Storm Raider
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So.. I guess we're really not going to get Fez 2 now...
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Polytron Hacked?
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You just know a certain group is going to have a field day with that tweet.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
Yeah, damn developers that have opinions -- especially if I disagree with them! Bunch of idiots deserve it for not being bland, non-opinionated automatons.
I don't give a crap who she did or did not sleep with (and the sleeping around for favors thing was likely not true either), the pretty much confirmed allegations of her fake Doxing herself, shutting down the game game, lying about that disney board harassing her as a means to draw attention? I don't think I would exactly be sitting down with a person like her unless it was for a story, which it apparently isn't since:
It just paints a really bad picture, and fuels allegations of games journalism 'country club' nepotism.
Dragonborn
Member
She was sleeping around with journalists and devs for positive press, or so it's claimed. Don't know if it was ever proven true
There's also accusations that she doxxed someone and that she abused the DMCA system on YouTube to censor bad opinions
Edit: it was proven false
He was calling out and publicly denouncing people that spoke about the "scandal" on twitter.
His tweets got a few people harassed.
Sounds like some other leaps of logic we've been seeing from Sessler recently, unfortunately.
When one walks around like they're bulletproof, eventually someone will see it as a challenge. This is not specific to modern times; it has always been this way going back to the Stone Age. The digital age is a technological mindfield. One should take great caution when traversing through it. I do not approve, but I do not empathize and I'm certainly not surprised this happened.
EmCeeGramr
Member
It was proven false, and none of the other allegations were ever proven either.
Sparrowhawk
Member
A lot of people on Youtube and Twitter still treat him as a gaming god, though. His words still have some weight.
CaptainBroseph
Member
Why is the Polytron twitter hacked, but not Phil Fish's personal twitter?
Why did Sessler make bad jokes about hacking right before this happened?
I don't understand this happening, especially after /v/ was trying to getting support with that indie donation thing.
Why did Sessler make bad jokes about hacking right before this happened?
I don't understand this happening, especially after /v/ was trying to getting support with that indie donation thing.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I'm a shitty writer so can't blame you for getting the wrong idea but that's not what I said at all. If everyone was forced to use their real name all the time there would be far more accountability. But discussion would inherently be filtered. You would always have to introduce points with tact or not introduce certain points at all for threat of being ostracized.
That's possible, but I think it is also possible that it is users trying to get revenge on 4chan for deleting the Zoe Quinn threads. I mean, to people who don't get involved in these things, the capitalization of the V doesn't matter. So it would be easy for enough people to pin it on 4chan without looking into it more. On the other hand, 4chan is also a hive of scum an villainy so wretched that not even Ben Kenobi would venture in. I mean, unless he needed a really fast ship.
This is sarcastic, right?
Dragonborn
Member
Then it was a whole bunch of controversy over nothing. Seriously, what a rollercoaster
Glass Shark
Banned
I know how GAF feels about Ben, but I think this is a pretty solid point:
Even if #NotAllGamers, the ones that do stuff like this are so loud and obnoxious and impactful that it feels really large. I've been looking at Twitter mentions and conversations all week and I don't think I could survive if I had to look at that abuse all day, despite all the positive stuff.
Even if #NotAllGamers, the ones that do stuff like this are so loud and obnoxious and impactful that it feels really large. I've been looking at Twitter mentions and conversations all week and I don't think I could survive if I had to look at that abuse all day, despite all the positive stuff.
Yeah, using tact sounds awful
OdysseusVA
Banned
I believe this
Mysterious
Banned
Wait... how is it even possible to hack into a corporation's website and get all their information? Surely they must be secure?
What wasn't proven false was the Doxing, falsely accusing the Disney board of harassment, ruining the game jam, or abusing the DMCA to take down bad press however, and that should be the real story.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Literally. All of this shit over nothing, just biggots wanting excuses to be open about their shit.
matrixman92
Member
yep, the stuff /v/ was doing was actually good with the whole charity, even if it was in spite. It was still helping people in the end. This whole thing definitely came out of nowhere and just screams false flag
Dragonborn
Member
I know how GAF feels about Ben, but I think this is a pretty solid point:
Even if #NotAllGamers, the ones that do stuff like this are so loud and obnoxious and impactful that it feels really large. I've been looking at Twitter mentions and conversations all week and I don't think I could survive if I had to look at that abuse all day, despite all the positive stuff.
