Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Their actions were in response to people in a BBQ restaurant/shot protestor, not the curfew.

Seven arrests were made, charge is for failure to disperse.

Smoke was used initially and then tear gas.
 
knowing it was indeed live fire and how close that whistling was on Tims stream he is damn lucky. That was almost a stream of his last moments
 
Looks like some people get their wish. Someone who was likely innocent was shot tonight.

More violence is not a good thing in any shape or form in case anyone needed to be reminded tonight. We should all be praying for urgent and lasting peace.
 
So what's the evidence against the cop for murder? I don't know anything about the case as of yet, trying to work it all out. This thread moves too fast.
 
BunnyBear said:
So what's the evidence against the cop for murder? I don't know anything about the case as of yet, trying to work it all out. This thread moves too fast.
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The strongest in my mind is probably multiple eyewitnesses saying he left his car and shot Mike Brown several times after he surrendered. Other people should know more about it though.
 
BunnyBear said:
So what's the evidence against the cop for murder? I don't know anything about the case as of yet, trying to work it all out. This thread moves too fast.
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Evidence so far is that; he was a great guy, loving husband of 4. Honor roll in grade 9/10. Loves playing hockey and has a clean record. Actually donated to several black charities within the last couple months. /s



Pretty sure there's eye witnesses saying that they saw him executing Mike Brown.
 
There are strong parallels to the riots in London a few years back in that after a few days - the initial shooting dead of a black man by the police was forgotten as people came to grips with the violence following it. There were powerful images on Thursday that highlighted the death of Mike Brown

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And then the store was looted? Now someone has been shot?

Public opinion quickly turned against the protestors last time because of events like this and the initial victim was forgotten.
 
How in the fuck did they think this curfew was a good idea? The governor has to be a complete dolt.

BTW, a nuclear bomb could go off in NYC and MSNBC would still be showing Lockdown.
 
Can I get a summary of events of what happened today? I had to take a break. The anger wasn't good for my health so I just watched Gaki no Tsukai and played ArcheAge all day.
 
I went to CNN last night and saw a video report showing empty streets with only news reporters and police

the news guy reported on the video no one was out on the street after the curfew time
so what happened last night? This morning on CNN's page it seems shit hit the fan again.

wtf is going on now?
 
Brolic Gaoler said:
For new page.

Anyone seen this recent account now thst supposedly mike tried to bum rush the officer and he didn't in fact turn around with his hands up? I figured it was bullshit, but this article comes with a video and an explanation. Again, not sure if it's been posted, I just got off work a little bit ago and saw it in my feed.


http://tavernkeepers.com/witness-michael-brown-bum-rushed-cop/
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Surprised this hasn't gotten more attention here. Saw it posted, but know one picked up on it...
 
Most protesters left after the curfew, some stayed. Police warned them to leave then fired smoke\teargas to disperse them. Someone threw a molotov at a building and started a fire. There was some gunfire, police said that a police car was shot at and a civilian got shot somehow. Civilian was in critical condition last we heard. There were something like 9 arrests made.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Why do you rush a policeman with a gun drawn towards you? I cant comprehend this image
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Unsure, but what makes it more compelling / credible is that it's seemingly an eyewitness account being told casually to a friend without a real awareness that it's being recorded. The audio is specifically around the 6:25 mark if I remember right.
 
Brolic Gaoler said:
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Anyone seen this recent account now thst supposedly mike tried to bum rush the officer and he didn't in fact turn around with his hands up? I figured it was bullshit, but this article comes with a video and an explanation. Again, not sure if it's been posted, I just got off work a little bit ago and saw it in my feed.


http://tavernkeepers.com/witness-michael-brown-bum-rushed-cop/
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If the autopsy supports this account then it will be much harder to prove murder, and it would bring serious questions to the testimony of the eye witnesses. They need to find and interview that witness from the video.
 
Isn't the official statement on why Darren confronted Brown was because of jay walking?

Actually, what are the rules of engagement for an unarmed person?
 
milquetoast said:
If that witness hasn't been found or come forward by now, he really, really doesn't want to. Maybe because he's not telling the truth there.
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What would be his motivation for not telling the truth there? It was a casual conversation, he told it without the knowledge of what other witnesses were saying (shot in the back), it contradicts everything the protests are based on "hands up, don't shoot". Why in the world would he be lying moments after seeing what he saw?

He does have plenty of motivation to not come forward now. His testimony could potentially ostracize him from his entire community, or worse.
 
I know someone married to a police officer, who happens to have a connection with the shooter - so they claim. They were told a very similar story, and related it to me last. It closely matches what's in that tavernkeepers.com post with a few differences. And remember this is completely unsubstantiated and could be 100% bullshit, but I honestly have no reason not to trust this person if they heard from the person they said they did.

The person said there were three males that rushed the police car. They forced and held the door closed and attacked him through the window. They struck him in the face. When the officer managed to pull his gun out it went off. No mention that Michael or anyone else tried to wrestle it away from him. They began to run and the cop exited, told Michael to freeze. Michael turned around with his hands up and kept taunting the cop while walking towards him, saying "what you gonna do shoot me?" and such. The officer told him to stop several times and when Michael got too close he began shooting. No mention of anyone charging him once he was outside of the vehicle.
 
speedline said:
What would be his motivation for not telling the truth there? It was a casual conversation, he told it without the knowledge of what other witnesses were saying (shot in the back), it contradicts everything the protests are based on "hands up, don't shoot". Why in the world would he be lying moments after seeing what he saw?

