To be fair, the koopalings were in MK8 and this character is apparently supposed to represent all of the koopalings, the only person you could put as the main face of that character really is Bowser Jr. even if he wasn't in MK8.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.
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To be fair, the koopalings were in MK8 and this character is apparently supposed to represent all of the koopalings, the only person you could put as the main face of that character really is Bowser Jr. even if he wasn't in MK8.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'd be ok with this.
The Great Gonzales
Member
Don't be to sure of that.
Beelzebufo
Banned
So do we have a new thread title?
Yeah, I'm considering it. I'm fine with waiting the extra month, but I have my OG 3DS collecting dust which I'd be willing to hack and have become my region-free handheld.
Then when the English version comes out it'll feel new all over again seeing it on the XL
I'd be okay with this.
Starphoenix
Member
My information is about the same as everyone else's. I never pursued asking for more information because, frankly, I'm very skeptical of the information. Neo Zero I trust, but I cannot say the same for his sources and the other leaks he compiled correlating to the information he received.
My general stance at this point is I really don't care about any "leak". The game is coming out in less than a month and within the first two weeks we'll probably know roughly around 95% of what is in the game.
Spinosaurus
Member
Honestly Doc is why I want this leak to be real, even if I don't believe it. He's my main in Melee, because he was basically everything I liked about Mario without what I don't like, mainly that Doc actually has killing power on top of the quick damage output.
Clones aren't a bad thing though. I'd prefer it if Falco returns to the same moveset he shared with Fox in Melee rather than pushing stupid decisions like the thrown reflector on him. Be that as it may, both iterations of Falco for example required a vastly differrent playstyle compared to both Fox versions to handle the characters. I consider myself to be a decent Falco Melee player but wasn't nearly as good with Fox. In Brawl it was the other way around.
I get why Ganondorf shouldn't have the exact same moveset as Captain Falcon because it looks hilariously unfitting. But some clones just make sense and don't need an entirely new moveset.
Movesets are by far not the only thing that define how a character handles. It's rather the different properties the attacks have. Fox' Down air is not down air as Falco's if one spikes and the other drills for consecutive damage. Same goes for the shine, one send enemies vertically, the other horizontally which makes for quite different follow up opportunities. Also move speed, jump height, fall speed, length of recovery...
I never got why clones have an especially bad reputation with Smash while I would claim the SF community more often embraces the differences between Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Evil Ryu and so on. They share almost the same movesets but they're only the same on the surface.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
To be honest, I would love to use Duck Hunt Dog (despite the fact that its fake) as my phone background. YOU HEAR ME, RELEASE THAT MODEL PLS!
Project M 3DS coming soon.
The more I think about the DLC the more it makes sense, honestly. One of the big complaints about the 3DS launch being before the Wii U launch was that the roster would be completely revealed and there would be less excitement going into the launch of the Wii U version.
How do you fix that? 3DS version comes out... and boom, Smash Bros Wii U direct announced. 5 minute trailer showing gameplay of all the new characters from the 3DS version that we haven't seen in action on the Wii U, plus Lucas, Wolf, Iceys and Chorus Men are announced. Holy shit excitement. Trailer ends.
OR NOT
Codec conversation. SNAKE REVEALED. RELEASE DATE.
SHOUTAIMU DA
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Bowser Jr.'s not happening because he wasn't in Mario Kart 8 (and by the way, neither was Diddy), but K. Rool is obvious choice?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 13: Leak Dynasty (or Duck Dynasty) because hell people here are nutty and leak is just insane, along with Duck Hunt Dog.
I'm not serious I guess
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
We Golden Sun Fans are shunned in the Smash world. And after Dark Dawn we have little hope for improvement.
Red Arremer
Member
Waluigi IS playable in Mario Kart 8 and look what that got him.
Mario Kart's roster is not indicative of Smash's, or a characters' relevance to the Mario series either.
What's more important is their appearance in the series overall, and Bowser Jr. has been in New Super Mario Bros. U and New Super Luigi U (main series), as well as Mario Tennis Open, Mario Golf World Tour, Mario Party Island Tour and the last Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, all of which came out in the past 2 years.
Are you going to include this leak in the op, even though it's very possibly fake?
This is what I would hope, as well. Obviously, Smash is meant to be the big holiday title for the Wii U too, and it would need some type of "hook" to get people to buy in if they already got the 3DS game, while still keeping to the promise that there would be parity between the two versions.
InvincibleAgent
Member
Oh, they're a joke alright. But the hype is real.
