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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty

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This stream made me realize how pretty boring the selection for 3DS stages is if the leak is true.

Also why does the Gameboy stage not use the Gameboy as a stage selection screen mrgrgr petty niggles

Yeah, the stage list is pretty weak if true.

It's just the returning stages in all honesty. Corneria should of been a new stage etc. etc.
 
This stream made me realize how pretty boring the selection for 3DS stages is if the leak is true.

Also why does the Gameboy stage not use the Gameboy as a stage selection screen mrgrgr petty niggles
Well the Game and Watch stage in Brawl was a close up on what's on the screen rather than the machine itself.

I find the Tomodachi Life stage icon odd myself. Since it's like Luigi's Mansion I would have thought they'd go for the full building shot again.

But I suppose that's not possible without a full building shot to base it off of.
 
Well the Game and Watch stage in Brawl was a close up on what's on the screen rather than the machine itself.

I find the Tomodachi Life stage icon odd myself. Since it's like Luigi's Mansion I would have thought they'd go for the full building shot again.

But I suppose that's not possible without a full building shot to base it off of.

Also, why is Yoshi's Island.. off-centered?
 
But I suppose that's not possible without a full building shot to base it off of.
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A full building shot exists.
 
It seems off to me that the Tomodachi Life stage select icon would be something you only have a certain chance of even seeing.

Then again, stuff like the Bulborb for Distant Planet are odd too so who knows.
 
Just because an entirely unrelated stage was zoomed out, doesn't mean the Tomadachi stage image has to be also.
All I'm saying is (if leak is real) I'm surprised that they wouldn't show the whole building as an icon rather than a zoom in on one room which isn't even a constant.

Also that screenshot indicates there could be at least one more floor below. Look to the left, another stair case going down.
 
All I'm saying is (if leak is real) I'm surprised that they wouldn't show the whole building as an icon rather than a zoom in on one room which isn't even a constant.

Also that screenshot indicates there could be at least one more floor below. Look to the left, another stair case going down.

Yeah, this makes sense.

Why zoom in on a single room which changes every single match? It doesn't exactly represent the stage..
 
All I'm saying is (if leak is real) I'm surprised that they wouldn't show the whole building as an icon rather than a zoom in on one room which isn't even a constant.

Also that screenshot indicates there could be at least one more floor below. Look to the left, another stair case going down.

Tomodachi life is more known for its rooms than for the exterior of the building, though.

Luigi's mansion was more known for the mansion itself, rather than individual rooms.

Yeah, this makes sense.

Why zoom in on a single room which changes every single match? It doesn't exactly represent the stage..

Sure it does. That's why the first picture (and many others) that we got was nothing but a zoomed in view of one room.
 
All I'm saying is (if leak is real) I'm surprised that they wouldn't show the whole building as an icon rather than a zoom in on one room which isn't even a constant.

Also that screenshot indicates there could be at least one more floor below. Look to the left, another stair case going down.

On a 3DS or 2DS the icon would be very tiny, it would be hard to make out details in the icon and it would probably look bad.
 
Yeah, this makes sense.

Why zoom in on a single room which changes every single match? It doesn't exactly represent the stage..
Showing a specific combination of six rooms for a stage that changes every single match also doesn't represent the stage very well
 
BGBW wants it to be fake so bad.
Only reason I'd really want it to be fake is to win a bet.

But then again the one who I think took it up (because they never confirmed it), HenryGale, only has 12 posts so my labour of love will hardly be seen in this thread which is basically a waste. :(

But hey, I'm willing to switch victims if you're so passionate about arguing that it is real.
 
Showing a specific combination of six rooms for a stage that changes every single match also doesn't represent the stage very well
You wouldn't show the rooms, you'd show the exterior (i.e when no one is over them)

Especially since Luigi's mansion is kind of an iconic building. Tomodachi place? Not so much.
It's not about representing the game, it's about representing the stage. The stage is the apartment building. Also guess how they show that in the game? As the complete building.
 
I don't think it's fake, but this reasoning is reaching so bad!

Please explain? I don't think it's reaching that much at all.

Granted, it's all up to sakurai's whims anyway, so he could have done either thing, but tomodachi life's apartment building isn't nearly as iconic as luigi's mansion.
 
I don't think it's fake, but this reasoning is reaching so bad!

A lot of people's reasoning is reaching really bad.

This is exactly what Sakurai wanted, for us to torture ourselves over an entire weekend without a POTD to help give weight to either side of this discussion. We shall toil in the dirt, picking and prodding at nothing while he sits in his ivory tower, basking in the knowledge of the full roster.
 
Please explain? I don't think it's reaching that much at all.

Granted, it's all up to sakurai's whims anyway, so he could have done either thing, but tomodachi life's apartment building isn't nearly as iconic as luigi's mansion.
What do you spend most of your time in Luigi's Mansion exploring? Rooms.

What do you spend most of your time in Tomodachi Life exploring. The whole island.

Your reasoning is opposite to the games themselves.


And I repeat, I'm just surprised by what I assumed would be the icon layout wasn't the case.
 
Only reason I'd really want it to be fake is to win a bet.

But then again the one who I think took it up (because they never confirmed it), HenryGale, only has 12 posts so my labour of love will hardly be seen in this thread which is basically a waste. :(

But hey, I'm willing to switch victims if you're so passionate about arguing that it is real.

I had volunteered for that.

I may not be able to honor it immediately because I'm going to be in the middle of a move and internet access will be limited for me. If/when I lose PM me the avatar and when I get my bearings and steady internet access I'll put it on.
 
Missing the top and bottom. Luigi's Mansion's icon was more zoomed out.

