Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.

Just played Smash 3DS.

Pretty neat still. Still the same problems I had with the slider before, but I was playing on an OG 3DS and not an XL so that might have been the issue.

Glad you liked it.

I personally enjoyed it more on the OG 3DS due to the better screen and 3D, and the game is 100% visible and playable, definitely not small at all.

Also, I just discovered the Smash fanfic, whoever wrote this is amazing, lmao.
 
Eggman would be a great addition to Smash. He's probably one of the most recognizable villains in gaming, would have a unique moveset, and wouldn't get the "hurr durr sonic shitty friends"stigma thrown at him.

To be honest, I think Eggman would be the only other Sonic playable character that I would accept,- as much as I like some of the other characters.
 
Eggman would be a great addition to Smash. He's probably one of the most recognizable villains in gaming, would have a unique moveset, and wouldn't get the "hurr durr sonic shitty friends"stigma labelled at him.

To be honest, I think Eggman would be the only other Sonic playable character that I would accept,- as much as I like some of the other characters.
Eggman is awesome. If we have to have any third-party character from a franchise that's already represented, Eggman is my first choice. He has so many potential machines to draw from for a moveset, and he's got a hilarious personality.

Only if Dark Samus gets the heels instead, lol
It's not like they would hinder her much. :P
 
Not happening. At best, you'd get Dark Zero Suit Samus. Which maybe something like ZSS with heavy eyeliner or something.

You don't get to criticise Dark Samus' makeup until you've tried making eyeliner work when you have no skin and three eye sockets.
 
Don't really agree with that, but I've been playing on an XL so long that the OG screen is tiny in comparison.

Eh, you've probably just adjusted to it more then. I prefer the smaller screen, but mind you, I don't own an XL to gain enough time to view the OG as tiny, though that'd probably change if I owned an XL.

What I played of both systems, the game was very easy to keep track off, so I'm pretty content with it thus far.
 
It makes sense, because the space reserved for character icons have different dimensions. The 3DS ones are much skinner, and there will almost certainly be 5 or more rows.

Why I didn't think of that before I made the post here.

I think the thought is, with Miis, they adapt to whatever game they're in always. They're in Smash, so they're Smash Miis.

I would agreed with this sensation because they are not Mii. They are Mii Fighters.

I think there's a lot we can learn from this, honestly. Particularly when you take into account RYCE'S 3DS ROSTER as a likely final roster there, then try and re-arrange things to fit with the Wii U screen...

The biggest thing for me is that Greninja is in front of Pikachu on the Wii U screen. That says to me that Pikachu will be the first slot on Row #4 and Greninja will be the last slow on Row #3. Which is strange, because so many of the bottom characters are "one-offs" that could easily be rearranged. Why is Greninja separated from the rest of the pack?

Here's a rough mock-up of how the Wii U screen SHOULD look... wish I had the editing chops to actually make it look like the Wii U screen, though, ha.

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Everything lines up as it does in the demo screen. Four biggest Smash characters on the far left. The "sibling series of Metroid and Kid Icarus take up the top right, with their retro pals. Ganondorf remains a clone and remains next to Captain Falcon. Fire Emblem and Mother remain side-by-side. You could easily drop a Star Fox character to squeeze in Lucas, too. Game & Watch sticks with the 3rd Parties, and also with Wii Fit Trainer, his modern "named after hardware" pal.

The only area I'm iffy on is Captain Falcon through Ice Climbers and ROB. They seem distributed sort of haphazardly... and the bottom row in general still doesn't make sense to me. Why not move Olimar up some and bring Greninja down? Why is he before Pikachu!? I want answers Sakurai!!

You made a lot of good points, unless we are getting more characters than we expected or so. I can't wait to see final CSS when Japanese 3DS is out.
 
