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[Psycho_Mantis]

There is no way this season is going to actually appease the shippers at all, is there?

Its actually really simple. Tai x Sora is all they need to do, every other "couple" actually makes sense. I remember there being a pairings poll on Toei's website...here it is :

#1: Hikari and Takeru (196 votes)
#2: Taichi and Sora (194 votes)
#3: Koushirou and Mimi (128 votes)
#4: Taichi and Yamato (105 votes)
#5: Daisuke and Hikari (67 votes)
#6: Jou and Gomamon (47 votes)
#7: Yamato and Gabumon (45 votes)
#8: Yamato and Takeru (41 votes)
#9: Yamato and Mimi (37 votes)
#10: Angemon and Angewomon (31 votes)
Runner-up: Koushirou and Tentomon (26 votes)

Whoever made that Christmas episode must have been so high.

Digidicted.

lol

 

[I-hate-u]

Koushiro and Mimi? Thats like the worst relationship of all time. These two don't jive together at all.

 

[Pluto]

#4: Taichi and Yamato (105 votes)

The OTP, keep Sora away from both of them.

 

[Boss Doggie]

People forgot about the digimon rumble all stars game huh

 

[Stuart444]

Its actually really simple. Tai x Sora is all they need to do, every other "couple" actually makes sense. I remember there being a pairings poll on Toei's website...here it is :

#1: Hikari and Takeru (196 votes)

YES

Also lol @ Some of the Digimon ones though the Angemon/Angewomon ones don't surprise me.

 

[Pegosaurus]

 

[zeromcd73]

#4: Taichi and Yamato (105 votes)
#6: Jou and Gomamon (47 votes)
#7: Yamato and Gabumon (45 votes)
#8: Yamato and Takeru (41 votes)
Runner-up: Koushirou and Tentomon (26 votes)

 

[daydream]

Gosh, so many names I need to look up all the time. Need to get on with my rewatch.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

That poll doesn't necessarily state romantic pairings hence the digimon but another which was essentially (chosen child x chosen child)

#1: Hikari and Takeru (196 votes)
#2: Taichi and Sora (184 votes)
#3: Koushirou and Mimi (128 votes)
#4: Taichi and Yamato (105 votes)
#5: Daisuke and Hikari (67 votes)
Runner-up: Yamato and Takeru (41 votes)

See what I mean. Fix the season 2 shit Toei.

 

[ZenTzen]

Its actually really simple. Tai x Sora is all they need to do, every other "couple" actually makes sense. I remember there being a pairings poll on Toei's website...here it is :

#1: Hikari and Takeru (196 votes)
#2: Taichi and Sora (194 votes)
#3: Koushirou and Mimi (128 votes)
#4: Taichi and Yamato (105 votes)
#5: Daisuke and Hikari (67 votes)
#6: Jou and Gomamon (47 votes)
#7: Yamato and Gabumon (45 votes)
#8: Yamato and Takeru (41 votes)
#9: Yamato and Mimi (37 votes)
#10: Angemon and Angewomon (31 votes)
Runner-up: Koushirou and Tentomon (26 votes)

Whoever made that Christmas episode must have been so high.



lol

so not even yamato sora got into the top 10?

yep, they need to fix that in this new project

 

[TreIII]

so not even yamato sora got into the top 10?

yep, they need to fix that in this new project

I dunno. At this point, I'd almost expect them to "respect" the original work enough so that Yamato and Sora stay together, while Taichi hooks up with a new (and better) woman. They can feel free to retcon the rest of the crap from the last portion of 02, though.

As a V-Tamer fan, I would definitely welcome a Digimon Adventure take on Rei Saiba. After re-watching Adventure and 02 myself recently? I've come to the opinion that Sora and Yamato were jerks that deserved each other. :lol

By no means am I saying that he doesn't have his flaws, or that he's the best protagonist, or even the best character. All I'm saying is that he doesn't deserve a lot of the crap he gets just because he isn't as great of a character as Tai, Takato, etc. I actually think he's better in regards of being a friend. He was 100x more supportive of Ken than I think any other character in the series has been to anyone else IMO, but I haven't seen the shows in a while so I may be excluding things about other characters.

Even as one of Daisuke's critics, I'd agree with this much.

But to me, the main thing was that they never really gave him a chance to fully flesh out his character. If there were more instances like where

Spoiler

Kaizer Ken was forcing him to make a choice among who would live among his friends

, and

Spoiler

where practically everybody was calling him out because he didn't want to fight BrainwashedAndCrazy!MetalGreymon

, he might have become that much more a compelling character. We might have found out exactly why

Spoiler

his dream was to run a Ramen stand

, instead out of the blue and completely random towards the end of the series.

