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i dont know about YOU guys but
im ready for kuvira to strike

if she ends up not being a villain im going to cry

Hahaha.

Was wondering why they were focusing so much on a side character so late in the game. A book 4 tie in makes complete sense, holy shit I wish Nick had ordered 4 seasons from the beginning.
 
potential book 4 spoilers i guess???

her name is Kuvira, captain of Suyin's metal guard
shes the character that Zelda Williams voices in the show
if i had to guess, she will likely be a low/mid level antagonist (maybe part of the red lotus??) for next season. her significance was "foreshadowed" in a prior episode in which she was on the front page of a newspaper. her face was clear and i believe her name was too.

this newspaper thing has happened in book 1 with Tahno, who we had yet to meet properly in the story, and Amon. both antagonists.

If she is Red Lotus why would she save Korras father, when he's a world leader? Shouldn't she have let him die?
 
Jinora being a master does seem premature and she is hardly at Tenzin's level, but I think we can forgive that point since there are so few airbenders. Presumably if she were around when the airbending nation was she wouldn't have been made a master yet. But in the present times they probably need more masters sooner to help with the training of the new airbenders
 
She literally saved Korra + the avatar cycle by orchestrating a tornado. She's earned it.

Also about the last 2 minutes:

From what I assumed, Korra isn't paralyzed. She just isn't strong enough to walk. Wheelchair does not equal paraplegic. A lot of people make this mistake it seems.

Yeah i'm being way too harsh there
I supposed i'm just more annoyed at what's happened with Jinora this season and how a large part of it is to be the damsel in distress for Kai to save.


I don't think Korra is paralyzed as from what Asami said its only been two weeks
so she's still healing at the moment.
 
1.
Fucking called it!
2. Bough the episodes off of Amazon worth it. Amazing finale. I will dive into the discussion more tonight when almost everyone has seen it.
 
Im really curious as to what amazed some of you about the finale. Amazing fights and coreography were a given. But i found what remained beyond that lacked a lot of substance. Especially since zaheer turned out to be just another mad man with no noble intentions (imo).
 
i dont know,
i just want her to be a villain

But what if...

She has a grudge against the Red Lotus for some reason and wanted to help take out Zaheer.

Also, I predict that during the beginning of Book 4.

Zaheer is killed while in prison.

Im really curious as to what amazed some of you about the finale. Amazing fights and coreography were a given. But i found what remained beyond that lacked a lot of substance. Especially since zaheer turned out to be just another mad man with no noble intentions (imo).

Not really. I could see his point of view quite clearly.
He is an anarchist and doesn't view that any one person should have so much power. Killing the avatar fits with that philosophy.
 
So I guess she's just too weak to walk.
Ending was sad ,Korra weak and looks like depressed.
Also Zaheer flying just like DBZ is awesome.
Poor Pli, her death was brutal.
 
Im really curious as to what amazed some of you about the finale. Amazing fights and coreography were a given. But i found what remained beyond that lacked a lot of substance. Especially since zaheer turned out to be just another mad man with no noble intentions (imo).

He had some point. We have seen time and time again top political figures throw the world into chaos. The Earth Queen was raising an air bending army, the Firelord(s) almost took out two nations.

Zaheer was just the other extreme to this.
 
He had some point. We have seen time and time again top political figures throw the world into chaos. The Earth Queen was raising an air bending army, the Firelord(s) almost took out two nations.

Zaheer was just the other extreme to this.

Then by zaheers beliefs those people were doing there jobs. If your gonna be the joker than be the joker. There is no balance in chaos only chaos. So dont strap nobility to it.

And futhermore, he said new growth can only occur with the death of the old. But there must be a balance. Cancer for example is chaos unchecked. It leads to new growth yes but that new growth is malignant and leads to death and not life. What kinda life is that? That life is hectic and stressful. No balance whatsoever. The finale only would have made sense if he took his own life after he accomplished his own goals.
 
Jinora being a master does seem premature and she is hardly at Tenzin's level, but I think we can forgive that point since there are so few airbenders. Presumably if she were around when the airbending nation was she wouldn't have been made a master yet. But in the present times they probably need more masters sooner to help with the training of the new airbenders

Well lets recall that Aang was also an airbending master so
Jinora being a master should not be so crazy. Aang is 12 at the start of ATLAB, and Jinora was 11 in Spirits so it doesn't sound so out there (pulled this from the wiki).
 
