Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Gee so picky

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Since I am the guy who posts all the leaks, I shall post another to pas the time. So here is another leak that MrMegaPheonix from gamefaqs translated:

It's from japanese though and i used google translate and it's pretty bad english. So i have reworded it to make (some) more sense. i assume my rewording keeps the original intent, but i cant be certain.

the info i found was:
- Veterans are everybody from brawl besides snake, ivysaur and squirtle

- Newcomers are the following:
- Bowser Jr. like bowser. paintbrush is a special and attacks. clown car is final smash
- Dixie. ike diddy. hair is used for gliding and attacks. guitar is final smash
- Toon Zelda. like toon link for zelda
- Mewtwo. only adds his final smash, sounds like Psystrike
- The final newcomer is just called "Nintendo" (?) and mentions Glove, Zapper & nunchuck. final smash i didnt understand either, but it said "3DS and WiiU".

- the single player mode in the WiiU version is described as "RPG". says you explore screens, fight enemies for orbs and coins. you can use the orbs to upgrade your stats and coins to unlock trophies. Says bosses are included, random areas and missions for bonuses. said nothing about story though.

- simple minigames are included in both versions. Balloon fight, mario, pac-man, donkey kong and pokemon were mentioned.

- the hats in 3DS version can be sent to WiiU version but can't be found in WiiU version

- Miis are not on character screen (? i assume this is the top part then) and it just says easy to select same custom.


That was it. No mention of ridley or k.rool, nothing about DLC or other custom moves and no items or assist trophies mentioned. I dunno, it seems too good to be true, but i still think these are just people trolling us. But since everybody seems to repost these anyway, i thought i better just in case it was legit.

I say its fake (all these leaks seem to be), but its so close to release and the weirdest thing sounds like that final newcomer (i have no idea what its meant to be?).
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Too bad its fake since its not my leak. /s

No but seriously, if Bowser Jr is in I do believe it would be in the Koopa Car with all the Koopalings. Its fun just to browse some of the crazy leaks tho.
 

Sponge

Banned
I still hope this isn't true. Please please don't be true. This is the 3rd leak saying the same thing. The others being from Smashboards from supposedly "reputable" individuals.

I wouldn't stress over it. I mean come on, Koopa car? This seems like something smash boards spread around like that Chunky assist rumor
 
When it comes to retro tracks, they should cherry-pick the music a bit more appropriately. Brawl has so much good music in it, but tonally a LOT of it doesn't fit a fighting game, let alone something as chaotic as Smash. I don't think anyone thinks Midna's Lament, or the Pikmin 2 vocal tracks, are awesome fighting music. Good tracks in themselves, but not so good for fighting. So maybe trim the soundtrack just to feature songs that get you pumped up to kick some ass.

Oh, and it wouldn't hurt if they didn't bother covering all the bases of a series. We don't need all the Sonic vocal tracks; feel free to give us plenty of Sonic 2 and 3.
 
Well, the Samus thing is kind of an akward position, isn't it?

Smash Bros has always been a Nintendo fan-service and nostalgia fest, hasn't it? To that end, Samus in a Bikini has always, amusingly enough, been an important part of Metroid.

In the original Metroid you played as Samus: some vague cycborg, alien, Robot, guy thing with an arm cannon.

Then, at the end of the game you got one of these:
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Wow! Samus is a girl! It was an unexpected twist! Also, the faster you played the less clothing she wore at the end of the game. Well...then.

Since then Samus's skimpy outfits have always been a strange sexy bonus for beating the game fast.


Well, Super Smash bros is supposed to reference Nintendo's history, and Samus in a two piece is a pretty memorable part of the Metroid series. So, is it Sakurai being Sexist or the original Metroid designers?


Those sprites...ugh! Those must be from the GBA version, which cropped out several rows of sprites in order to fit the screen.

This is what Samus really looked like in Metroid:

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A few missing pixels makes a world of difference.
 
How'd you guys feel about the game including unaltered retro tracks in addition to the actual soundtrack? I think it'd be a fun and non-expensive way to add to the music selection. There's a ton of tracks I can think of that don't really need any tweaking to match SSB's action. Imagine playing with the original Megaman 2's Wily Castle track as the background!

I was fine with Brawl adding unaltered tracks all together since most of those were a fine selection. Retro soundtracks are just as good as well. I personally want all of Mega Man 9's tracks in it. (Technically not retro, but still!)
 

Zalman

Member
When it comes to retro tracks, they should cherry-pick the music a bit more appropriately. Brawl has so much good music in it, but tonally a LOT of it doesn't fit a fighting game, let alone something as chaotic as Smash. I don't think anyone thinks Midna's Lament, or the Pikmin 2 vocal tracks, are awesome fighting music. Good tracks in themselves, but not so good for fighting. So maybe trim the soundtrack just to feature songs that get you pumped up to kick some ass.

Oh, and it wouldn't hurt if they didn't bother covering all the bases of a series. We don't need all the Sonic vocal tracks; feel free to give us plenty of Sonic 2 and 3.
This is one thing I really hope they nail. The soundtrack is half the fun for me.

Okay, maybe not half, but you know what I mean.
 
We don't need all the Sonic vocal tracks; feel free to give us plenty of Sonic 2 and 3.

There's never enough Sonic vocal tracks until I finally get You Can Do Anything. Still upset about it getting cut form Brawl for silly reasons like "lyric rights being in legal limbo"! Psh!

I'll even take Ocean View dammit just give me something
 
OK guys, can we talk about something actually important right now?

Top 3 composers you want to see do stuff for this soundtrack go.

David Wise: You've got two sides of Wise, the atmosphere heavy side could lend well to Metroid music and the more jaunty stuff to the rest of Nintendo's platformers outside of DKC. Aside from that it'd be great for Wise to take on remixes of some of his other known works like Starfox Adventures and Diddy Kong Racing, both of which have had no music at all in smash so far.