I already spent $40 on 6 nintendo jakks figures

Smash brothers is gonna destroy my wallet if I get all the figures D:

But I got 3 inch DK x Diddy , 6 inch Mario x Link x Yoshi and big Bowser
 
So can we talk about how Sakurai has obviously been checking character requests online way harder this time around? Just look at the assist trophy roster.

http://smashbros-miiverse.com/items/assist/new

Ashley, Waluigi, Skull Kid, Dark Samus, Dillon, Magnus, Midna, Takumaru and Prince Sable were all characters I remember seeing requests for. Mostly through places like 4chan or Smashboards. I only knew who Sable and Takumaru were because of Smashboards, so it blew my mind to find out they were both assists. It's good to know he's at least looking at some of the more popular (but silly) requests and putting them in the game in one shape or form.
It's why I'm confident Ridley and K. Rool will be in the game, probably as bosses
 
I don't think Sakurai is looking at online requests anymore than he usually might, all of those characters are characters I would expect to be in the game in some form by now.
 
I don't think Sakurai is looking at online requests anymore than he usually might, all of those characters are characters I would expect to be in the game in some form by now.

I honestly thought Prince Sable was just Smashboards reaching for some bizarre character request. Barely anyone knows who he is. I wouldn't have expected the rest if the internet weren't so vocal about them.
 
Eggman is awesome. If we have to have any third-party character from a franchise that's already represented, Eggman is my first choice. He has so many potential machines to draw from for a moveset, and he's got a hilarious personality.


It's not like they would hinder her much. :P

She'd have beaten Samus in Corruption if she had them

Not happening. At best, you'd get Dark Zero Suit Samus. Which maybe something like ZSS with heavy eyeliner or something.

None of the suit, all of the angst.... This could be a Hollywood production!
 
I honestly thought Prince Sable was just Smashboards reaching for some bizarre character request. Barely anyone knows who he is. I wouldn't have expected the rest if the internet weren't so vocal about them.

Sadly, I found out what Prince Sable is during Brawl Hype. There are small group that supported Prince Sable and believe that he have chance to be playable character due to the fact that Pokemon Trainer is playable. Three different move sets since he can changed into Snake and Frog.
 
I honestly thought Prince Sable was just Smashboards reaching for some bizarre character request. Barely anyone knows who he is. I wouldn't have expected the rest if the internet weren't so vocal about them.
In the West. Sakurai is aware of Japanese only games as the Melee trophies proved.
 
Sadly, I found out what Prince Sable is during Brawl Hype. There are small group that supported Prince Sable and believe that he have chance to be playable character due to the fact that Pokemon Trainer is playable. Three different move sets since he can changed into Snake and Frog.

I just found out about him because of Smash 4 hype. There's characters like Ashley and Dark Samus I could have seen being playable, but I like how Sakurai is treating assist trophies as a way to please people who wanted a certain character in.

In the West. Sakurai is aware of Japanese only games as the Melee trophies proved.

Oh yeah, no doubt. You guys remember the people that had Skull Kid on their rosters though? I always thought it was silly because of how minor of a character he is. At least he heard those people and included him in some way.
 
I honestly thought Prince Sable was just Smashboards reaching for some bizarre character request. Barely anyone knows who he is. I wouldn't have expected the rest if the internet weren't so vocal about them.

Sable is the only one I can understand, but you really wouldn't have expected Ashley, Waluigi, Skull Kid, Dark Samus, Dillon, Magnus, Midna and Takumaru?


The only thing I find somewhat unexpected is Dark Samus, but that's more because I didn't expect that series to be represented, not necessarily anything to do with the character itsself.
 
Sable is the only one I can understand, but you really wouldn't have expected Ashley, Waluigi, Skull Kid, Dark Samus, Dillon, Magnus, Midna and Takumaru?


The only thing I find somewhat unexpected is Dark Samus, but that's more because I didn't expect that series to be represented, not necessarily anything to do with the character itsself.

Only ones I would have expected playable are Ashley, Dillon and Dark Samus. Dark Samus gets my pick because it's already hard enough to think of another character for Metroid that isn't Ridley. I feel the rest are a bit too minor to show up as playable. I always had a sinking feeling Takumaru was a tad too obscure to show up, but I would have liked to seen him playable. All them had pretty frequent requests though, so I like how Sakurai is using assists as a way to please fans who couldn't get their character playable.
 
