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YOUR CHOICE FOR 16TH GREATEST SMASH BROS. CHARACTER WILL BE REVEALED SHORTLY!

I can't explain why, but I'm uploading this early because I feel like we're getting something big tonight and I don't want to overlap. Remember, I'm only updating the list on POTD days, so this will be the last reveal for this week.

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[The Bankslammer]

We could have Deathborn. Deathborn is awesome.

only if he yells "DARK SCHNEIDER" for his final smash

 

[Sponge]

I think he gives series about the right amount of love. You may disagree, but I hardly think he gives only a few franchises love.

I'd say DK doesn't get enough love but the music for the DK stages in Brawl were fantastic.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Character rank way earlier than when I go to bed? Excellent.

 

[MrSaturn99]

f-zero will never be have another playable character

 

[A Link to the Past]

I don't get why you would keep it to PotD days. Wouldn't it be better to use the top 20 to fill the weekend gap?

 

[MagiusNecros]

f-zero will never be have another playable character

Technically Ganondorf counts.

You can argue Fox McCloud if you call him James.

 

[Spinluck]

Updated. #TeamReal gets more new members than #TeamFake this time.

#TeamReal:

1. Aaronrules380
2. A Link to the Snitch
3. Azuran
4. Bamboo Boy
5. Beelzebufo
6. Big One
7. BitStyle
8. Brazil
9. Burning Justice
10. Camjo-Z
11. CassSept
12. Chunky
13. CHusson91
14. Civilstrife
15. Dagobert Duck
16. DICKS AHOY (added)
17. Diddy Kong
18. Dimitri LH
19. Diprosalic
20. DNAbro
21. Dreamcast
22. Drencrom (added)
23. ec0ec0
24. Echoenigma
25. flipping_heck (added)
26. Foffy
27. Forkball
28. Galang
29. Game Guru
30. GAMERG0D
31. GamerJM
32. georgetheplushie
33. georly
34. GiantBreadbug
35. Glass Rebel (added)
36. Gleethor
37. Greenzxy
38. Growlie19
39. Hatchtag
40. HenryGale
41. Hypemaster
42. IceDoesntHelp
43. jackal27
44. Jedi Link
45. Joelnky
46. jph139
47. Karsticles
48. Kissenkopf
49. Kouichi
50. Lunchbillion
51. Makai
52. Masked Man
53. MaverickHunterAsh
54. MiguelMexMIstery
55. Mistle
56. Mr. Smiley
57. Muzy72
58. Mysterious
59. Neiteio
60. Okrag
61. OricWindstar
62. PaperFlame
63. PaulExcellent
64. PikaED
65. PreyingShark
66. -PXG-
67. Rayis
68. Regiruler
69. Rrongfield
70. Sacul64GC
71. Scooter155
72. Smiles and Cries
73. Starphoenix
74. Stoze
75. SuperAngelo64
76. SuperBowser
77. superNESjoe
78. theJwac
79. TheWorthyEdge
80. toa95
81. TWILT
82. Watch Da Birdie
83. WiIRevolution1
84. Zorfendor

#TeamFake:

1. Akibastman
2. Ampersands
3. Anth0ny
4. Art
5. Benzychenz
6. BGBW
7. Boba2007
8. BroBuzz
9. BY2K
10. Byronic Hero
11. callmeJackz
12. catmario
13. Ceravic
14. Cloudboy
15. CrazedProfessional
16. CronoShot
17. daripad
18. DJIzana
19. emb
20. Error404SwagNotFound
21. exfatal
22. FCsolomon
23. Feltrol
24. Flame_AC
25. foxuzamaki
26. FSLink
27. Gallantioh
28. Gartooth
29. Golnei
30. Gonzo The Great
31. GregLombardi
32. Griss
33. GuessMyUserName
34. Hoagmaster
35. Icelandic_Jazz
36. InsuRn
37. InvincibleAgent
38. J-Tier
39. Jaeger
40. Jintor
41. Juansho
42. K-A-Deman
43. Kaban
44. kirby_fox
45. Kjellson
46. Kouriozan
47. Kriken
48. Letterbomb
49. Luqi
50. Macka
51. Major Gripex
52. Majukun
53. Mariolee
54. MichMasteR
55. MisterWisp
56. Moonlight
57. Mr. Macintosh!!
58. Mr.Miyamoto
59. mrhej
60. MrSaturn99
61. munchie64
62. Murrah
63. Neoxon
64. nerdbot
65. NexusCell
66. Nintendojutsu
67. Nocturnowl
68. Not
69. NotLiquid
70. Ozium
71. PadWarrior
72. Pics_nao
73. Pikma
74. Pizza
75. PK Gaming
76. Polioliolio
77. Popnbake
78. Pop-O-Matic
79. Porsche9146
80. Prevolition
81. random25
82. RobotHaus
83. Ryce
84. Saro
85. SatoAilDarko
86. SenorArdilla
87. SkullHydra
88. SmithCo
89. SoldnerKei
90. SparksterMeta0
91. SpinDasher
92. Sponge
93. Star Falcon
94. Storm Kyleis
95. SuperChoco
96. SuperSah
97. Superturkeys
98. Swordy (added)
99. Tan
100. Tazz
101. Teriaaaaa!
102. The12thGripper
103. thefreecheese
104. The Great Gonzales
105. The_Intruder
106. theprodigy
107. Thorakai
108. Tomohawk
109. TomShoe
110. tonyh24613
111. Tripon
112. Troubled Bat
113. ubiblu
114. uncleniccius
115. Valjean Lafitte
116. Vampirolol
117. Veloth
118. voltronbadA
119. Vuapol
120. wheapon
121. Whiskeymatt
122. Xspike
123. Zalman
124. Zeyphersan (added)
125. Zomba13
126. Zubz

#TeamFake too stronk.

 

[georly]

f-zero will never be have another playable character

It will if sakurai makes the next one, I guarantee it.

#TeamFake too stronk.

Team fake fears that the leak is real

Spoiler

I kid, I don't care one way or another

 

[PadWarrior]

I honestly don't miss any of the Kongs that aren't already in Tropical Freeze.

Spoiler

Except Lanky Kong. He's the only Kong MIA that I seriously miss.

I forgot all about him. Would make for some interesting dynamics in a Tropical Freeze sequel.

 

[A Link to the Past]

IIRC, the last Team update showed greater #TeamReal growth.

#TeamReal represent

 

[Ryce]

I have to disagree with you there. Stages are not nearly as important as characters, and now Metroid and F-Zero still only have one character and we're on the fourth Smash.

Metroid has two characters, and considering F-Zero is a vehicular racing game that hasn't had a new entry in a decade, Captain Falcon represents the series just fine by himself. There's no immediate need for an F-Zero newcomer, nor are any of the other characters really popular enough to warrant being included. Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Yoshi, and Punch-Out!! are fine with just one character, and so is F-Zero.

The only series that really needs another character is Donkey Kong.

 

[Golnei]

It will if sakurai makes the next one, I guarantee it.

Such a shame that he's busy on Mach Rider.

 

[Berordn]

I don't get why you would keep it to PotD days. Wouldn't it be better to use the top 20 to fill the weekend gap?

The number 1 slot would be revealed the same day as the 3DS version releases in Japan.

also, shamelessly reposting for new page:

Alright after looking it up a bit, some things I noticed. Mostly taken from the 3DS trailer in the E3 direct (and a couple daily pics):

1. The background doesn't seem to change between the menus accessed from the main menu (but does seem to be repositioned when banners are added to the top of the screen):

But it does for some submenus elsewhere:

2. The menu is not uniform with UI elements. Buttons are inconsistent in design and layout a clean swap even in continued selections tree, from what we can see. It's actually kind of weird that this customizations menu looks identical to a submenu of online play. The bottom banner from the Nintendo Network menu has only officially been shown there so far, no other menu screens seem to have it (but we have very few that are shown on the top screen):

3. If real, this would be the only menu so far to actually share a design with another, but so far they all serve radically different functions of the game and uniformity probably wouldn't be expected anyway.