Holy crap, I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with that dude. Very well said
Hope you have a "white male" name.
Nothing is 100% secure.
Quote
Member
Again, easily explainable. They have access to business info, probably a 1password account that multiple people have access to in order to run Polytron.
You wouldn't keep your personal passwords in your work's shared password system.
Apparently he was in a bar with Zoe Quinn and some other friends and some people started going pretty hard attacking their accounts. The attackers got into a few of them, and found out that some indie devs have shared passwords, or login info among themselves, even for skype. So, the attackers started attacking not only Zoe, but also some of the friends she and Adam were with.
Fotheringay
Member
It's been a pretty big bummer over these past few years realizing that someone I loved watching, and briefly considered following career wise, is a complete buffoon.
Sparrowhawk
Member
Same here, buddy. Most logical thing he's ever said.
Not expressing it isn't going to insulate you. This kind of drive-by posting has been getting cracked down on a lot lately.
You've taken one step, why not take the next?
chaobreaker
Member
That game jam was fucked from the very beginning.
http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/
OK, imagine this happening with you. Would you have this reaction? It's not about the 10% or any percentage of the community, majority or minority. And it's not only Phil. More people are being targeted. I have friends that had nothing to do with the story and just mentioned Zoe. Suddenly, they were starting to get harassed on Twitter by fake new accounts and it only stopped because they blocked them. Now, imagine this happening constantly with Phil, Zoe, Nathan and the other "main" targets. Constantly! These are the tweets they're getting and seeing. Every time they go to social media, it's there. How would you feel being constantly harassed like that? It's obviously not about all gamers, but don't you agree that if you're constantly harassed like that, what you work with starts to become a burden? Please think about it.
Screencap of the leaked files makes it look like the hacker got access to the Polytron server.
Someone hacked into the Valve servers and downloaded the freaking Half Life 2 source code. It took them months to recover.
Looks like Fish kept all his financial records relating to Polytron in once place. So they gained access to that place and got everything. Not that hard if you're determined really.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
I know you aren't claiming this is true, but the allegation is sooooo fucking stupid. The only evidence was that after she slept with Grayson, he printed one story that mentioned her game was greenlit in a sea of others.
How this single instance magically turned into "She's sleeping with a ton of journalists in order to curry favour!" is beyond me.
Also, the fact that some claim she's using this "favor" to prevent exposure on places including NeoGAF is hilarious. Considering Evilore's lifestyle and monetary situation, I highly doubt he'd be influenced by such things, even if the opportunity does present itself.
CaptainBroseph
Member
Makes sense.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Yeah, you are right. I'm absolutely sorry for that and I regret posting and derailing this. I will take punishment if GAF's moderation team thinks is correct.
I'm done posting here and wish Fish the best. No one deserves this.
Ingueferroque
Banned
The fuck is wrong with you?
catotheyounger
Member
And they are misguided. His words having weight, then, is not because of his editorial at a publication, but because his opinions are valued. Blackdragon Jeff Green hasn't been a journo for YEARS, would you have the same reaction had he made that tweet?
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
The anonymous aspect of it removes the ability to retrieve post history and the use of the ad hominem fallacy. This is what I tried to articulate initially. In addition, you dont have what happens in reddit, where unpopular users are downvoted before their argument is even glanced at and where you agree with the majority, or again, downvoted into oblivion.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yes. And that's what makes this latest development all the more tragic and wtf worthy.
Even if we were talking about the same game jam (I don't think we are, the one I am talking about was a female dev only initiative where people would code the game for them and profits went to charity), it doesn't make it right.
One of the most beautiful things about complete anonymity is that any abuse you receive while anonymous, or while the abuser is anonymous is completely meaningless. I think the potential for shitposting skyrockets so it is truly a double edges sword, but I don't really feel that abuse has anything to do with it.
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