Just finished it. I dont know how to use spolier tags but i will say everything just fell flat for me. I guess you cant please everyone.

Go an post in advanced mode (normal post or if you have an extension) and click the black solid button, and wrap around spoiler text, like a quote, bold, or any other modifier.

Or just use this

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Don't include the star
 
By god, that was a fantastic finale.

Some of these scenes were damn brutal, furthermost P'Li's death and Ming-Hua's... defeat. I don't really know if she's dead she made sounds after she fell. Also Mako would be really a dick to be so upbeat after killing someone. Even if she was a terrorist, she's still human. But it was also nice to see, that Mako wasn't actually "stronger" than Ming-Hua, and just got the right thing for a waterbender who is that close to water and Bolin needing help against Ghazan. After the Red Lotus being shown so insanely strong, everything else would've been weird.

My favorite scene was Jinora saving the day. Korra was a lot about power, power of individuals. But Jinora managed to do that last trick not because she is an ÜberBender, but because she knew that they were many.

And by god, I love how Korra is in a wheel chair. Finally, finally hard repercussions, including her mental status. I hope that this gives us some character development in the fourth season and lead to Korra actually refining her diplomatic skills.

And yet, I still have regrets.

Bolins lava bending came out of nowhere. He didn't try it before, he just made something by chance. Really didn't like that part, bad power-up.

The Red Lotus members were gone too fast. Some things were hinted, but I would've loved more insight in the humans behind the master benders. One episode where they take a break and just do everyday stuff would've been nice, but that's lack of time for you, I guess.
Jinora being a master does seem premature and she is hardly at Tenzin's level, but I think we can forgive that point since there are so few airbenders. Presumably if she were around when the airbending nation was she wouldn't have been made a master yet. But in the present times they probably need more masters sooner to help with the training of the new airbenders
Master in the Avatar world just mean, that you learned everything basic to know and can teach people. They should've called it teacher or something.
 
Well lets recall that Aang was also an airbending master so
Jinora being a master should not be so crazy. Aang is 12 at the start of ATLAB, and Jinora was 11 in Spirits so it doesn't sound so out there (pulled this from the wiki).

I dont age is what people are having issue with.
She claims she can do everything her father can it would have to nice to see it...like ever. And in three seasona we havent seen anything to suggest airbending mastery. Hell. Zaheer got airbending outta nowhere and seems leagues above everyone except tenzin. What they should have done make jinora fight against zaheer instead of tenzin. I wouldnt have had a problem with the ending if this was the case.
 
I dont age is what people are having issue with.
She claims she can do everything her father can it would have to nice to see it...like ever. And in three seasona we havent seen anything to suggest airbending mastery. Hell. Zaheer got airbending outta nowhere and seems leagues above everyone except tenzin. What they should have done make jinora fight against zaheer instead of tenzin. I wouldnt have had a problem with the ending if this was the case.
That would've been great. She still could've lost due his superior general fighting experience and lower stamina, so she would need saving or something.
 
He had some point. We have seen time and time again top political figures throw the world into chaos. The Earth Queen was raising an air bending army, the Firelord(s) almost took out two nations.

Zaheer was just the other extreme to this.

Don't forget the Fire Nation completely eliminated the Air Nomads (with the exception of Aang, of course).

Then by zaheers beliefs those people were doing there jobs. If your gonna be the joker than be the joker. There is no balance in chaos only chaos. So dont strap nobility to it.

And futhermore, he said new growth can only occur with the death of the old. But there must be a balance. Cancer for example is chaos unchecked. It leads to new growth yes but that new growth is malignant and leads to death and not life. What kinda life is that? That life is hectic and stressful. No balance whatsoever. The finale only would have made sense if he took his own life after he accomplished his own goals.

I feel like people have a misconception of what anarchism is and therefore what the Red Lotus wants.

While the word "anarchy" has negative connotations, anarchism isn't about plunging people into a state of endless warfare.

It's about the elimination of the state in favor of self-governance where no one has authority over another (which is why the Red Lotus is in opposition to the avatar, a person who has been granted authority simply by being bound to a very powerful spirit).