4. None of this is intended to prove or disprove anything, in any case.

Kinda curious what people think about that, if at all.

 

[A Link to the Past]

So can anyone help to clarify the gap between Melee's leak and Melee's release? I recall that it wasn't right before Melee's release, though I may be wrong.

 

[Kinsei]

Metroid has two characters, and considering F-Zero is a vehicular racing game that hasn't had a new entry in a decade, Captain Falcon represents the series just fine by himself. There's no immediate need for an F-Zero newcomer, nor are any of the other characters really popular enough to warrant being included. Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Yoshi, and Punch-Out!! are fine with just one character, and so is F-Zero.

The only series that really needs another character is Donkey Kong.

One character two movesets.

I think there's a need for one. Ganondorf should be allowed out of clone hell.

 

[Toxi]

I have to disagree with you there. Stages are not nearly as important as characters, and now Metroid and F-Zero still only have one character and we're on the fourth Smash.

I'd say stages are pretty important. One of the reasons I've been screaming for a new Metroid 3DS stage.

 

[emb]

Metroid has two characters, and considering F-Zero is a vehicular racing game that hasn't had a new entry in a decade, Captain Falcon represents the series just fine by himself. There's no immediate need for an F-Zero newcomer, nor are any of the other characters really popular enough to warrant being included. Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Yoshi, and Punch-Out!! are fine with just one character, and so is F-Zero.

The only series that really needs another character is Donkey Kong.

Agreed. Except I think Metroid could use another character. Dark Samus is a perfect fit, and unlike Dark Pit can actually be viably different. Ridley could be made to work too, though the developers obviously disagree.

 

[BassForever]

There is zero reason for Ganondorf to still be a clone at this point, its utterly embarrassing if Sakurai took the lazy way out with him again, it'd be even more embarrassing then adding duck hunt dog

 

[NEO0MJ]

One character two movesets.

I think there's a need for one. Ganondorf should be allowed out of clone hell.

Yeah. I can understand them making him a clone with Melee's rushed development but no excuse for it with Brawl. The fact that they taunted us with the sword was so annoying.

 

[-Horizon-]

Can't wait to see who the next ranked Veteran is

 

[OricWindstar]

I don't get why you would keep it to PotD days. Wouldn't it be better to use the top 20 to fill the weekend gap?

Three reasons:

1)Not as many people are here on weekends and I doubt they would tune in just for this.
2)I want it to end on the eve of the 3DS launch for maximum hypage.
3)More days means I have to make more graphics and I'm lazy.

 

[zroid]

Candy Kong pics. Have we finally reached the lowest level of hell?

 

[A Link to the Past]

There is zero reason for Ganondorf to still be a clone at this point, its utterly embarrassing if Sakurai took the lazy way out with him again, it'd be even more embarrassing then adding duck hunt dog

Why would it be more embarrassing to add Duck Hunt Dog?

 

[Pyrokai]

It will if sakurai makes the next one, I guarantee it.

Anyone else feel like this will be the last time he does this? They seriously need to clone him so that we'll one one always working on Smash and one always working on an original project. And why not a third for Uprising 2 ?

 

[Caladrius]

Were it not for the radically different moveset Zamus would be Evil Cole-tier to me.

We could have Deathborn. Deathborn is awesome.

Yes. We need more ham.

Candy Kong pics. Have we finally reached the lowest level of hell?

We haven't posted beach wear Wario so that's a plus.

 

[Kinsei]

Why would it be more embarrassing to add Duck Hunt Dog?

