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Again, this is the case. I don't remember the exact source, but I remember Mike and Bryan claiming that when they left their original office in '08, they lost their original videos.

Giancarlo Volpe (director of many A:TLA episodes) said that the DVD releases even had fucked up timing with certain scenes. Like... a scene where a shot was held on something for a little bit longer than in DVD. It makes certain scenes end a bit quicker than intended and don't give the same sort of "oomph". Apparently they just don't have them anymore.

It really is a shame. :(

Man that really sucks. I'm guessing Nick themselves don't have a proper archival system in place either then? Because from what I understand those book 1 ghosting issues at least weren't present at the original airing. That gotta be lying around somewhere...

They still do reruns no? Or are those based on the DVDs these days? :/
 
so wasnt korra severed from her avatar state after season 2? the poison was the only reason she could go back into the avatar state correct?

No she used the Avatar State in episode one with the vines. The poison forced her into the that state because I guess the hallucinations made her body think she was in danger or something.
 
so wasnt korra severed from her avatar state after season 2? the poison was the only reason she could go back into the avatar state correct?

Nope. She apparently can still use the Avatar State, but its much weaker since she doesn't have her previous lives.

No she used the Avatar State in episode one with the vines. The poison forced her into the that state because I guess the hallucinations made her body think she was in danger or something.

It was her dying that made her go into the Avatar state. The hallucinations were side effects from the mercury.
 
Yeah somebody posted how there are essentially two avatar states, which made a lot of sense. The weaker version that just makes your bending abilities/coordination much stronger and faster, and the one that's just OP as all hell where all your past lives are combined. Aang used the second version quite a bit, all those times that another Avatar took his form and did actions with his body, and of course the battle against Ozai.
 
The avatar state didn't look much weaker to me tbh. I'm assuming the power boost is mostly a Raava thing and that Korra just doesn't have the combined knowledge of her past lives now. I guess that's sort of weaker.

Or did you guys notice a significant difference? It didn't look like a 'tapping into the avatar state for a temporary boost' thing to me. I dunno, I was always under the impression that was for short bursts.
 
Nope. She apparently can still use the Avatar State, but its much weaker since she doesn't have her previous lives.

Hmmm, I believe they've shown it's not weaker the power comes from Raava, what she doesn't have though is the experiences of the past lives or obviously the ability to talk with them anymore though. So maybe it's weaker in the sense that she probably can't like lavabend since she doesn't know how and she doesn't have any passed lives that do anymore either, but I think the power itself isn't weaker.

It was her dying that made her go into the Avatar state. The hallucinations were side effects from the mercury.

Yeah.

Yeah somebody posted how there are essentially two avatar states, which made a lot of sense. The weaker version that just makes your bending abilities/coordination much stronger and faster, and the one that's just OP as all hell where all your past lives are combined. Aang used the second version quite a bit, all those times that another Avatar took his form and did actions with his body, and of course the battle against Ozai.

Obviously unless Mike and Bryan tell us we can't really say but I'd say Korra just used the OP one against the RL when she broke out of the chains and fought Zaheer. She's even doing all that she did while poisoned.
 
Hmmm, I believe they've shown it's not weaker the power comes from Raava, what she doesn't have though is the experiences of the past lives or obviously the ability to talk with them anymore though. So maybe it's weaker in the sense that she probably can't like lavabend since she doesn't know how and she doesn't have any passed lives that do anymore either, but I think the power itself isn't weaker.

Oops, yeah, I guess that what I was trying to say. Basically what you just said is my view of the AS.

Makes me wonder that if the Avatar existed in our world, would the Avatar be able to speak every language in the world?
 
Hey guys, think Ghazan could have earthbent the oceanfloor from his prison and broken free? I mean, he had to have at least tried in the 13 years he was there, right?
 
Oops, yeah, I guess that what I was trying to say. Basically what you just said is my view of the AS.

Makes me wonder that if the Avatar existed in our world, would the Avatar be able to speak every language in the world?

That's an interesting question if they were accessing each of the previous ones with that language in the avatar state.

