Lmao, back at it, huh?
Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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Lmao, back at it, huh?
SlackAdjuster
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Correcting uninformed people, yes. Problem?
Because last time you pulled this, it turned into a huge unnecessary debate.
Anti-Flag has already written, recorded, and released a song about it.
https://a-frecords.bandcamp.com/album/hands-up-dont-shoot
...Aaaand purchased.
https://a-frecords.bandcamp.com/album/hands-up-dont-shoot
...Aaaand purchased.
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"Pulled this" lol. Keep your hand in the sand, kid.
I wish someone would correct the uniformed people running around with guns and tear gas in Ferguson.
Thinking about it a bit more before turning in for the night, I'm all for peace prevailing. Peace should prevail. Peace ought to prevail. And you know what? Peace was prevailing in Ferguson until Mike Brown was shot. It wasn't the people of Ferguson who broke the peace and fired six times into one of their own. It isn't the people of Ferguson who continue to break the peace with grenade launchers and sonic cannons and rampant arrests, only to moan about rocks being thrown. It isn't the people of Ferguson who agitate themselves day after day after day in an effort to keep the peace broken.
So you know who should be told to lay down their arms and let peace prevail? Those whose arms are more than just bottles and rocks. Those who scream to be let through a crowd only to stop on the other side of it and aggravate it more. Those who continue to form a literal wall in defense of the man who did, in fact, break the peace by firing six bullets into an unarmed civilian.
And I put it to you that if anybody is to fault for the looting and the rabble rousing, it's not those everyday folk of Ferguson, who were upholding a peace detrimental to themselves, a peace which marginalized them. It isn't those people of Ferguson who were quite content to live under a system which has since proudly and brazenly displayed how little it thinks of them, if it meant continued peace.
It's the force that claims to be the law, and that claims to be the protectors and servants of these people, because if that force had at any time in the past week taken the decision to move toward peace, the tone of these protests would have never invited opportunists of any sort. If the law had once cared about peace, and about a peaceful solution, there would've been no environment to attract these people. The response of law enforcement in Ferguson is what created this atmosphere, because law enforcement, not rightly upset citizens, bears the responsibility of diffusing these situations in a peaceful manner--a peace not upheld at the point of a sword or barrel of a gun.
If the cops there had cared about peace, Mike Brown would still be alive.
So you know who should be told to lay down their arms and let peace prevail? Those whose arms are more than just bottles and rocks. Those who scream to be let through a crowd only to stop on the other side of it and aggravate it more. Those who continue to form a literal wall in defense of the man who did, in fact, break the peace by firing six bullets into an unarmed civilian.
And I put it to you that if anybody is to fault for the looting and the rabble rousing, it's not those everyday folk of Ferguson, who were upholding a peace detrimental to themselves, a peace which marginalized them. It isn't those people of Ferguson who were quite content to live under a system which has since proudly and brazenly displayed how little it thinks of them, if it meant continued peace.
It's the force that claims to be the law, and that claims to be the protectors and servants of these people, because if that force had at any time in the past week taken the decision to move toward peace, the tone of these protests would have never invited opportunists of any sort. If the law had once cared about peace, and about a peaceful solution, there would've been no environment to attract these people. The response of law enforcement in Ferguson is what created this atmosphere, because law enforcement, not rightly upset citizens, bears the responsibility of diffusing these situations in a peaceful manner--a peace not upheld at the point of a sword or barrel of a gun.
If the cops there had cared about peace, Mike Brown would still be alive.
Emphasis on unnecessary. Judging from your posts last time you talked about this and how everyone ignored it and you saying "last week is a pretty long time ago," I'm sure your comment wasn't merely to inform.
Are you going to give the link to educate people or are you just dragging this shit for another 2 pages?
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Judging from your posts last time and now - it's like you're mad that it even happened, for who knows what reasons. Not sure at all why anyone with an interest in this incident would want to ignore it.
SlackAdjuster
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First off, fuck your attitude.
Secondly, in the time you typed up this smart-assed response, you could've Googled it yourself.
What a dumb assumption to make. But whatever, bruh, do you.
What happened to nobody talking about it outside of local newspapers and one/two sites?
It seems like 2 German journalists were arrested last night, one from Die Welt and one from Bild.
The Bild reporter seems to be still in prison.
https://twitter.com/jreichelt/status/501658028316573696
That's literally the 10th post you made in the last 15min wasting everyone's time.
You're trolling and it's getting tiresome.
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That's the attitude you've displayed when it has been mentioned and only mentioned when in response to when someone says something like he did. Why? Whats the problem with talking about a very similar case that just happened a few days before this one? Especially when people say things like that...
"but i cannot remember a time when an unarmed white kid was shot excessively and murdered in broad daylight by a police officer"
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What attitude was he giving you and why are you so pissed off about the lack of attention the other story is getting?
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That fact still remains! Just move on dude. You obviously have some kind of weird issue with me.
The problem is I think it's gone beyond the point where it's just peaceful protesters from Ferguson. There are people coming from far and wide and some don't have the best of intentions, justified or not. Police laying down arms and standing back now was the best option on Day 1 but if they did that now I see a burning city and more people dead.
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If you dont see the attitude in his post, I'm not sure what to say. And I'm not pissed, I'm baffled as to why nobody seems to have even heard about this. Very similar incident. I only bring it up when people say stupid things like it doesnt happen to white people. Because it just did.