When Zaheer says that "the natural order is disorder", he's saying that he wants to destroy the order brought about by the state. Many indigenous peoples lived in a state of anarchy before colonialism forced them to comply with a government (some of them still exist though).

John Lennon's "Imagine" is an anarchist song essentially.
 
Come to think of it, Zaheer was only able to fly when P'li died. Losing P'li was letting go of his earthly connections.
And he didn't go for all-out insane revenge, as I first feared in that scene.

All in all a solid finale with some truly epic, fantastic fights. The design of the four villian was a standout in this season & the show as a whole. A really good season overall and a significant step-up from Book 2.
Hope they go through with Korra being down
, but I don't hold my breath. Reading this thread the past few days after binging S2 & S3 (Stopped after S2-start was so lackluster), the showrunners don't seem to be all that engaged or interested in what's going on.
 
I was right!

Bolin > Sokka
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By god, that was a fantastic finale.

Some of these scenes were damn brutal, furthermost P'Li's death and Ming-Hua's... defeat. I don't really know if she's dead she made sounds after she fell. Also Mako would be really a dick to be so upbeat after killing someone. Even if she was a terrorist, she's still human. But it was also nice to see, that Mako wasn't actually "stronger" than Ming-Hua, and just got the right thing for a waterbender who is that close to water and Bolin needing help against Ghazan. After the Red Lotus being shown so insanely strong, everything else would've been weird.

My favorite scene was Jinora saving the day. Korra was a lot about power, power of individuals. But Jinora managed to do that last trick not because she is an ÜberBender, but because she knew that they were many.

And by god, I love how Korra is in a wheel chair. Finally, finally hard repercussions, including her mental status. I hope that this gives us some character development in the fourth season and lead to Korra actually refining her diplomatic skills.

And yet, I still have regrets.

Bolins lava bending came out of nowhere. He didn't try it before, he just made something by chance. Really didn't like that part, bad power-up.

The Red Lotus members were gone too fast. Some things were hinted, but I would've loved more insight in the humans behind the master benders. One episode where they take a break and just do everyday stuff would've been nice, but that's lack of time for you, I guess.
Master in the Avatar world just mean, that you learned everything basic to know and can teach people. They should've called it teacher or something.

Mastery absolutely does not mean that. There are many teachers. But few masters. The Avatar learn bending from masters. People who have dedicated their lives to being the best at what they do. Go watch Avatar and the Fire Lord and tell me the people he roku learned bending from where merely teachers. There is a big big difference that you are not appreciating.

Also thanks to volotaire for teaching me about spoiler tags.
 
Mastery absolutely does not mean that. There are many teachers. But few masters. The Avatar learn bending from masters. People who have dedicated their lives to being the best at what they do. Go watch Avatar and the Fire Lord and tell me the people he roku learned bending from where merely teachers. There is a big big difference that you are not appreciating.
I meant in the context of the "masters" in the Avatar world's airbenders. As someone pointed out, Aang was a master and in Korra it was made quite clear, that Tenzin didn't made Jinora master, because he didn't want to lose his daughter, so she was able for a while now. That's why I said they rather should called it teacher
 
Don't forget the Fire Nation completely eliminated the Air Nomads (with the exception of Aang, of course).



I feel like people have a misconception of what anarchism is and therefore what the Red Lotus wants.

While the word "anarchy" has negative connotations, anarchism isn't about plunging people into a state of endless warfare.

It's about the elimination of the state in favor of self-governance where no one has authority over another (which is why the Red Lotus is in opposition to the avatar, a person who has been granted authority simply by being bound to a very powerful spirit).

When Zaheer says that "the natural order is disorder", he's saying that he wants to destroy the order brought about by the state. Many indigenous peoples lived in a state of anarchy before colonialism forced them to comply with a government (some of them still exist though).

John Lennon's "Imagine" is an anarchist song essentially.

But zaheers motivations contradict themselves given that the avatar is in opposition to such leadership and forced governance. See roku and koyoshi(sp?) The avatar doesnt roam the world telling people what to do. In fact, zaheer is essentially becoming his own enemy. What if the people want an elected leader? Would he kill and strike down such a person? If so, he would be imposing his own will. He could have just as easily convinced people that they did not need leaders without going to the chaos route. Brings brings fear and in times of fear people give up their freedoms for order.