Seriously. If the leak turns out to be real DHD is an amazing addition.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

No.

There are literally dozens of characters they could add. F-Zero GX was released in between Melee and Brawl, and yet the only thing he added was Sakurai Goroh as an Assist Trophy. Unless Sakurai works on a reboot of the franchise, F-Zero will always be treated like hot garbage. Absolutely tragic.

F-Zero is a racing franchise. Captain Falcon alone (with his speed and his Final Smash) represents his series as well as an F-Zero character possibly could. Another character would be pushing it. You're right in that there are dozens of characters you "could" add, but none of them are ideal. Hell, Samurai Goroh as an assist trophy doesn't have anything to do with what his game is about. He's a racer who's attack is a bunch of sword swipes.

IMO, Captain Falcon is enough.

 

[MagiusNecros]

There is zero reason for Ganondorf to still be a clone at this point, its utterly embarrassing if Sakurai took the lazy way out with him again, it'd be even more embarrassing then adding duck hunt dog

Yeah if Ganondorf basically remains the same and doesn't feel like you hold the Triforce of Power then it looks like I will be playing as Bowser all day every day.

 

[Village]

Good lord, that's even worse than Candy Kong.

?

Its a anthropomorphic aligator with a fro.

I know its hip and cool to over react to character designs that are no different than cartoons, because aminals and shit, but jeez. DK had made worse.

 

[Spinluck]

Why is the name just Duck Hunt and not Duck Hunt Dog?

 

[Spinosaurus]

Away with the swords!

I like my Ganondorf punching as if he's hitting you like a truck, thank you. The only change I'm favorable of is if they go the wrestler route with him.

Do it, Sakurai.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I think Ganondorf would be cool if he was a weapon user, and his custom moves differed on whether he used

A. A big sword
B. Two thin blades
C. A trident

 

[Ryce]

One character two movesets.

Samus and Zero Suit Samus are canonically the same person, but they are two separate characters in the context of Smash Bros. Sakurai even said he added ZSS to Brawl because he wanted to include more Metroid characters. If you wanted to make a numbered character list you wouldn't leave out Zero Suit Samus -- just as much work went into her as any other character.

 

[superNESjoe]

and then PAON botched it again.

I have gazed into the jaws of hell.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I'd say DK doesn't get enough love but the music for the DK stages in Brawl were fantastic.

Really? I thought it was pretty bad all things considered as well as rather small.
Three versions of DK Island Swing across the soundtrack.
The rather unsuitable world map music from DKC1 just dropped in as it was with the bonus room blitz theme just tacked on the end.
Music from the opening race track of Barrel Blast for some reason, there's actually a lot better within that game as well.
25M original version, why.

The only pros I can think of are Stickerbrush Symphony, Gangplank Galleon and the snippet of the DK series theme in one of the 75M medleys, a slight nod towards Battle for Storm Hill being one of the few notable tracks from Jungle Beat.

When I think of all the great music that could be used I conclude that they dropped the ball hard here.

 

[brinstar]

I don't get this notion that simply because the characters exist they should be in Smash. Like yeah, there's a bazillion F-Zero characters, but they're all really unappealing and weird, and they barely even matter in their own game.

Captain Falcon does a fine job of representing the series on his own.

 

[Kinsei]

Samus and Zero Suit Samus are canonically the same person, but they are two separate characters in the context of Smash Bros. Sakurai even said he added ZSS to Brawl because he wanted to include more Metroid characters. If you wanted to make a numbered character list you wouldn't leave out Zero Suit Samus -- just as much work went into her as any other character.

I know that in the context of Smash they're two characters, but I'll never think of them that way. Just like I don't personally think of Zelda and Sheik as separate characters even thought they technically are.

 

[MaverickHunterAsh]

YOUR CHOICE FOR 16TH GREATEST SMASH BROS. CHARACTER WILL BE REVEALED SHORTLY!