Even his wacky hijinks to try and woo Hikari died off soon enough, because the writers were apparently fine with him being delegated to V-mon and Ken's main supporting cast. Which definitely was to the detriment of his character.

 

[RadioHeadAche]

Its actually really simple. Tai x Sora is all they need to do, every other "couple" actually makes sense. I remember there being a pairings poll on Toei's website...here it is :

#1: Hikari and Takeru (196 votes)
#2: Taichi and Sora (194 votes)
#3: Koushirou and Mimi (128 votes)
#4: Taichi and Yamato (105 votes)
#5: Daisuke and Hikari (67 votes)
#6: Jou and Gomamon (47 votes)
#7: Yamato and Gabumon (45 votes)
#8: Yamato and Takeru (41 votes)
#9: Yamato and Mimi (37 votes)
#10: Angemon and Angewomon (31 votes)
Runner-up: Koushirou and Tentomon (26 votes)

Whoever made that Christmas episode must have been so high.



lol

bueno

 

[I-hate-u]

After re-watching Adventure and 02 myself recently? I've come to the opinion that Sora and Yamato were jerks that deserved each other. :lol
.

Finally someone agrees with me. Sora was cool in the beginning, but she was changed by the end of the Dark Masters arc.

 

[Cloud Strife]

YEEEEEEESSSSS

 

[God Dayumm]

I always liked a Tai/Hikari pairing, they had good chemistry. Also Myotismon/Sora since that episode where Garudamon appears.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I see a lot of people hating Sora. I really liked her in 01 but really haven't watched 02 apart from a certain episode.

Was she really annoying in 02?

Tai and Kari have a great relationship as siblings. The best in the series if you ask me.

 

[I-hate-u]

I see a lot of people hating Sora. I really liked her in 01 but really haven't watched 02 apart from a certain episode.

Was she really annoying in 02?

Tai and Kari have a great relationship as siblings. The best in the series if you ask me.

She was non-existent pretty much in 02. Only Taichi and Koushirou were actively present from the original cast.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

I always liked a Tai/Hikari pairing, they had good chemistry. Also Myotismon/Sora since that episode where Garudamon appears.

Yo, Sukamon/Izzy is where it's at.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Wargreymon x Metalgarurumon is canonically the OTP.

 

[Stuart444]

Tai and Kari have a great relationship as siblings. The best in the series if you ask me.

I agree with this. I thought TK/Matt were good siblings when we got to see them together but Tai/Kari were the best siblings.

 

[MAtgS]

So is there a particular reason why the entire Royal Knights line-up never been known before now? I never got the point of that secrecy.

Eh. I don't care much for a manga character that has no appearance in the series.

As it stands I think it's more probable the new season will just introduce a new girl altogether for Tai to be with. Given the choice between totally new character or obscure reference to the franchise's history, well it's is the 15th anniversary is it not? This new season should be all about continuity nods left & right.

02's "everyone gets digimon" was the biggest load of bull I've ever seen and is my first biggest wish for a retcon.

I regret not saying more about the epilogue before, that was pretty stupid too. Also Matt being the first astronaut on Mars, HUH?! & if we presume most of the digi-destined married outside of the group, then why did they bring their kids & not their spouses? Why bother having all of the 2nd season mons split their forms into separate bodies if doesn't do shit in actually beating the bad guy? HOW THE HELL DOES DAVIS HAVE NO DREAMS FOR MYOATISMON TO TRAP HIM IN?! I'm pretty sure I could name one fantasy of his. Actually two, didn't he mention his noodle cart dream job in the same episode? It could've been that instead. Great moral for the kiddies BTW, don't bother having aspirations, they'll just trap you. -_-

FUCK. THAT. FINALE.

As I said, they won't but I'm never going to be interested in Matt/Sora because they were too forced and horribly developed.

At the time I actually liked the general concept of subverting the typical male lead/female lead hookup expectation. Execution of course left a lot to be desired & well, trope subversion purely for subversion's sake shouldn't be the sole reason to go against your audience's wishes.

Still, I remember Matt & Sora having a heart to heart late season 1, I can't recall off the top of my head similar moments with Tai & Sora back then. I should really get back to rewatching it on Netflix, I probably just don't remember too well the Tai/Sora moments. Well ok, the Etemon arc rescue obviously, but I think they made that out to be more about Tai's personal character growth & leader-protecting-his-followers than anything.