But Brawl also had a stage preview image on the left of the SSS (Stage Select Screen) which showed the insides of Luigi's Mansion when you highlight it while here, in Smash 4 3DS, as far as we can tell there isn't one like that. So it's possible because there's no preview image they've chosen to highlight a specific room as the stage select icon because that better represents the stage than a full shot of the building when it is "closed". Edit: Oh someone apparently said the stage preview image appears on the bottom screen, nevermind, I forgot about that. Still, the full apartment building could be shown using that rather than the stage icon.

Either way, I don't think the menu designers follow any guidelines or rules on what a stage icon should cover -- as long as it looks good aesthetically they roll with it. Even if a stage is similar in concept to another one.
 
It's not about representing the game, it's about representing the stage. The stage is the apartment building. Also guess how they show that in the game? As the complete building.

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Looks like a blob of brown pixels if you do it that way.

Distant Planet used the Bulborb as its icon, 75m zoomed in on pixel Donkey Kong, sometimes the icons are just funny.
 
You wouldn't show the rooms, you'd show the exterior (i.e when no one is over them)


It's not about representing the game, it's about representing the stage. The stage is the apartment building. Also guess how they show that in the game? As the complete building.
The stage is a series of randomized rooms, so in the game, they show it as a close up on one of the rooms. We didn't even see the building for months after the stage was revealed.
 
I had volunteered for that.

I may not be able to honor it immediately because I'm going to be in the middle of a move and internet access will be limited for me. If/when I lose PM me the avatar and when I get my bearings and steady internet access I'll put the avatar on.
OK, I just saw this post and assumed by the title you wanted out.
 
balloon fight should be a zoom in on the fish like mario bros with the shellcreeper and 75m with DK

i don't mean that as in "it's obviously fake because this isn't the case" i just think that one looks bad
 
What do you spend most of your time in Luigi's Mansion exploring? Rooms.

What do you spend most of your time in Tomodachi Life exploring. The whole island.

Your reasoning is opposite to the games themselves.


And I repeat, I'm just surprised by what I assumed would be the icon layout wasn't the case.

Eh. Still up to the whims of sakurai, I guess. I'm just basing it on what I think of when I think of each game. When I think of tomodachi life, I think of the time i'm sitting in the apartment rooms talking to the miis. The only reason I think of the mansion as a whole for luigi's mansion is because the word mansion is in the title and the mansion, as a whole, is the main focus of the stage.

If it were up to me designing the icons for the SSS, i'd do exactly what sakurai did for brawl and exactly what the leak is doing for tomodachi life.
 
Since we're here, what is everyone's favourite newcomer video and why?

Mine's either Little Mac's, because the cartoon style and hype music, or Robin/Lucina's because the FE art and the awesome music.
Lucina and Robin's for obvious reasons :3c
Next would be a tie between Little Mac's because of the stylized art and Palutena's because of the booty SHAFT.
 
But Brawl also had a stage preview image on the left of the SSS (Stage Select Screen) which showed the insides of Luigi's Mansion when you highlight it while here, in Smash 4 3DS, as far as we can tell there isn't one like that.
They use the bottom screen to show a larger preview of the stage. This can be seen here.

And I guess I have to repeat myself again:
I'm just surprised by what I assumed would be the icon layout wasn't the case.

I'm not saying the icon was fake based on the layout, just something I guessed didn't turn out to be the case.
 
Another thing that kind of blows in the SSS, is the fact that Melee/Brawl stages are crammed together with original stages, which was never the case in any previous Smash.
 
Another thing that kind of blows in the SSS, is the fact that Melee/Brawl stages are crammed together with original stages, which was never the case in any previous Smash.
Yeah, I hate that. I guess it's supposed to hide the fact that there are so many returning stages? It could also be that, unlike Melee and Brawl, the returning stages are "real" stages, and appear in Classic Mode, as we've seen with Jungle Japes.
 
Another thing that kind of blows in the SSS, is the fact that Melee/Brawl stages are crammed together with original stages, which was never the case in any previous Smash.

This is my personal sticking point, especially because the Wii U version seems to be set up for divisions like Brawl had. If they end up doing this, I can only assume it's because they realized their new stage selection was so bad they had to buff it up by tossing more in there?

It's always a possibility and I kind of feared it might be the case when they started talking about how stages have multiple and random layouts, but I'm still just going to bank on "if real this isn't the final CSS because that'd be terrible."

Also, no Smashville? Seriously?
 
But as long as you can distinguish the particular icon so you can recognize it quickly, and get a better view of the stage on the bottom screen, that's not really an issue, is it?

Stage preview images most of the time are a completely different picture of the stage than the icon used.

Luigi's Mansion's stage preview image is the mansion at an angle showing all the rooms on the inside while the stage select icon is the zoomed out shot of the outside of the mansion. Of course, they wouldn't have to stick to what they did in Brawl -- just pointing out that they have done it that way in the past.

They could easily do the opposite here with the Tomodachi Life stage. Make the stage icon the specific room we see right now and then when you highlight it it shows the full apartment building instead (maybe even with some rooms open? Who knows).

That's why I don't think the way the icon is, is a strike against the leak. Especially when other stage icons don't even show the full stages either (like as mentioned before with Distant Planet and 75m or even a stage like Brinstar Depths where Kraid takes up the entire stage icon lol).
 
Another thing that kind of blows in the SSS, is the fact that Melee/Brawl stages are crammed together with original stages, which was never the case in any previous Smash.

Yeah, that's the one thing I don't like about the leak, but maybe 'leak sakurai' is saying that 'older stages aren't inferior to newer stages, so they should be on the same screen!' This is another thing that I think a faker wouldn't have done. A faker who wanted to be taken as legitimate would have divided them because that's how it was in melee/brawl.

:p

That said, yeah, don't like it! Super weird.
 
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