Angelus Errare
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Add that to the list
When it's dark blacks becomes even more aggressive. Doubly so if it's a full moon.
When it's dark blacks becomes even more aggressive. Doubly so if it's a full moon.
Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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ryutaro's mama
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Dude, no one feels sorry for you, Ron.
No one (except people with an agenda) is siding with the cops.
Zero-Crescent
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Vox said it best, his point about releasing the journalists later is quite irrelevant. The point of the arrest has already been made.
FamousLastX
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Valid point. Although one still needs to question what exactly they were doing to warrant being taken into custody in the first place.
They can't bring those in. The police wouldn't risk a stray Molotov hitting one of those and sending it down.
Detain is different than arrest. Especially in a post 9/11 US.
Edit: and no I'm not saying it's okay to do that to journalists.
ryutaro's mama
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And when unarmed, they are even more dangerous.
I just don't see the point of arresting press. It's like they want a shit storm to come down on their heads.
I think it is correct. If I understand it right though, I think some other bystander may have called it in.
I think it is correct. If I understand it right though, I think some other bystander may have called it in.
Nappuccino
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He said "arrest" though.
Unarmed is the best way to implement their claws.
Can't agree with the whole city part. You can be a couple miles away and never be the wiser that this is going on.
Ah okay. He still shouldn't be doing that to journalists.
Nappuccino
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Even if it's 100% true, stealing some cigs is not a reason to be shot at.
IcyBlueStrawberry
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They pulled it out of the flatbed of the truck earlier. It was live on camera.
In all fairness, though, there were police all over the truck and it was hard to see whether or not it was actually there the whole time.
That aside, the whole conference was BS. Johnson outright lied a lot, but I think those tears were genuine. Guy is worn out.
It's true, but a customer called the police on the robbery.
Black Republican
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its like Dead Rising!
I've seen more community members preventing looting, putting out fires and helping injured people than I have police. Admittedly the media has mostly be in the thick of the crowds but it seems like the community can deal with it's own internal strife.
Fuck those coming from out of area to cause shit though, these people have enough to deal with.
Also serious fuck you about trying to force the media to take sides or be seen as refusing to help with the healing.
This while thing gets grosser and grosser.
Fuck those coming from out of area to cause shit though, these people have enough to deal with.
Also serious fuck you about trying to force the media to take sides or be seen as refusing to help with the healing.
This while thing gets grosser and grosser.
ErasureAcer
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Being detained is worse than being arrested under G.W. Bush and Obama. You can be detained indefinitely thanks to the patriot act for no reason whatsoever. Arrested means they have to provide a reason and you're entitled to your right of a quick trial.
Chie Satonaka
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I can't. I just can't.
Let's gear up for another day tomorrow, friends!
Let's gear up for another day tomorrow, friends!
Yeah, I can't really work up too much outrage about the daylight thing to be honest. If there really are gunshots, and lootings, that has to be handled for the protests to continue at all.
They should have just said it's a curfew, because it clearly is.
He was completely full of shit though about the police's use of restraint, or not bullying and arresting journalists. He also didn't even acknowledge that the police were heavy instigators once again, as they have been throughout this whole thing.
His comments about the press especially were just shameful.
MorisUkunRasik
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Wilson wasn't aware of the incident if it was reported or not....and if somehow his spidey sense tingled and he just knew that he stole those Rillos...he still allegedly murdered someone.
ryutaro's mama
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Bam Bam Baklava
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Has it really come to this? There are pictures of people with Molotovs from past nights. Is it THAT inconceivable to believe?
What in the world is happening here. Why is it always this choose a side battle. The world is not that easy. All cops are not bad, all protestors are not bad. There are issues here that cannot be solved with easy answers. If the police go the soft route the agitators take over, if they go too hard the innocent protestors will have their rights trampled on.
Professor Beef
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Their blackness allows them to become veritable Predators in the darkness.
Nappuccino
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I'm not up on all the finer points of how you can qualify to be detained, but I'm just saying what he said in the video (unless I missed a moment where he said detained).
I've heard his sob story about watching looting twice now.
Why the fuck did he order his men to sit and watch a looting and not do anything? Stop the looters, not the fucking protest.
Seems like it was literally allowed to happen so they could do whatever they want in response.
Why the fuck did he order his men to sit and watch a looting and not do anything? Stop the looters, not the fucking protest.
Seems like it was literally allowed to happen so they could do whatever they want in response.
Angelus Errare
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OMG, a fanfiction written with help from Fiction!
There goes one (irrelevant) distraction. But Wilson wasn't even aware of an alleged robbery when he shot Brown, so this isn't surprising.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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This will never end, it's excitement that no one wants anymore but it's inevitable.
I live my life where I have friends of many races. I live my life where I respect and treat everyone as equal. The various types of racism can hurt anyone, of ANY race when it happens to them, so we need to evolve past that. You should feel that way because it's going to take everyone to view something together to fix it, and not that it hurts someone of a different skin color more than others either, bud. And maybe we can finally fully remove it from our society.
Yes, I have friends and co-workers who are a "minority" and talked about it.
How upset would you be if you saw a pic of a Black American officer doing the same thing to the same race of people, or are they converted? When I see a Black American officer taking a White American into custody, I usually think "I wonder what crime that guy did", not "it's racism".
Calling me sheltered, then basically saying ALL LEOs (ALL) treat other races unfairly insults me personally because I was never racist. But when I read "racism is institutionalized", I should have probably moved on.