Now I wouldn't mind TK/Kairi but I think the only romance pushed was Davis liking her and him just being jealous of TK's friendship with her. I wouldn't mind either couple happening but that terrible 02 ending needs to be gone for either to happen.

To be fair, I don't think Adult!TK outright stated they weren't married but one would imagine that he would've mentioned if they were. However, since the ending narration was basically the last chapter of his auto-biography, we could go with the theory he didn't mention it in that chapter because it was brought up in earlier chapters. That leaves the door still open.

I always liked a Tai/Hikari pairing

.....no, not touching that one.

 

[Pegosaurus]

Even as one of Daisuke's critics, I'd agree with this much.

But to me, the main thing was that they never really gave him a chance to fully flesh out his character. If there were more instances like where

Spoiler

Kaizer Ken was forcing him to make a choice among who would live among his friends

, and

Spoiler

where practically everybody was calling him out because he didn't want to fight BrainwashedAndCrazy!MetalGreymon

, he might have become that much more a compelling character. We might have found out exactly why

Spoiler

his dream was to run a Ramen stand

, instead out of the blue and completely random towards the end of the series.

Even his wacky hijinks to try and woo Hikari died off soon enough, because the writers were apparently fine with him being delegated to V-mon and Ken's main supporting cast. Which definitely was to the detriment of his character.

I agree with your points as well, but as I said earlier he isn't a bad character, he just isn't as fleshed out or developed as many of the others. I just think a lot of people are harsh on him just because they like Taichi or Takato more. I actually like Davis regardless of his lack of development, just because he's different from Tai and the others. It's more "fun" I guess to watch him. But I definitely understand why he isn't everyone's favorite.

 

[Hot Coldman]

So is there a particular reason why the entire Royal Knights line-up never been known before now? I never got the point of that secrecy,

Pretty sure they were waiting for them to be designed.

 

[Pegosaurus]

Wargreymon x Metalgarurumon is canonically the OTP.

What about Veemon and Wormmon?

OR TAKATO AND GUILMON?

 

[Ultratech]

I regret not saying more about the epilogue before, that was pretty stupid too. Also Matt being the first astronaut on Mars, HUH?! & if we presume most of the digi-destined married outside of the group, then why did they bring their kids & not their spouses? Why bother having all of the 2nd season mons split their forms into separate bodies if doesn't do shit in actually beating the bad guy? HOW THE HELL DOES DAVIS HAVE NO DREAMS FOR MYOATISMON TO TRAP HIM IN?! I'm pretty sure I could name one fantasy of his. Actually two, didn't he mention his noodle cart dream job in the same episode? It could've been that instead. Great moral for the kiddies BTW, don't bother having aspirations, they'll just trap you. -_-

FUCK. THAT. FINALE.

Had more to do with their greatest wishes and desires.

Davis's greatest desire at that moment was to beat the ever-loving shit out of MaloMyotismon, so...it kinda worked?

 

[SkyOdin]

So is there a particular reason why the entire Royal Knights line-up never been known before now? I never got the point of that secrecy.

Pretty sure they were waiting for them to be designed.

They probably created the number long before they designed most of the membership. 12 knights was the number of the members of the Knights of the Round Table (at least in some versions) as well as the number of the Peers of Charlemagne, so it is strongly associated with orders of knights. So when they created the concept of the Royal Knights to hype up Omegamon and so forth, they threw out the number just to flesh out the lore a little. They might not have intended to design the whole set originally. I think Imperialdramon Paladin-mode was once listed as a member, so the actual list has been somewhat up in the air.

 

[Pegosaurus]

They probably created the number long before they designed most of the membership. 12 knights was the number of the members of the Knights of the Round Table (at least in some versions) as well as the number of the Peers of Charlemagne, so it is strongly associated with orders of knights. So when they created the concept of the Royal Knights to hype up Omegamon and so forth, they threw out the number just to flesh out the lore a little. They might not have intended to design the whole set originally. I think Imperialdramon Paladin-mode was once listed as a member, so the actual list has been somewhat up in the air.

Imperialdramon Paladin-Mode is the founder I think

 

[I-hate-u]

They probably created the number long before they designed most of the membership. 12 knights was the number of the members of the Knights of the Round Table (at least in some versions) as well as the number of the Peers of Charlemagne, so it is strongly associated with orders of knights. So when they created the concept of the Royal Knights to hype up Omegamon and so forth, they threw out the number just to flesh out the lore a little. They might not have intended to design the whole set originally. I think Imperialdramon Paladin-mode was once listed as a member, so the actual list has been somewhat up in the air.