Michiru Yamane: Capable of some great gothic and jazzy themes as well as a lot of stylistic versatility, I'm not entirely sure of where to best slot her into Smash music but some Zelda mixes could go down a treat as well as some Kid Icarus Uprising. It's just a damn shame there's no Castlevania here.

Grant Kirkhope: The king of the jolly platforming themes, To rip off Coldman Kirby and Mario would be strong choices to remix for, Kirkhope also has some DK64 tracks of his own, DK64 itself helped cement Kirkhope's specific style of boss theme that I'd love to see adapted to other Nintendo boss themes.
Another damn shame incoming, there's no Banjo-Kazooie music here either.

Runner up for Kenji Yamamoto, after hearing elements of the Prime musical stylings within Retro's DKC games I need to hear other Nintendo franchises get the Yamamoto chorus synth treatment. Plus the dude hasn't done much since Prime 3, even DKCR was mostly people following his guidance if I recall.

I'm trying to narrow down some of Sonic Team's musical folks to throw in here but I'm really not sure which specific one to go with so I'm just going to go blanket statement and say get those guys in here as well beyond the Sonic remixes.

David Wise should compose at least half of the soundtrack

Also, the entire Tropical Freeze OST should be included

That doesn't count as part of David Wise's half, btw
No complaints here, just add DKC2 which also doesn't count for his half.

How'd you guys feel about the game including unaltered retro tracks in addition to the actual soundtrack? I think it'd be a fun and non-expensive way to add to the music selection. There's a ton of tracks I can think of that don't really need any tweaking to match SSB's action. Imagine playing with the original Megaman 2's Wily Castle track as the background!

A few tracks in Brawl were like this, such as the odd addition of an unchanged GBA quality Rainbow Route on the Halberd, damn I wish that theme got a remix
 
There's never enough Sonic vocal tracks until I finally get You Can Do Anything. Still upset about it getting cut form Brawl for silly reasons like "lyric rights being in legal limbo"! Psh!

I'll even take Ocean View dammit just give me something

We'll need the Sonic R soundtrack in its entirety, too.
 

Tripon

Member
There were a few more palette swaps shown like red Greninja.

"A very carefully curated selection of the various alternate outfits and palette swaps we have seen so far. It may include some, but not all of the potential costume selections included in the game." =P
 

Azure J

Member
When it comes to retro tracks, they should cherry-pick the music a bit more appropriately. Brawl has so much good music in it, but tonally a LOT of it doesn't fit a fighting game, let alone something as chaotic as Smash. I don't think anyone thinks Midna's Lament, or the Pikmin 2 vocal tracks, are awesome fighting music. Good tracks in themselves, but not so good for fighting. So maybe trim the soundtrack just to feature songs that get you pumped up to kick some ass.

Oh, and it wouldn't hurt if they didn't bother covering all the bases of a series. We don't need all the Sonic vocal tracks; feel free to give us plenty of Sonic 2 and 3.

Preach. Sakurai really got pressed into a corner when he introduced Sonic into the Smash continuum. It's impossible to do that series musical justice unless Smash 4 has like 60 music slots per stage. His picking of stage 1 themes, while good enough to get the point across, was also disappointing a bit because of just how good Sonic music gets.

How many times are we going to hear Green Hill Zone while the godlike Spring Yard Zone and playfully awesome Labyrinth Zone themes get snubbed? Also no boss themes?

I'm not a big fan of Sonic 2, but at the least it had Chemical Plant, Aquatic Ruin, Metropolis and Sky Chase Zone for music.

Sonic 3 though, oh Lord.

Angel Island was amazing (Senoue went IN on that remix), but no Hydrocity (especially Act 2), no Ice Cap, no Eggman Boss, no Big Arm, no motherfucking Flying Battery Zone (especially act 2) no Lava Reef no Sky Sanctuary, no Death Egg...

Same could be said for Sonic CD. Sonic Boom was mandatory and appreciated, but no Palmtree Panic Present, Stardust Speedway JPN, Quartz Quadrant Zone JPN (Past and Present especially), Tidal Tempest JPN (Good Future and Bad Future specifically), or the slow and awesome as fuck ending version of Sonic Boom? Also, You Can Do Anything and Cosmic Eternity for the hilarious 90s era JPN opening swag.

(This reminds me that Megaman better get Electronic Communication as one of his themes.)

We get Super Sonic Racing but no Living In The City or Work It Out (Make It Real). We get Open Your Heart but no Blue Azure Coast or Windy & Ripply. We get Live and Learn but no City Escape, White Jungle or For True Story.

We get Right There, Ride On, but no Back 2 Back, What U Need, Wrapped In Black, Metal Scratchin', Bomber Barabera, Get Edgy or Vela Nova?

yadda yadda yadda

TL;DR: More Sonic 3, Sonic CD JPN, Sonic Rush 1, a bit more Adventure/Adventure 2, ALL OF Colors (seriously if nothing else gets in I want a fuck load of Colors' music), and a bit of Lost World (Sea Bottom Segue, Honeycomb Highway and Windy Hill especially) please.
 
Since I am the guy who posts all the leaks, I shall post another to pas the time. So here is another leak that MrMegaPheonix from gamefaqs translated:



Too bad its fake since its not my leak. /s

No but seriously, if Bowser Jr is in I do believe it would be in the Koopa Car with all the Koopalings. Its fun just to browse some of the crazy leaks tho.

This is fake because gliding is out
 
Hey guys, I'm going to be at work for the next 6 hours, but I'm still going to try and post the newcomer choice in the next hour or so. Sorry if I'm not able to because of silly stuff like "not losing my job"!
 
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