He does have plenty of motivation to not come forward now. His testimony could potentially ostracize him from his entire community, or worse.
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Who knows. Maybe a mythomaniac? I'm just trying to think of reasons why he wouldn't have talked to the police about it.
 
milquetoast said:
Who knows. Maybe a mythomaniac? I'm just trying to think of reasons why he wouldn't have talked to the police about it.
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Generally the reason is because he would have an account that would potentially give the policeman some form of justification. Coming out with that account would ostracize him from his own community.

I was talking to a black policeman for St Louis City and with our neighbors (we live in a predominantly black area of the city) and this was the response on both occasions: if you have an account of what happened that supports the *police's* case, you don't say anything.

This seems more likely than that the guy on the video is a mythomaniac.
 
Apt101 said:
I know someone married to a police officer, who happens to have a connection with the shooter - so they claim. They were told a very similar story, and related it to me last. It closely matches what's in that tavernkeepers.com post with a few differences. And remember this is completely unsubstantiated and could be 100% bullshit, but I honestly have no reason not to trust this person if they heard from the person they said they did.

The person said there were three males that rushed the police car. They forced and held the door closed and attacked him through the window. They struck him in the face. When the officer managed to pull his gun out it went off. No mention that Michael or anyone else tried to wrestle it away from him. They began to run and the cop exited, told Michael to freeze. Michael turned around with his hands up and kept taunting the cop while walking towards him, saying "what you gonna do shoot me?" and such. The officer told him to stop several times and when Michael got too close he began shooting. No mention of anyone charging him once he was outside of the vehicle.
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That's complete horse shit. 3 people have come forward saying this cop executed the boy. Why would they lie? They wouldn't, the Police executed an innocent man.No matter what the Police or media says, they did it I know for a fact they did and covered it up.
 
AlimNassor said:
That's complete horse shit. 3 people have come forward saying this cop executed the boy. Why would they lie? They wouldn't, the Police executed an innocent man.No matter what the Police or media says, they did it I know for a fact they did and covered it up.
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We also have a Twitter time-line that corroborates the eyewitness accounts.
 
AlimNassor said:
That's complete horse shit. 3 people have come forward saying this cop executed the boy. Why would they lie? They wouldn't, the Police executed an innocent man.No matter what the Police or media says, they did it I know for a fact they did and covered it up.
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You seem calm and rational.
 
Ferguson local PD been acting guilty. The original over armed response to the protesters, arresting the press, refusing to release the information on the shooting, releasing inflammatory information about Brown against recomendation of other law branches and without notifying the branch heading security. These have not been the actions of a party in the right.
 
whytemyke said:
You seem calm and rational.
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How can you be calm when people in here are insinuating that its a big black conspiracy between the multiple eyewitnesses to lie about the events that transpired? Fuck that bullshit. I dismiss it out of hand also. Ran up and attacked a cop lol people think he had a death wish?
 
AlimNassor said:
That's complete horse shit. 3 people have come forward saying this cop executed the boy. Why would they lie? They wouldn't, the Police executed an innocent man.No matter what the Police or media says, they did it I know for a fact they did and covered it up.
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As I wrote, it could well be completely wrong. But I have no reason not to believe that the person who told me this info trusts their source, for various reasons. I have doubts to its accuracy because of the official eye witness testimony, which you mentioned. I mentioned earlier in this thread that I don't believe those people are lying, but I'm also aware that sometimes eye witness testimony can be untrustworthy given their perspective. But it all corroborates, so there's that.

This narrative also falls more or less in between the events we've been given from both sides. It also still shows that the cop gunned down a clearly unarmed man.

Edit: I also want to add that the person who told me this, was told by a police officer familiar with the case, that it may come down to "a bad shooting", which is a phrase I'd bet money on coming up later
 
Funny thing is, depending on which group I start to empathize with or put myself in the shoes of, I can imagine the various claimed scenarios being true. The difficult part is in figuring out what is the truth.

As I hear each person's thought process in this thread, and their interpretations of what the most likely course of events was, it's striking to me that most of them seem reasonable or potentially true depending on who's side I'm seeking to understand...

Looking forward to the results of the investigation and the review of the evidence.
 
Apt101 said:
I know someone married to a police officer, who happens to have a connection with the shooter - so they claim. They were told a very similar story, and related it to me last. It closely matches what's in that tavernkeepers.com post with a few differences. And remember this is completely unsubstantiated and could be 100% bullshit, but I honestly have no reason not to trust this person if they heard from the person they said they did.

The person said there were three males that rushed the police car. They forced and held the door closed and attacked him through the window. They struck him in the face. When the officer managed to pull his gun out it went off. No mention that Michael or anyone else tried to wrestle it away from him. They began to run and the cop exited, told Michael to freeze. Michael turned around with his hands up and kept taunting the cop while walking towards him, saying "what you gonna do shoot me?" and such. The officer told him to stop several times and when Michael got too close he began shooting. No mention of anyone charging him once he was outside of the vehicle.
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What....this isn't HBO.
 
Is this the gist of what happened after curfew? I went to sleep right as the cops were starting to pull up to the remaining protestors. Is there a good summary somewhere?

Air Zombie Meat said:
Most protesters left after the curfew, some stayed. Police warned them to leave then fired smoke\teargas to disperse them. Someone threw a molotov at a building and started a fire. There was some gunfire, police said that a police car was shot at and a civilian got shot somehow. Civilian was in critical condition last we heard. There were something like 9 arrests made.
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