Edit: when avatar yangchen was around peoole feared and respected her so much that there was peace for 200 years after she died. Im guessing zaheer would have tried to taken her out as well. Thankfully, yangchen wasnt a bitch ass avatar and would have destroyed him.

Zaheer was trying to be robin hood accept he was trying to steal from the wrong people. Also we never were given a reason as to why he believed this stuff in the first place which is disappointing.
 
I didn't read through all of the comments yet..... But who else thought this


The whole time during the ceremony I was like "Ugh Jinora is going to look so stupid without her hair" then he turns out to look EXACTLY like Aang!!!! That's awesome!!
 
I meant in the context of the "masters" in the Avatar world's airbenders. As someone pointed out, Aang was a master and in Korra it was made quite clear, that Tenzin didn't made Jinora master, because he didn't want to lose his daughter, so she was able for a while now. That's why I said they rather should called it teacher

Air Teacher doesn't sound quite as cool as Air master though.
 
I meant in the context of the "masters" in the Avatar world's airbenders. As someone pointed out, Aang was a master and in Korra it was made quite clear, that Tenzin didn't made Jinora master, because he didn't want to lose his daughter, so she was able for a while now. That's why I said they rather should called it teacher

Jinora's
mastery
reminds me of red letter media's review of one of the star wars prequels. Remember the scene where obiwan and anakin are talking about all the adventures they were on together that the audience has never seen? Thats not how you build a relationship. It takes time. You cant build one in a single sentence. Likewise, i dont accept what the authors did with jinora. Yes. We've heard tenzin's claims but as the adage says seeing is believing.
 
Jinora's
mastery
reminds me of red letter media's review of one of the star wars prequels. Remember the scene where obiwan and anakin are talking about all the adventures they were on together that the audience has never seen? Thats not how you build a relationship. It takes time. You cant build one in a single sentence. Likewise, i dont accept what the authors did with jinora. Yes. We've heard tenzin's claims but as the adage says seeing is believing.
Ok, first things first. You have a button to create spoiler tags. Just click it, and you get empty ones. Every tag starts with [TAG] and ends with [/TAG] and 'SPOILER' is written in singular.

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Now to the actual post.
I didn't watch any Star Wars movie besides Revenge of the Sith.
That aside, I know what you mean, but I think that the title don't mean, what it means. I refer again to Aang who was a master at young age.
 
Also, looks like Korra is the first person in history to

platinum bend. It makes enough sense. She was the first metal bending avatar, so combine metal bending with the avatar state and you got yourself some platinum bending.

I swear how don't people know by now that when the avatar enters the avatar state, he/she is about to f*** s*** up? Just sayin things aint about to go according to plan when you got that to deal with.


Also, to whoever said it, it's highly doubtful that anyone will earn to fly in season 4. The only reason Zaheer could fly is because P'li died, and she was the last worldly thing tying Zaheer down.
 
I still think not enough people on Korra's side died. This felt like a Bleach fight where everything looks cool, but people on the main character's side do not really take any casualties.
 
Ok, first things first. You have a button to create spoiler tags. Just click it, and you get empty ones. Every tag starts with [TAG] and ends with [/TAG] and 'SPOILER' is written in singular.

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Now to the actual post.
I didn't watch any Star Wars movie besides Revenge of the Sith.
That aside, I know what you mean, but I think that the title don't mean, what it means. I refer again to Aang who was a master at young age.

Thanks for the spoiler tag correction. I had the / in the wrong place. Sorry to those who may have been spoiled.

Anyway. Aang was a master because he passed through 35 of the 36 trails of master airbeding training and developed a new technique called the air scooter. The kid was an air bending prodigy for a reason, dude. I dont think there is anyway around that.
 
Also, looks like Korra is the first person in history to

platinum bend. It makes enough sense. She was the first metal bending avatar, so combine metal bending with the avatar state and you got yourself some platinum bending.

I swear how don't people know by now that when the avatar enters the avatar state, he/she is about to f*** s*** up? Just sayin things aint about to go according to plan when you got that to deal with.


Also, to whoever said it, it's highly doubtful that anyone will earn to fly in season 4. The only reason Zaheer could fly is because P'li died, and she was the last worldly thing tying Zaheer down.

The writers sort of address this both in the show and in an interview. Techniques like lightning-bending just become more commonplace as the general public becomes aware of it.