Eggman would be a great addition to Smash. He's probably one of the most recognizable villains in gaming, would have a unique moveset, and wouldn't get the "hurr durr sonic shitty friends"stigma thrown at him.

To be honest, I think Eggman would be the only other Sonic playable character that I would accept,- as much as I like some of the other characters.

GET A LOAD OF THIS

TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE

THE MORE THE MERRIER

TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE

HOW ABOUT THIS

TIME FOR A CHANGE OF PACE
 
Only ones I would have expected playable are Ashley, Dillon and Dark Samus. Dark Samus gets my pick because it's already hard enough to think of another character for Metroid that isn't Ridley. I feel the rest are a bit too minor to show up as playable. I always had a sinking feeling Takumaru was a tad too obscure to show up, but I would have liked to seen him playable. All them had pretty frequent requests though, so I like how Sakurai is using assists as a way to please fans who couldn't get their character playable.

I dunno, I don't see Sakurai seeing character requests and then adding them in as Assist Trophies to please fans because... that doesn't really please fans of the character.


Most of the characters shown are ones I've expected to be either playable, assist or background element so far.
 
I dunno, I don't see Sakurai seeing character requests and then adding them in as Assist Trophies to please fans because... that doesn't really please fans of the character.
From the Brawl Iwata Asks:
The most important thing was simply whether or not it would make players happy. I mean, there are lots of popular games with characters that just aren’t meant for fighting and were too hard to incorporate into the Smash Bros. title. Heading the list of these characters are the ones from the games we just mentioned, Nintendogs and Animal Crossing. Because these are games played by lots of people, I knew players would be happy to see them make an appearance. This is why I wanted to find a way to put them in the game and why they became Assist Trophies.
 
I dunno, I don't see Sakurai seeing character requests and then adding them in as Assist Trophies to please fans because... that doesn't really please fans of the character.


Most of the characters shown so far are ones I've expected to be either playable, assist or background element so far.

All I'm saying is I've noticed the assist trophy roster is filled with characters that had quite a few requests. I feel like Sakurai thinks assist trophies are supposed to please us, but obviously people get mad regardless.
 
I've never liked the idea of assist trophies anyway.

If they were more like hammer bros. and lakitu I'd be fine with it, but seeing actual characters be assists is always disappointing.

Assist trophies should basically be all the smash run enemies and outliers like color tv game, with the proper characters turned into marvel style assists.

Atleast then you actually have some form of player-agency over the characters you wanted in the game that weren't feasible to add rather than picking up an item and watching them attack without any input from the player.
 
I've never liked the idea of assist trophies anyway.

If they were more like hammer bros. and lakitu I'd be fine with it, but seeing actual characters be assists is always disappointing.

Assist trophies should basically be all the smash run enemies and outliers like color tv game, with the proper characters turned into marvel style assists.

Atleast then you actually have some form of player-agency over the characters you wanted in the game that weren't feasible to add rather than picking up an item and watching them attack without any input from the player.

I feel the opposite. Time restraints will always be a problem and I feel like assist trophies are a good way to say to the fans "Hey, we heard you". I wanted more enemies from Nintendo games as assists until Smash Run happened. Now I feel enemies should show up there instead.
 
I feel the opposite. Time restraints will always be a problem and I feel like assist trophies are a good way to say to the fans "Hey, we heard you". I wanted more enemies from Nintendo games as assists until Smash Run happened. Now I feel enemies should show up there instead.

I know that that's exactly what they're intended to be, but to me they're more of a "Hey look, it's your favourite character! Bet you'd like to play as them wouldn't you? Well you can't! Now watch as they appear and do their signature moves until you turn items off in a week"
 
I know that that's exactly what they're intended to be, but to me they're more of a "Hey look, it's your favourite character! Bet you'd like to play as them wouldn't you? Well you can't! Now watch as they appear and do their signature moves until you turn items off in a week"
Well then you're just an unreasonable whiner, sorry.
 
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