This would be pretty clever. People complaining about the full "leaked" roster because of things like Dr. Mario or Pit being clones are delusional if they thing the full roster is going to be any better. With this leak you have the promise of almost all veterans being back, Snake being back, Shulk, Chrous Kids, 2 more original newcomers we hadn't heard about (DHD and Bowser Jr.)... and this is what some people would call a "bad leak"? If anything, this is a dream roster. If this is fake, I can't fathom the levels of disappointment there will be because of the actual thing.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
I never said K. Rool was an obvious choice. Like most people, I thought a DK newcomer would be likely given the fact that DKCR was so successful, and K. Rool has more moveset potential than Dixie. Instead of adding more villains, they take one out and replace him with a palette swap of Pit. Sakurai can't be this biased... can he?
The Bankslammer
Member
so I'm reading up on ESRB stuff for kicks and
the image of a paid employee watching a video montage of Peach upskirts, Wario farting, and someone entering their name as "ASS" sounds amazing
now I really want to see an ESRB video
the image of a paid employee watching a video montage of Peach upskirts, Wario farting, and someone entering their name as "ASS" sounds amazing
now I really want to see an ESRB video
Distresssss
Member
How could it possibly be a dream roster without Isaac?
I'm still leaning on the leak being fake because of Yoshi.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, but Dark Pit didn't replace anyone, he's most likely a glorified alternate costume like Lucina.
And he's as much a villain as Wolf lol.
I'm willing to bet there would be a lot more people disappointed by Snake not returning than by Isaac not being in. Or even Shulk. Isaac's yesterday's news =/
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
balladofwindfishes
Member
The Roster + DLC is literally the best case scenario a (reasonable) Smash fan could have ever asked for in a roster. Brawl would have only lost 2 characters, and Melee would have retroactively not lost one character. Three additional new comers, one of which is actually 9 characters in one via costumes. That's amazing!
I don't know what someone who is disappointed was expecting. This roster is near perfect, my only wish would be for Mewtwo, but Doc returning is decent enough.
I don't know what someone who is disappointed was expecting. This roster is near perfect, my only wish would be for Mewtwo, but Doc returning is decent enough.
The Great Gonzales
Member
Diddy also not being in MK8 doesn't really undermine Gonzo's point since Diddy's a returning vet, not a newcomer like Bowser Jr. would be.
That said, I don't think the MK8 roster has anything to do with the Brawl roster. They're completely different games developed by completely different people. Sakurai's not going to say, "oh, this character got cut from MK - guess I can't put him in Smash, then!"
Lol, I was thinking of it that way the last time it got brought up. Hard to imagine going to work everyday and taking myself seriously, lol.
But I wouldn't want to do it. You have tamer games like this, but then some games are rougher. I'm not usually super squeamish, but I wouldn't want to have to see, day after day, highlight reels of the most brutal gore games can offer up.
I was talking more about including the pictures or a link in the actual post.
That title's actually kinda clever though.
Fair enough.
friskykillface
Banned
I'd rather have Magnus the god then dark pit/pitoo
Hell, where the hell is Hades 0_o
Issac is still a starlordWHO.gif for many people
Hell, where the hell is Hades 0_o
Issac is still a starlordWHO.gif for many people
Like Heath said, release date is in 3 weeks. We'll probably get a Nintendo Direct a week or so before release if past Nintendo Directs focused on games is a consideration.
We're 2 weeks away from knowing the full roster guys.
superNESjoe
Member
Assuming this roster is real, I'm a little disappointed by Dark Pit. Him being a clone means he didn't take a spot on the roster away from another character, but it's still time and resources that could've been spent on a better clone.
Zelda didn't get a newcomer in Brawl, it should've at least gotten a new clone in Smash 4. Surprised they would include 2 Kid Icarus newcomers and not Impa or something.
Zelda didn't get a newcomer in Brawl, it should've at least gotten a new clone in Smash 4. Surprised they would include 2 Kid Icarus newcomers and not Impa or something.
PadWarrior
Member
Still looking fake
Beelzebufo
Banned
Because the Mii fighter select screen was also leaked, and customization is off.
Nope! It could go either way. Some people were just reminded that this matches the "leak" from a few weeks ago.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Hope you like assist trophies.
The12thGripper
Member
TeamReal are bunch of fools willing to defend anything, that's why.
The leak is fake, I don't know why so many people believe it.
EDIT: If customization being off is your reason, then why is Palutena on the CSS?
theprodigy
Member
no, just the same old stuff
Jury's still out.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Customizations were turned off.
The thing though, is with Customizations on and all 5 DLC characters, where do Miis fit into the CSS?