ShockingAlberto
Member
So it sounds like this game suffers from the same curse the first game of every licensed Musou game suffers from? i.e., a solid concept but not enough content.
Hyrule Warriors (Zelda Musou) Import Impressions
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Elaborate on not enough content. I have to hear this one because Adventure mode is the larger part of the game.
Uh.. My take is that Musou series generally have wealth of content, but not good enough of solid concept/foundation to make it A-tier series, compared to Basara, with solid foundation, but much less content.
ShockingAlberto
Member
As in people finishing the adventure and free modes within a day or two, which was a problem with One Piece Musou, Gundam Musou, and Hokuto Musou's first games.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
OP said story mode took about 10 hours on normal. If that's too short and "a day or two" then I don't even. Add to that the adventure mode. Also, personally if the characters are fun I enjoy re-playing the game a lot, especially on harder difficulties.
EDIT: Not trying to defense-force this ;b Just saying the length seems fine to me.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Relatively normal if you steamroll with a single character. And with Adventure mode you have to play as different characters and obtain a certain rank in the stage to progress. They are planning more content supposedly in lieu of costumes, characters, and new scenarios. Scenario's being free mode stages. Who knows how much though.
Alongside lots of replayability obtaining all the weapons, and gold skulltula's and beating every stage on every difficulty.
But I can understand your concern.
Brizzo24
Member
For those who played the game, I was wondering: how is the game on harder difficulties? One thing I disliked in Dynasty Warriors 8 is the enemy officers who are really tedious to kill on higher difficulties, since if you can't use the Rage rush mode you need to either use simple attacks in order to not send them flying away (waiting for them to stand up again after falling down is not ideal), either juggle them to death (not really something I'm fond of), either use the affinity system (and sometimes you can't because of your weapon choices). Is it the same in HW, or does the game makes the fights more fluid/interesting thanks to the weak points of enemies and the dodging?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Keep in mind, I am comparing this to other games from the same developer and in the same genre.
It depends on how it plays, so I'll see for myself, but that does sound pretty short and not at all surprising considering the aforementioned pattern.
tonyh24613
Member
No! It's almost impossible to finish adventure mode in less then 50 hrs. I spent 30hrs in it and it's still half finished.
Yea, sounds like the real content stems from Adventure mode.
I haven't read or heard much in terms of completing special challenges on hard/chaos on certain stages to unlock ultimate weapons or items as in most other Musou games. I would assume they are in there and would be a boon to nailing S-ranks in Adventure mode missions...but its been quiet about that stuff from importers.
I haven't read or heard much in terms of completing special challenges on hard/chaos on certain stages to unlock ultimate weapons or items as in most other Musou games. I would assume they are in there and would be a boon to nailing S-ranks in Adventure mode missions...but its been quiet about that stuff from importers.
Didn't know where to post this or if it's already been mentioned, but when I went to work today (Best Buy) and noticed the Hyrule Warriors trailer playing on the Wii U display, checked real fast and lo and behold there's a Playable Demo, should be at all Best Buy stores in the US with a Wii U display. With Playable Link, Zelda and Midna.
tonyh24613
Member
I like the game up until now but I still have some things I don't understand due to my very little japanese langage knowledge. Can someone clarify a couple things to me without spoilers please?
- Adventure Mode (it's the one with the TLoZ map right? not the main story one):
S-Rank needs 3 things: 1/ Numbers of enemies beat; 2/ Time; 3/ ???? something in the thousands. Don't understand what it is, got S-Rank at first on it yesterday but not on enemy beaten, then got S-Rank on enemies and rupees but not the third one :/
- Bottles and shop. It seems I can only do something there only one time between each game. Is there a way to sell shit? As far as I can tell, I can only buy material. How do I use it outside the unlocking stuff in the "tech" trees?
Do my bottles are only related to the tech tree?