I have absolutely no idea what story is he speaking about, it's not making headlines worldwide like this one and I didn't see a thread here.
But I guess since he's pissed off it's ok to shit this thread.
Give a link to your story or something.
Nothing at all, but there's something wrong when the first time you brought it up was to prove to me that white people are subjected to the same amount of police brutality that black people are. You bring it up like you have a point to prove to people, not like you actually care about it. We get it, it does rarely happen.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=875837
I'm assuming SlackAdjuster's talking about the shooting of Dillon Taylor (which s/he really could have just posted):
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58304981-78/police-taylor-lake-salt.html.csp
(It doesn't mean though that there's widespread institutionalised racism against white people in the same way as there is against minorities like African Americans.)
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58304981-78/police-taylor-lake-salt.html.csp
(It doesn't mean though that there's widespread institutionalised racism against white people in the same way as there is against minorities like African Americans.)
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You can see the frustration in the protestors as they try to quell down angry reactions and push people back away from the police; there are a minority of people who are hijacking this important moment and badly undermining that pursuit of justice. The questions about the use of disproportionate force that we had at the start of this are being drowned out into irrelevancy as the violence on the other side goes up. It paints a picture whereby the police were justified with their initial reaction, even though it arguably escalated it to where we are now.
Would you have been less upset if he had said "It almost never happens to white people"? They're pretty much making the point that this happening to a white person is extremely rare compared to how often it happens to a black person.
If it bothers you so much, why not link to it instead of giving people shit about not knowing about it?
It is not getting the attention he thinks it deserves apparently.
Okay, whatever. Well, there's the topic on GAF about it. You should shit up that thread to raise awareness instead of this one.
Thank you both, it's like pulling teeth to SlackAdjuster to even get any info.
Aand it's not really relevant to this story at all (so why bring it up at all), it's like pointing out to white inmates in a discussion about racial profiling.
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What you're doing here tonight isn't shitting up a thread? I responded to someone with a correction about something they said and all you wanna do in here is argue with me and drag you're stupid argument on and on, then you call me out for shit I never said and then blame me for :shitting up a thread" Go away.
Yes and that's a real shame because the initial police reaction and subsequent release of the "robbery" is certainly what allowed it to escalate. The St Louis County and Ferguson police need to be investigated from top to bottom after this all dies down and heads need to roll.
I don't think people will forget that though.
The thing is- this is years and years of racial injustice, and a decade of decline in civil liberty across the board all coming out at once. Things are bound to get ugly, and in some way- things don't change until those in power become too uncomfortable not to change.
Those in charge of police need to feel uncomfortable.
If that topic is so important for you, you can discuss it here.
If you have a problem with another poster in this thread you can take it up to him via PM, we don't exactly need this derail.
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Yeah, an unarmed young man being shot in the same week where neither officer has faced zero repercussions isnt relevant to this story at all. You're an idiot.
I took it as him using that story as a way to dismiss what has been happening to black people for decades. I often see that same tactic used in other threads about race and racism on gaf.
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Then shut the fuck up about it already, I wasnt responding to you (either one of you) to begin with.
Yep, see the post above yours.
Take a break.
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Wow, really? I guess quite a few people have their head in the sand. Not trying to dismiss anything. Not trying to dismiss anything. A cop shooting an unarmed HUMAN is unacceptable in any event.
Yeah, that's Hedy Epstein, a holocaust survivor and a political activist for solidarity.
You should try and be polite for a change, insulting people only serve to antagonize people, if that's what you're looking for it's frowned upon here.
Again you were the one bringing this story up when it was so important for you that you actually never commented on it in the 1rst place.
By the same token you took it upon yourself to reply to a post I made that wasn't directed to you either, you're beginning to sound confused.
I'm on mobile, so I can't go back to the first time you brought this up in your reply to me, but my post said something about journalists being harmed so white people could know how it felt (which was admittedly hyperbolic of me) and you posted a link to this shooting and said "white people do know how it feels" and a whole bunch of other stupid shit that I'm sure other people told you was stupid. Then you brought up the same story when another poster said he couldn't recall the last time a white person was shot several times. Your issue stems from people forgetting about white people, I guess. It's just fucking unnecessary. But looks like you win again because here I am having the same stupid ass discussion with you.
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If that topic is so important for you, you can discuss it here.
If you have a problem with me you can take it up to me via PM, we don't exactly need this derail.
Polite? Maybe we got off on the wrong foot. And here's where we got off "or are you just dragging this shit for another 2 pages?"
Polite. I'm so sorry, all apologies.
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Am I understanding it correctly that the cops are ordering Amnesty International out?
I saw some people mention it and found this photo.
Great post, btw.
SlackAdjuster
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Yeah, you said something incredibly stupid and got called out on it. Now get over it.
Am I understanding it correctly that the cops are ordering Amnesty International out?
I saw some people mention it and found this photo.
And on live tv?
And to the ignore list the troll goes.
Lmao, okay, bruh bruh. Just for you.
Am I understanding it correctly that the cops are ordering Amnesty International out?
I saw some people mention it and found this photo.
Yep. They were forced out. And boy did they have something to say afterward https://twitter.com/amnesty/status/501600372847575040
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