He is the founder of the RKs.

Regarding the Taichi/Sora thing, upon rewatching the show again, I think Taichi views Sora as a really important friend. Personality wise, Yamato and Sora are more compatible. In the sub, Yamato and Sora views are often aligned, and more often the not, Yamato was the one that was able to help Sora during her emotional conundrums. Taichi is more of a dependable/protective friend to Sora than a love interest.

Also again, Sora isn't good enough for Taichi.

 

[Wazzy]

I-hate-you: I love Tai and he's my favourite but I'll be honest in that I don't believe in this idea that someone isn't good enough for another person unless they're doing something that actually harms the other person. I don't see what Sora would have to do to be considered worthy of dating him. If the chemistry is there then I think they're good enough and while Sora had her problems I see no reason for why her and Tai would be a bad idea.

As it stands I think it's more probable the new season will just introduce a new girl altogether for Tai to be with. Given the choice between totally new character or obscure reference to the franchise's history, well it's is the 15th anniversary is it not? This new season should be all about continuity nods left & right.

Yeah I know they will. I'll just probably end up super disappointed again.

And since the finale is so bad god I want nods but nothing regarding that!

To be fair, I don't think Adult!TK outright stated they weren't married but one would imagine that he would've mentioned if they were. However, since the ending narration was basically the last chapter of his auto-biography, we could go with the theory he didn't mention it in that chapter because it was brought up in earlier chapters. That leaves the door still open.
.

IIRC the creator had no intention for them romantically either but you never know!

 

[Pegosaurus]

I just watched the episode where Koushiro and Mimi fight Kentaurmon and i actually do think they'd be cute together lol

 

[ss-hikaru]

I finished watching Adventure like a year ago with my lil bro (he was too young to have watched it when it aired on Aussie TV back in my day LOL so it was pretty fun seeing his reactions ). I've got the R4 DVDs of 02, but haven't got around to watching that, better get onto that ASAP. I have a highschool friend who wants to watch this new series together with me, but hell if I can remember what happened in 02. I'm pretty sure I missed a couple of episodes during my original viewing cos we forgot to record it haha!

As a kid I liked Matt a lot but boy was he annoying during the rewatch. Tai, Izzy and TK are best. Probably should watch Our War Game, I really like Summer Wars/Hosoda and the gifs in this thread look good.

The series I wanna watch though is Tamers, I saw the beginning episodes but then they moved the show to Saturdays and I stopped watching. I liked how it seemed a bit darker and Terriermon is so kawaweeeee. But it looks like Madman hasn't picked up the licence for it so dunno what to do :|

 

[Ultimadrago]

 

[neemmss]

This makes me so happy to hear. I love digimon!

 

[stryke]

I've never been more confused by Digimon until now.

 

[Akainu]

After watching it subbed I hate the dub of Our War Game now. I really love the silence in scenes and no constant talking. Hell the final blow to Diaboromon was so much better. Yeah I see the timer I don't need you counting. Yeah I saw Diaboromon get stabbed in the face I think my brain can piece together that they won. And the part with Onmimon was so good too. Bolero was great too.

 

[Stuart444]

IIRC the creator had no intention for them romantically either but you never know!

You wouldn't know it with how close they seem to be and how if ones around, the other is usually not far behind. (and that isn't taking into account dub-only lines) Even their crests are usually mentioned together.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Huh, I just got it.

Shoutmon doesn't evolve into a royal knight. But that's maybe intentional, because he becomes THE DIGIMON KING!

 

[Pegosaurus]

After watching it subbed I hate the dub of Our War Game now. I really love the silence in scenes and no constant talking. Hell the final blow to Diaboromon was so much better. Yeah I see the timer I don't need you counting. Yeah I saw Diaboromon get stabbed in the face I think my brain can piece together that they won. And the part with Onmimon was so good too. Bolero was great too.

is it really that much better? I need to watch it after I finish adventure again

just watched the episode where Greymon evolves to SkullGreymon, man Tai was way too hard on Agumon.

also, thinking about it, is Angemon the strongest digimon from the original crew? Angemon was the only Digimon who could do shit to Devimon, and he's seemingly the only one who can draw more power from the crew's digivices as well.

 

[Ithil]

is it really that much better? I need to watch it after I finish adventure again

just watched the episode where Greymon evolves to SkullGreymon, man Tai was way too hard on Agumon.

also, thinking about it, is Angemon the strongest digimon from the original crew? Angemon was the only Digimon who could do shit to Devimon, and he's seemingly the only one who can draw more power from the crew's digivices as well.

