Have you done the ALS ice bucket challenge?

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I got nominated this evening I will probly do it and give 10 bucks or so. I need to check the quality of the charity before I donate though. A friend told me that only 7% of donations go to research, I feel that's low so I will need to check out ALS

Alright looked into, its 27% goes to research, must have misheard him. That's not bad. Will give them the money!
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
This is not a major concern to the drought but the drought itself is nothing to ignore. Why waste water? Like the EPA quote is saying at least do it in a yard that needs water or something.

Here's some more humorous reading for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_scarcity_in_Africa
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Uh yeah I know about the droughts. I didn't say that the droughts were hilarious, the fact that THIS is the first thing that you object to is hilarious
 
CaptainGyro said:
Uh yeah I know about the droughts. I didn't say that the droughts were hilarious, the fact that THIS is the first thing that you object to is hilarious
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It's not the first thing but I would certainly hope that people who do this are also aware of water scarcity which is a plight that affects a lot of people.
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
It's not the first thing but I would certainly hope that people who do this are also aware of water scarcity which is a plight that affects a lot of people.
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Of course they do. A lot of people in the world know that about Africa and we always hear about forest fires or other similar things hitting California each year. If even an American celebrity farts, we hear about it on the news. But using that to hijack a charity is a bit out of order, and without facts to back it up.
 
Vire said:
Leave it to GAF to be incredibly cynical about donating money to charity for a life threatening disease.

Jesus...
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Its probably not about that its just that all these "challenges" are pretry stupid. This is a worthy cause though.
 
dreamlock said:
From the other thread:
"ALS Ice Bucket Challenge Co-founder drowns in diving accident"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=879500

Just started to watch these challenges online as plenty of celebrities have been doing it, and then something like that happens...just..tragic. R.I.P
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Wow, such irony and tragedy. RIP.

As for me, I was nominated but didn't feel like spending time dumping water on myself, so I donated $100 to ALSA.
 
I saw some kid say something to the effect of "so many worthy charities equally don't get enough attention or contribution, so I'm donating to this Alzheimer's foundation instead", and immediately get shit on in proceeding comments for it.

That sucked to see. (The comments)
 
cwmartin said:
I saw some kid say something to the effect of "so many worthy charities equally don't get enough attention or contribution, so I'm donating to this Alzheimer's foundation instead", and immediately get shit on in proceeding comments for it.

That sucked to see. (The comments)
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It's that mob mentality. You do something that deviates from the crowd, you get attacked.

I'm glad someone's actually making a donation at all vs the oneupsmanship that has celebrities claiming to throw 10k at the ALS Foundation(Charlie Sheen) or are trying to do macho shit with 4 ice buckets in an ice bath.

I was nominated yesterday night so I'm making my humble donation now and maybe an ice bucket later on.
 
freddy said:
No and it seems a lot of people doing it are attention whores. Good on people donating and what not though,
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And without those people gaining attention, there would be no awareness for ALS, which has raised over 31 million so far. Up from the previous year where they only raised 2 million.
 
DR2K said:
And without those people gaining attention, there would be no awareness for ALS, which has raised over 31 million so far. Up from the previous year where they only raised 2 million.
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That's awesome. Not sure why you picked out my post out of all the disparaging ones considering I said good on people for donating.
 
cacophony said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuaVFZ95TqQ
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That ending line

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Love em
 
DR2K said:
And without those people gaining attention, there would be no awareness for ALS, which has raised over 31 million so far. Up from the previous year where they only raised 2 million.
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They raised alot more money than that in previous years. I have a hard time donating to an organisation where only 20-35% of donations go toward research and helping people with ALS. Especially when the head of the organisation is making a salary of $350,000. The ALS association is paying just as much, some years more, in salaries than they are spending on actual ALS research. In my opinion charities should be more about giving the money to what they are raising it for and less about lining their own pockets. I understand that there will be some expenses but I don't see how they can raise around 20 million and only using 4-6 million for research and helping people with ALS.

I'd rather do a little research and find a charity that gives most of the money raised for the reason it was raised.

I do agree that the ice bucket challenge has raised awareness, which is a good thing.
 
No.

I don;t have a Facebook account, I don't particularly fancy pouring ice water on myself, and there's no way in hell I'm going to reveal my name and face in a video on the Internet.
 
Think of it this way. Playing around, doing silly things like dares, jumping in cold water, challenging friends, sharing, making videos, talking to people...these are fun activities. People enjoy doing them because it's a game. So some people invented a game where you have to pour cold water on yourself and tell your friends. And it turns out it's really popular. And best of all, they gave the game away for free. They don't want any money, but they attach a note to the game "Hey, give some money to ALS." Tons of people play the game, many give to ALS, billions of dollars are raised, most people have fun. Could people have donated without playing? Sure. But they weren't going to. So you might as well celebrate that a good cause found a way to leverage human nature to potentially save lives and that they had fun doing it.

You can now about "dignity" or "wrong intentions" But the truth is that fun is a better motivation that guilt, and that a charity for ALL figured that out and took advantage of it is a thing to celebrate.
 
tbro777 said:
They raised alot more money than that in previous years. I have a hard time donating to an organisation where only 20-35% of donations go toward research and helping people with ALS. Especially when the head of the organisation is making a salary of $350,000. The ALS association is paying just as much, some years more, in salaries than they are spending on actual ALS research. In my opinion charities should be more about giving the money to what they are raising it for and less about lining their own pockets. I understand that there will be some expenses but I don't see how they can raise around 20 million and only using 4-6 million for research and helping people with ALS.