Also if 1 Molotov has been thrown, that's enough to warrant escalated awareness and force. There's no magical number of Molotov's that need to be thrown to use "x" force. We know multiple were used, and that's all that matters. If they don't have an exact number, who cares. lol.
Anyways, I hope tomorrow settles down, for ALL sides.
EDIT: I don't really like using the word, as once again that word is used in a different way that it's true meaning, a lesser population/demo, so I throw it in quotations. It's a quirk of mine. Once again, I have friends and co-workers of different color throughout my life, and I look at them no better nor worse than myself.
That's in your opinion. I have been anything but sheltered, but that's none of your business to why I'm not. My POV, thoughts, opinions are worth no more, or less than your own bud.
thebigmanjosh
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This whole situation is fucked. Minorities on both sides are escalating the issue but unfortunately the cops have access to an arsenal which also puts a target on their back if they use any kind of force. People should be out there making their voices heard but not in the middle of the night when criminals are taking advantage of the situation.
It's not really in question that the police have lied about how many Molotovs have been thrown so far. We definitely know some were thrown, but live streams and eyewitness accounts don't match up with the degree that police are saying were thrown.
Listen for yourself. It starts around 21:22 in the video.
why is minority in quotation marks
Big Baybee
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"Minority"
MorisUkunRasik
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The cops were crying guys, the cops.
Can you imagine having to stand for that long blaring those sirens at those protestors, aiming your non-lethal weapons at them, shooting gas and smoke into their yards.
Think of the cops that are being forced to do these terrible things!
It's hurting them more than it's hurting the protesters!
Can you imagine having to stand for that long blaring those sirens at those protestors, aiming your non-lethal weapons at them, shooting gas and smoke into their yards.
Think of the cops that are being forced to do these terrible things!
It's hurting them more than it's hurting the protesters!
Well this is a bit of backtracking from posters saying there was only one molotov on the first night and none since then.
TheAbsolution
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That press conference was garbage.
Absolute trash.
So many lies and misdirects.
I'm done for the night. Hopefully tommorow will be better but I highly highly doubt it.
Absolute trash.
So many lies and misdirects.
I'm done for the night. Hopefully tommorow will be better but I highly highly doubt it.
ErasureAcer
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All PR so he could stand up here today and say what he did. It's all a game to the police. They don't give a shit about the businesses in a black town. They don't give a damn about justice. If I had 5 cents for every video I've seen where a cop in gear opens his mouth threatening bodily harm against people asking the most basic and proper questions....I'd have at least a dollar. The animals are the cops.
We don't actually exist, that's why demanding justice is silly. Like asking people to stop hunting unicorns.
Zero-Crescent
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Old. It's already been established that a customer reported the robbery. Still an irrelevant part of the story though, since Brown's connection wasn't known at the time.
MorisUkunRasik
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Oh man, I want a new tag.
Nappuccino
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NinjaTehFish
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That's how they cut you open. To lay the eggs.
Shit is beyond fucked 
And we joke but it may as well be true with the way cops are acting over there.
And we joke but it may as well be true with the way cops are acting over there.They may be doing a shitty time, but I can't imagine any of the officers are used to this kind of media scrutiny, attention, and conditions. I'm not going to mock this Johnson for trying to do his job. He may have really been starting to cry. These people are humans too. They may be a masked representation of all you hate, but there are people under those masks and that gear trying to work their jobs.
The cop that killed Michael Brown deserves to be punished in a real court. It's kind of shitty to treat these people trying to answer these questions like they are the scum of the Earth.
I hope these events cause changes that improve the quality of law enforcement and that these events promote and achieve passing legislations that fixes inequalities that exist in the system, but it's hard sitting here watching Johnson talking and pouring his emotions out to be called a liar who's faking tears.
Things have been really shitty, and there is a lot of poor treatment of the protestors, but I don't understand why the police would continue to do this shit for no reason. It only draws more scrutiny and criticism on the city and the state. I sincerely hope the protestors can let their word be heard without violence from the police or the troublemakers who are creating issues for the world to film and witness. I understand where Johnson is coming from.
There is also no excuse for what the police did to the peaceful protestors who were out there doing nothing wrong all these nights. It's a shitty solution to a minor problem that is merely a traffic issue when people are standing in the street. I don't want to sound like an apologist, but it seems like everyone is waiting for anarchy and bad shit to go down. I just want people to protest freely and peacefully without controversies over whether guns were fired by citizens or bottles were thrown by citizens during the after hours.
The cop that killed Michael Brown deserves to be punished in a real court. It's kind of shitty to treat these people trying to answer these questions like they are the scum of the Earth.
I hope these events cause changes that improve the quality of law enforcement and that these events promote and achieve passing legislations that fixes inequalities that exist in the system, but it's hard sitting here watching Johnson talking and pouring his emotions out to be called a liar who's faking tears.
Things have been really shitty, and there is a lot of poor treatment of the protestors, but I don't understand why the police would continue to do this shit for no reason. It only draws more scrutiny and criticism on the city and the state. I sincerely hope the protestors can let their word be heard without violence from the police or the troublemakers who are creating issues for the world to film and witness. I understand where Johnson is coming from.
There is also no excuse for what the police did to the peaceful protestors who were out there doing nothing wrong all these nights. It's a shitty solution to a minor problem that is merely a traffic issue when people are standing in the street. I don't want to sound like an apologist, but it seems like everyone is waiting for anarchy and bad shit to go down. I just want people to protest freely and peacefully without controversies over whether guns were fired by citizens or bottles were thrown by citizens during the after hours.
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