To be honest, I'm going to miss these just as much as the PotDs over the weekend. I wish we could have done the top 28 or however many not skipping the weekends would have required!

 

[Golnei]

Away with the swords!

I like my Ganondorf punching as if he's hitting you like a truck, thank you. The only change I'm favorable of is if they go the wrestler route with him.

Do it, Sakurai.

Ganondorf has no need to punch.

 

[OricWindstar]

To be honest, I'm going to miss these just as much as the PotDs over the weekend. I wish we could have done the top 28 or however many not skipping the weekends would have required!

I don't think I would've had enough time, honestly. I started the poll too close to launch. At least there's Smash5!

 

[EhoaVash]

sigh.. team #fake >.>

/me plays more mk8 until potd

 

[ffdgh]

Sure is alot of candy in this topic...

 

[A Link to the Past]

This is not a knock at #TeamFakers, but I have to wonder how many of them subscribe to #TeamFake because they don't like the roster. For example, how many people would have denied the Brawl or Melee leaks if they had a broader appeal to them?

 

[Nintendoga]

Add me to #TeamReal I got a good feeling, and I'm always right 10% of the time

 

[Caladrius]

Not signing up until there's a Neutral camp.

Ganondorf has no need to punch.

I wish more evil sorcerers pimpslapped their enemies into submission.

 

[MagiusNecros]

If we got this I wouldn't complain.

 

[Kinsei]

This is not a knock at #TeamFakers, but I have to wonder how many of them subscribe to #TeamFake because they don't like the roster. For example, how many people would have denied the Brawl or Melee leaks if they had a broader appeal to them?

That's the exact reason I want the leak to be fake. Too many clones and too many cuts.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Ganondorf has no need to punch.

Ganon was pretty brutal on Link in that game.

This is not a knock at #TeamFakers, but I have to wonder how many of them subscribe to #TeamFake because they don't like the roster. For example, how many people would have denied the Brawl or Melee leaks if they had a broader appeal to them?

I'm just suspicious of most leaks by nature. Even if it had Ridley I would still be inclined to say it's fake.

 

[OricWindstar]

Pikachu
16th Place (Victory Music!)

Notable Appearences
Pokemon Red / Green (1996)
Pokemon Yellow (1998)
Hey You, Pikachu! (1998)
Pokemon Gold / Silver (1999)
Pokemon Snap (1999)
Pokemon Stadium (1999)
Pokemon Pinball (1999)
Pokémon Puzzle League (2000)
Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire (2002)
Pokémon Channel (2003)
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team / Red Rescue Team (2005)
Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (2006)
Pokemon Ranger (2006)
Pokemon Black / White (2010)
Pokémon Rumble Blast (2011)
Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2012)
Pokemon X / Y (2013)

Bio
Pikachu (Japanese: ピカチュウ Pikachu) is an Electric-type Pokémon. It evolves from Pichu when leveled up with high friendship and evolves into Raichu when exposed to a Thunder Stone. One of its Pokedex entries reads as follows: It stores electricity in the electric sacs on its cheeks. When it releases pent-up energy in a burst, the electric power is equal to a lightning bolt. Outside of the core games, Pikachu is the mascot of the entire series and by far the most recognizable Pokemon. Its popularity is also boosted by its large role in the anime as Ash Ketchum's first and most loyal Pokemon.

What NeoGAF Says

"I was never a big fan of Pika as the Pokemon mascot, but Smash makes him awesome. He's fast, flashy, and just a ton of fun to use to run through the battle and zap your opponents!" -C.Olimar788

"Haven't found joy quite like scoring a vertical Thunder bolt kill. Surely one of the most tragic changes." - Aexact

"One of the most iconic characters." -sorakirosaki

"I love Pikachu's speed, mobility, and adorability." -Veeboy

"PIKA! BOOOOOOM!" - J-Tier

Congrats, Pikachu!

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