It's been a while since I've re-watched the first show but didn't Aang do some stuff that he normally couldn't that one time thanks to Roku back in the first series when they were cornered behind the locked door in that temple and Zuko was waiting for him to come out?
 
They still do reruns no? Or are those based on the DVDs these days? :/

I'm not sure. I haven't watched the reruns in years so I don't know the quality.

Hey guys, think Ghazan could have earthbent the oceanfloor from his prison and broken free? I mean, he had to have at least tried in the 13 years he was there, right?

I think he needs to be touching the earth to lavabend it.
 
Hey guys, think Ghazan could have earthbent the oceanfloor from his prison and broken free? I mean, he had to have at least tried in the 13 years he was there, right?

the reason they put earth benders in metal (back when they couldn't metal bend) and wood is because they need to be in close proximity of actual earth to be able to bend.
 
Hey guys, think Ghazan could have earthbent the oceanfloor from his prison and broken free? I mean, he had to have at least tried in the 13 years he was there, right?

Water is most likely too deep to actually reach the earth so far down. Now Ming-Hua is the interesting one considering she's a pretty damned powerful waterbender, you kinda wonder how they gave her water to drink.
 
Water is most likely too deep to actually reach the earth so far down. Now Ming-Hua is the interesting one considering she's a pretty damned powerful waterbender, you kinda wonder how they gave her water to drink.

Oh hey dang. Maybe tiny bits at a time...?
 
you can still do a blu ray release, they just wouldn't be able to make it more then a simple upscaling (aka likely what your blu ray player will do with a dvd anyways) without spending a lot of money... (odds are they would do a simple crop and upscale though and anger a lot of fans :P)

Personally I would be fine if a blu ray release had just the dvd quality of videos if the following happened.

1. The first few eps were properly encoded this time and don't look like crap.
2. Avatar Extras is included in its entirety.

and that is it... I would rebuy avatar in dvd quality again for those two things alone.

Sounds good to me, I'd also be willing to re-buy for slightly better video and especially if they were to include Avatar Extras with all the extra space, those would be great to have..
 
Unless someone can bring back the dead in Book 4, that will not be happening. Same with Ghazan.

Yep. The director and assistant director confirmed they both died.

Zaheer on the other hand is very much alive. If the Red Lotus still plays a part in Book 4, I would expect a jail break of some kind.
 
Sounds good to me, I'd also be willing to re-buy for slightly better video and especially if they were to include Avatar Extras with all the extra space, those would be great to have..

I mostly want avatar extras in general...
only place I can find it is on itunes (and I would rather not have something I want then ever install itunes on my PC so yeah)
 
Yep. The director and assistant director confirmed they both died.

Zaheer on the other hand is very much alive. If the Red Lotus still plays a part in Book 4, I would expect a jail break of some kind.

Break him out of jail.

Then kill his ass.

"YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY"

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Hey guys, think Ghazan could have earthbent the oceanfloor from his prison and broken free? I mean, he had to have at least tried in the 13 years he was there, right?

Well he was trapped in a wooden platform in the middle of the ocean, and we don't know how deep the ocean floor is, so even if he tried, maybe his range was to little.

Unless someone can bring back the dead in Book 4, that will not be happening. Same with Ghazan.

life bending ...
 
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Well he was trapped in a wooden platform in the middle of the ocean, and we don't know how deep the ocean floor is, so even if he tried, maybe his range was to little.

Hey guys, think Ghazan could have earthbent the oceanfloor from his prison and broken free? I mean, he had to have at least tried in the 13 years he was there, right?

Mike and Bryan have established basic rules and limitations to bending. The gist of the limit to earthbending is that the bender should be able to send a physical wave to the earth in question. So an earthbender couldn't topple a mountain on the other side of the world, for example.
 
Mike and Bryan have established basic rules and limitations to bending. The gist of the limit to earthbending is that the bender should be able to send a physical wave to the earth in question. So an earthbender couldn't topple a mountain on the other side of the world, for example.

they just need to practice more megaton punch o.O
 
Mike and Bryan have established basic rules and limitations to bending. The gist of the limit to earthbending is that the bender should be able to send a physical wave to the earth in question. So an earthbender couldn't topple a mountain on the other side of the world, for example.