I'd rather do a little research and find a charity that gives most of the money raised for the reason it was raised.

I do agree that the ice bucket challenge has raised awareness, which is a good thing.
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You do realize that charities also have other programs aside from straight research efforts that help people who are afflicted with these types of diseases. Based on the ALS Assocation's annual report (http://www.alsa.org/about-us/financial-information.html), 27% of their budget went to research, 32% went to public and professional and education, and 19% went to patient and community services in the last year.

In fact, only 7% of their 2013 budget went to admin costs. I don't know why you're complaining about their CEO, when the majority of their expenses went to their stated programs.
 
disillusion386 said:
You do realize that charities also have other programs aside from straight research efforts that help people who are afflicted with these types of diseases. Based on the ALS Assocation's annual report (http://www.alsa.org/about-us/financial-information.html), 27% of their budget went to research, 32% went to public and professional and education, and 19% went to patient and community services in the last year.

In fact, only 7% of their 2013 budget went to admin costs. I don't know why you're complaining about their CEO, when the majority of their expenses went to their stated programs.
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I don't believe there 2013 tax returns have been published yet. In 2012 they had roughly 19 million in revenue, only paid out 6.8 million of that for research, education, patients etc.(line 13 on the tax return) 5.1 million went to salaries.

I'm not condemning anyone who donates to this organisation, it is still better to donate to this than to nothing. i just feel that people should know where their money is going and not be under the guise that all of the money goes to to purpose of the charity.

It's my opinion that charities should be ran by volunteers and not paid employees, that makes this more a business and less a charity.

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tbro777 said:
I don't believe there 2013 tax returns have been published yet. In 2012 they had roughly 19 million in revenue, only paid out 6.8 million of that for research, education, patients etc.(line 13 on the tax return) 5.1 million went to salaries.

I'm not condemning anyone who donates to this organisation, it is still better to donate to this than to nothing. i just feel that people should know where their money is going and not be under the guise that all of the money goes to to purpose of the charity.

It's my opinion that charities should be ran by volunteers and not paid employees, that makes this more a business and less a charity.

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You don't think the doctors, chemists, etc. who had to go thorugh years of schooling in order to be capable of performing the research should be paid for their work?

I get that the organization is a charity, but they can employ professionals in order to produce the research and cures that they would then make public.
 
No, but my good friend just got called out by his girlfriend so I have a feeling he will try to call me out. Probably just donate at that point lol.
 
tbro777 said:
I don't believe there 2013 tax returns have been published yet. In 2012 they had roughly 19 million in revenue, only paid out 6.8 million of that for research, education, patients etc.(line 13 on the tax return) 5.1 million went to salaries.

I'm not condemning anyone who donates to this organisation, it is still better to donate to this than to nothing. i just feel that people should know where their money is going and not be under the guise that all of the money goes to to purpose of the charity.

It's my opinion that charities should be ran by volunteers and not paid employees, that makes this more a business and less a charity.

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Good TED Talk on this:

http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pallotta_the_way_we_think_about_charity_is_dead_wrong
 
tbro777 said:
I don't believe there 2013 tax returns have been published yet. In 2012 they had roughly 19 million in revenue, only paid out 6.8 million of that for research, education, patients etc.(line 13 on the tax return) 5.1 million went to salaries.

I'm not condemning anyone who donates to this organisation, it is still better to donate to this than to nothing. i just feel that people should know where their money is going and not be under the guise that all of the money goes to to purpose of the charity.

It's my opinion that charities should be ran by volunteers and not paid employees, that makes this more a business and less a charity.

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You shouldn't use their IRS form to base where the budget is going because it doesn't break their expenses down. Here's a better document from an independent auditor: http://www.alsa.org/assets/pdfs/fy2014-20als-20association-20financial-20statements-20final.pdf

I work for a research and advocacy non-profit, and we are required to bill our hours on specific projects. These projects are the bulk of my organization's mission statement. So what may seem like salary expenses on a tax return may actually be money going into the services an organization is meant to provide.

Here's an example, on page 5 of the auditor's report, $2 million of ALS' salary expenses went to patient and community services.
 
tbro777 said:
I don't believe there 2013 tax returns have been published yet. In 2012 they had roughly 19 million in revenue, only paid out 6.8 million of that for research, education, patients etc.(line 13 on the tax return) 5.1 million went to salaries.

I'm not condemning anyone who donates to this organisation, it is still better to donate to this than to nothing. i just feel that people should know where their money is going and not be under the guise that all of the money goes to to purpose of the charity.

It's my opinion that charities should be ran by volunteers and not paid employees, that makes this more a business and less a charity.

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What??? You do realize people have to pay to manage the funds somehow, right? Volunteers won't stick around if they're doing the heavy lifting only to find the Directors and the Board making 6 figure salaries and perk packages.

C'mon now. No one assumes that their donations are 100% going to the cause. Overhead always eats away at those amounts.
 
No but I donated $10 like a week ago. I wish I can give more but I only started working again today. I'll probably give $50 when I get my check.
 
Nostremitus said:
You don't think the doctors, chemists, etc. who had to go thorugh years of schooling in order to be capable of performing the research should be paid for their work?

I get that the organization is a charity, but they can employ professionals in order to produce the research and cures that they would then make public.
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Doctors and chemists are not working directly for the ALS Association. They are paid by Grant money from the association. The salaries are strictly the association staff members. I understand you have to have some paid employees, but I don't see how the ceo can take a $350k salary when working for a non-profit.
 
I thought only famous people did it.
I just found out right now that regular joes are doing this too. Did not know.
 
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