immediate win in my book. :)
 
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