- Game over! Only got one so far, but to farm the maps for stuff and heart containers, I need more time! But things are constantly blinking all over the place, urging me to act toward the end of the mission, without further exploring.
What are the conditions for a game over? So I will know when I can ignore the blinking things on the mini map.
- Adventure Mode (it's the one with the TLoZ map right? not the main story one):
S-Rank needs 3 things: 1/ Numbers of enemies beat; 2/ Time; 3/ ???? something in the thousands. Don't understand what it is, got S-Rank at first on it yesterday but not on enemy beaten, then got S-Rank on enemies and rupees but not the third one :/
- Bottles and shop. It seems I can only do something there only one time between each game. Is there a way to sell shit? As far as I can tell, I can only buy material. How do I use it outside the unlocking stuff in the "tech" trees?
Do my bottles are only related to the tech tree?
- Game over! Only got one so far, but to farm the maps for stuff and heart containers, I need more time! But things are constantly blinking all over the place, urging me to act toward the end of the mission, without further exploring.
What are the conditions for a game over? So I will know when I can ignore the blinking things on the mini map.
tonyh24613
Member
- Damage taken. I'm not certain but I think 1 heart = 400 damage
- You can use heart recovery potions 0~3 times in each battle, depends on tech trees you upgraded(second set, bottle icon). And no, you can't sell materials, use materials to make special potions. Those potions can't be drunk during battle, but will make weapons obtained from that battle stronger, or having certain kinds of skills.
- Your base was taken down or your main comrade is defeated. Conditions for victory/game over may change during the battle. I think people in Warriors series thread can answer this question better.
I hope they don't patch this out.
How is that activated, as a separate costume, or some piece of equipment? And do other characters also have palette swaps?
How is that activated, as a separate costume, or some piece of equipment? And do other characters also have palette swaps?
Thank you very much!
So basically I have to check only the main base.
And damage taken, I kinda suspected it was that, but the ~6k number was odd so... I failed bc of the cuccos then!
ActStriker
Member
More often that not, if your main base goes down, you are fucked. Gundam Musou did a good job of telling you when your base hit around 60-70%, so you have time to get back; it's probably the same here.
tonyh24613
Member
For S Rank
Enemy beat: >1200
Time: <15:00
damage taken: depends but better be <4000
Enemy beat: >1200
Time: <15:00
damage taken: depends but better be <4000
I believe Enemy beat is variable too, I'm only in the first levels but the game let you notice when it's ok (and it was ok with 1k on the second leevl I did).
That is actually very similar Pirate Warriors 2 except you can only take <1000 damage on normal - hard and <2000 on very hard (chaos). Plus less than 12mins instead of 15.
It seems they are more forgiving in this game as opposed to PW2.
I hope they don't patch this out.
Wow now Link's more fabulous than ghirahim lol
I'm having a blast with the game, in a day and a half I put in 11 hours, I'm hooked. Even if getting to the end of the story is just 10 hours (I don't know if it is, I've been playing adventure too), adventure mode and replaying the levels with different characters and to find the skulltulas guarantee a lot of hours.
It's super fun in co-op, a shame it doesn't have online, but the gamepad is a godsend.
It's super fun in co-op, a shame it doesn't have online, but the gamepad is a godsend.
RPGCrazied
Member
So, is it 10 hours for the campaign? Or does that playtime include all of adventure mode? Any type of new game plus where you can replay stages/story with different characters?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Nice! You playing a localized version for review already?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
tonyh24613
Member
Collected these gems from Miiverse before KOEI patch them out.
Personal favorite
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
I smell a new Smash Bros trophy!
Whats the blue staff Ruto is holding?
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Probably a special fire rod.
WordAssassin
Member
I haven't been keeping up, but is Fierce Deity Link in this at all? I feel like that's a no-brainer for this kind of game.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
just as a stat boost item, that isn't aesthetic.