Absolutely, yes. Patamon's evolutions are OP as fuck.

 

[TreIII]

Absolutely, yes. Patamon's evolutions are OP as fuck.

Which, to me, made the notion that

Spoiler

BlackWargreymon was able to shrug off the same attack that HolyAngemon/MagnaAngemon used to one shot Piemon the previous season all the more hilarious. And then BWG kicked him in the junk, too!

One of the few highlight of 02, for me!

But anyway, yes. Digimon on the path to evolve into any version of the "Celestial Trio" are definitely in a class of their own.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Wait so who is the strongest digimon out of the original digi kids.....I've always thought it was a match up between Tai's and Matt's

 

[KuroPyonyo]

As someone who has only watched the shows, what do I have to read/play to see these crazy evolution lines in action and explained?

 

[Stuart444]

Wait so who is the strongest digimon out of the original digi kids.....I've always thought it was a match up between Tai's and Matt's

Tai + Matt's together. Omnimon

As someone who has only watched the shows, what do I have to read/play to see these crazy evolution lines in action and explained?

Well there is Digimon Adventure PSP. Iirc, get their Kizuna rank to max for each child and each Digimon near the end/before the final boss can Digivolve to their Mega forms.

 

[Subtle]

These digivolution lines seem to be based off the card game.

 

[TreIII]

Wait so who is the strongest digimon out of the original digi kids.....I've always thought it was a match up between Tai's and Matt's

I honestly don't think there's a real "clear cut" answer to something like this.

In most cases, you'll pretty much want to have Agumon and/or Gabumon's evos clean up a mess because raw power usually is good enough.

...But then you get opposition like

Spoiler

Devimon, Vamdemon/Myotismon or Piemon

, where raw power clearly isn't enough. Then you need at least Patamon

Spoiler

and/or Tailmon/Gatomon

's evo's and the special breed of hax that's usually involved with them, in order to be able to even have a chance of finishing those Big Bads.

Unlike some later seasons, I think Adventure at least tried to make it a bit more even, instead of having just the main two (or one) be the clear option in almost every case.

 

[KuroPyonyo]

Well there is Digimon Adventure PSP. Iirc, get their Kizuna rank to max for each child and each Digimon near the end/before the final boss can Digivolve to their Mega forms.

But thats only their "standard" mega forms?
I thought maybe there was an rpg or something where they give you a patamon and you can choose whatever route you wanna go?

These digivolution lines seem to be based off the card game.

So no story where the protags show off different lines?


Aww, I think such a game/manga would be super cool.

 

[Verelios]

Huh, I just got it.

Shoutmon doesn't evolve into a royal knight. But that's maybe intentional, because he becomes THE DIGIMON KING!

You get outta here with that.

We all know Wargreymon is King.

 

[God Dayumm]

The king is literally imperialdramon.

 

[Stuart444]

But thats only their "standard" mega forms?
I thought maybe there was an rpg or something where they give you a patamon and you can choose whatever route you wanna go?

Well I think some games might have something like that (haven't played the DS games in forever and I've not gotten started with ReDigitize though I keep meaning to). Digimon World 1 lets you digivolve into different evo lines and that was from before the show. Ie Agumon into Meramon.

Also technically TK and Karis Mega forms are different in the game than in the Movie. Don't know why but yup.

 

[I-hate-u]

Agumon -> Wargreymon (Dramon killer, evolves into a Royal Knight with Metalgarurumon)
Gabumon -> Metalgarurumon (evolves into a Royal Knight with Wargreymon)
Piyomon -> Hououmon (Strongest bird digimon)
Tentomon -> HerakleKabuterimon (seems like a generic Ultimate. Nothing too OP)
Palmon -> Rosemon (meh)
Gomamon -> Vikemon (nothing major to note)
Patamon -> Seraphimon (Celestial and strongest Angel-mon, however, he gets destroyed in almost every appearance he makes)
Tailmon -> Ophanimon (Celestial)

Almost all major villains in Adventure were dark virus digimon, so obviously the Angel mons would have an advantage over them compared to the rest. But as shown in 02, HolyAngemon couldn't beat Blackwargreymon, so depending on the opposition, each starter Digimon can have an advantage over the other.

Overall though, I think Wargreymon is the strongest. Ignoring the fact that he evolves into one of the strongest RKs, he has so much utility against other strong digimon. Also, he was able to fight Diaboromon on an equal level.