Just because Zaheer does it one way does not mean others will not discover easier methods.

Still, I do not know I would like it if more people learned to do so. As for platinum-bending, I do not think she did.
 
Also, looks like Korra is the first person in history to

platinum bend. It makes enough sense. She was the first metal bending avatar, so combine metal bending with the avatar state and you got yourself some platinum bending.

I swear how don't people know by now that when the avatar enters the avatar state, he/she is about to f*** s*** up? Just sayin things aint about to go according to plan when you got that to deal with.


Also, to whoever said it, it's highly doubtful that anyone will earn to fly in season 4. The only reason Zaheer could fly is because P'li died, and she was the last worldly thing tying Zaheer down.
But did she?
She ripped out the chains by sheer force and then just used the chain at some point like a chain. At least that was what I gathered.

I still think not enough people on Korra's side died. This felt like a Bleach fight where everything looks cool, but people on the main character's side do not really take any casualties.
I thought the same actually, but I realize that this is still a kids show on Nick. Would be interesting if they allowed that.
Thanks for the spoiler tag correction. I had the / in the wrong place. Sorry to those who may have been spoiled.

Anyway. Aang was a master because he passed through 35 of the 36 trails of master airbeding training and developed a new technique called the air scooter. The kid was an air bending prodigy for a reason, dude. I dont think there is anyway around that.
Jinora did create/use the spirit thingie.
 
I absolutely can't stand Jinora and the rest of the kids (except Kai), they are unfunny and so annoying.

Kai is at least interesting, because he is trying to redeem himself.

Bolin was awesome in the 2 episodes and way better than Mako and Asami. He can
Lavabend
which is great.

I know the
bad guys are supposed to lose, but I hate how they nerfed them down to make the good guys win.
 
Just finished watching the 2 episode final...

I am disappointed that Tenzin or another major character of Team Avatar did not face an ultimate sacrifice. Once it became clear that Tenzin wasn't going to to die, it kind of took a lot of the tension and suspense out of the rest of the episode. Yea, it was cool and stuff, but we already know that Korra isn't going to die since the series in named after her and there is going to be a 4th season. It just came off as a paint by the numbers, going through the the motion, beat for beat situation.

P'Li death was brutal and unexpected, which gave the Red Lotus motivation and drive to finish of their mission. That is what was missing from Team Avatar. I am pleased to see that Korra is facing hardship from this battle, since it gives me hope for greater character development.
 
Almost forgot that episode 13 - Venom of the Red Lotus is the 100th overall episode of avatar.
That's pretty neat.
Good thing the episode was fantastic.
 
OMG it´s Aang junior. I expected Toph to come and save the day at any moment. I am not satisfied with this ending. Korra, again proves that she gets depressed when lose a part of her. First time happened when she lost her bending in season. Finally Asami kicked ass. Bolin magma bended huh? Not bad. As far as Mako, i was wondering why did he not use lightning on her water arms. I got my answer :D
I still dislike how Jinora can spiritually teleport everywhere. I did like the end plan of the red lotus. When the president of Republic City spoke about red lotus still being around, i had a suspicion that Tenzin´s wife might be one because how the camera rotated when the president said that.
 
Okay My thought's on Season 3 Finale/ Season 3 in general

The finale was... good, lets get this over and done with I don't think they will be another season like season one with Amon's ending. Episode Twelve was really good, Did Sparkly Sparkly Boom Lady get her head blown off? that was something else. Zaheer, What disappointing villain I was hoping he would have a much better agenda than throwing off world powers and the avatar. I like the idea of Air Benders Becoming Peace Keepers? I guess? I feel that's going to have some effects in Season Four. Jinora becoming an air master was pretty cool too. Overall I think story wise Season Three is the 2nd strongest ending behind Book One. Also Korra looks like absolute shit in the finale. I feel bad for her. I guess Book 4 will be the Avatar hunting down the rest of Red Lotus?
 
When the president of Republic City spoke about red lotus still being around, i had a suspicion that Tenzin´s wife might be one because how the camera rotated when the president said that.
Haha, I thought exactly that. But I doubt she is, since Zaheer would've known that his Avatar would be in another castle. I still have my eyes on Opal though. They way she obviously opened her lock, looked like she was either super stupid or wanted the guard to see it.
 
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