StreetsAhead
Member
Been playing co-op almost exclusively and I think between adventure and legend mode we have nearly seventeen hours. Not even close to done adventure mode and five levels left in legend. If you just want to race through the campaign you can definitely finish quickly, but if you want to unlock all weapons, characters, and upgrades you could probably spend five times that. There's also achievements to unlock.
Am interested to see what this new mode is that they have planned for the next update.
Am interested to see what this new mode is that they have planned for the next update.
WordAssassin
Member
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
If you would have done any amount of research or at least read a few comments before posting, you'd know that of course there are harder difficulties, just like in any Warriors games.
Collected these gems from Miiverse before KOEI patch them out.
Warrior Midna is hilarious. Should have owrn the shield as a mask, though.
Any videos of these weapon switches?
Personal favorite
This is nightmare inducing. Link looks like he's been turned into a dummy.
tonyh24613
Member
Unlocked summoning gate today,
lol @ Lana doing cheerleader dance while summoning Manhandla'head. Summoning mini bosses is hilarious, but I still don't know how to use this weapon efficiently, great fairy either.
I'm in the second party of the main story.
Still enjoying it very much but yeah it's becoming repetitive. There is a lot of content, and for me getting some S-Rank in Adventure Mode looks hard enough even on the lowest difficulty setting!
I don't get the glitches, only glitch to me so far is a sound one at the end of the victory sequences.
Also, regarding that character in the second party (I assume) of the game:
I think Tecmo Koei made a great work with the characters. I see the fan reactions with fan arts etc... and I think HW will feed the community and characters background for years. That was kinda unexpected before hand. Characters like Impa, Ruto, Darunia... who rarely or never got a chance to shine have it now.
Last thing, I don't believe it's spoiler worthy, but I came across that scene with Cia... And yeah it's the only time so far they did it, but they actually did a cut-scene with zooms all over Cia's ass and boobs. So I'm not sure what to think of this, it wasn't creepy but it was unexpected for a Zelda game, but I knew this could happen for a Tecmo Koei game.
Still enjoying it very much but yeah it's becoming repetitive. There is a lot of content, and for me getting some S-Rank in Adventure Mode looks hard enough even on the lowest difficulty setting!
I don't get the glitches, only glitch to me so far is a sound one at the end of the victory sequences.
Also, regarding that character in the second party (I assume) of the game:
Playing Ganondorf is a lot of fun. I never was a fan of Demise but giving his moveset to Ganondorf (the "X" yellow special move) is a great idea; So much powerfull, and that's exactly what Ganon is, the holder of the Triforce of power. He's so fitted to this game and for those who always wanted a Ganon spin-off, maybe some DLC could do the trick.
Take that, fraking Gorons!
Take that, fraking Gorons!
I think Tecmo Koei made a great work with the characters. I see the fan reactions with fan arts etc... and I think HW will feed the community and characters background for years. That was kinda unexpected before hand. Characters like Impa, Ruto, Darunia... who rarely or never got a chance to shine have it now.
Last thing, I don't believe it's spoiler worthy, but I came across that scene with Cia... And yeah it's the only time so far they did it, but they actually did a cut-scene with zooms all over Cia's ass and boobs. So I'm not sure what to think of this, it wasn't creepy but it was unexpected for a Zelda game, but I knew this could happen for a Tecmo Koei game.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Gotta check out all the details of your foe obviously
TriangleMasher
Member
So the game only has one campaign I'm assuming? 10 hours is actually pretty short as far as just campaign is concerned for Musou titles. DW3-8 have had campaigns last 10 hours for a single faction.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Well it does have the adventure mode stuff
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Is the bolded avoidable? Can you just skip cutscenes/avoid Cia altogether?
Spring-Loaded
Member
Agitha makes bugs shoot out of his mouth.
Hyperactivity
Banned
From what I understand, asides from higher difficulty making enemies harder and dangerous, Musou games require you to have stage awareness, because there's one whole giant battlefield and you can only be at one place at a time