Didn't know that, makes sense.
 
That's gonna suck for next avatar, since the only advice he'll get is to use brute force for everything.

"Have you tried hitting it? No, like... really hard."

Could actually be helpful, but only for an avatar that really REALLY likes to overthink things
 
That's gonna suck for next avatar, since the only advice he'll get is to use brute force for everything.

If this were season 2 Korra I'd agree, but season 3 korra is different and that's unfair on how she has changed.

Heck Aang was a childlike pacifist throughout a huge part of the show if we go with over simplifications, his adult version and the one who ultimately gave advice to Korra is this serious guy who gets shit done by the books, but also can take away your bending if you piss him off.
 
Part of me hopes Book 4 will take place years after Book 3, with Jinora grown up and Korra been given a long, long time to recover.

This would actually be incredibly interesting. If Korra and her gang were around the same age as Aang and his crew in the flashbacks in Season 1. This would give them a wide space to change the characters and have them get some off screen growth (Korra not as hot headed ect.). Sadly, there's no chance this would happen.

On a different note, I found the ending to be good but not great. Certainly better than the catastrophe that was S2 finale. Zaheer's plan was actually pretty smart, and the fights between his group and everyone else was good, though Mako and Bolin were fighting at a level that they shouldn't have been imo. Mako taking out the water bender with lightning made sense because it was not a win based on bending skill but rather smarts and using a move that is super effective against your opponent.

Bolin is still terrible, and is IMO a complete waste of time as he adds literally nothing to the show except waste screentime with terrible "humor". His lava bending isn't worth the little he does, and I think he actually makes the show weaker because the writers feel obligated to keep him along because of reasons, thus he is forced to stick around to be terrible comic relief. I even actually liked Bolin's character in S1 when he actually had some relevance to the plot.

My biggest problem with Korra and her group this entire series is that they don't do anything, things happen to them. At almost all points of ATLA, Aang and his group are doing stuff to achieve a goal. They are always a step ahead of a majority of the bad guys (minus Azula) and they almost always take the initiative (saving Ba Sing Se, trying to take out the Fire Lord during the eclipse). While Korra and her group are constantly outsmarted and outmaneuvered by everyone. There is very little evidence that Korra's group of competent at all since they almost never have an advantage on their opponents. I think the biggest factor in this is the fact that in ATLA the gang had time to have more minor villains whom they can outsmart/beat up, which in turn makes villans like Azula more badass since she is always a step ahead of a clearly competent group of powerful benders (with a decent strategist). On the other hand we have Korra's group who almost always gets their asses handed to them in fights, and the bad guys run circles around them and make them look like idiots for falling for the most obvious traps. At this point, seeing a bad guy outsmart Korra is the norm, and it makes it harder for me to even care about the plot as its pretty much Korras group getting pulled around at the villains leisure until they somehow figure out how to beat them during the finale.

I also felt that the completely messed up Zuko's cameo this season. He literally did nothing, and got completely jacked up by the evil Earth Bender guy. He even leaves at the most inopportune time to go "protect the Firelord" even though they know exactly where Zaheer and his gang are, and the only people who can stop him are going to meet him. This could be forgiven if Zuko at least appeared to be badass as he was made to look like a chump by 1 of the 4 members of Zaheers group, he would literally stand no chance if all 4 decided to show up and off the Firelord. The least they could have done is have him show up to the first fight with Zaheers group and scare them off cuz "oh shit its Zuko" or at least, you know, tip the balance in the good guys side for once, but nope he got wrecked by a guy Bolin and Mako can beat handily apparently.

The way that Zuko's return was handled makes me very iffy about them bringing back Toph, cause if they give her the same treatment as Zuko they might ruin Toph (my fav character) for me.

So at the end of this season, Tenzin's W/L ratio still sits at 0% and the good guy's in general sit at around 25% total (including random trash mobs like that bike gang in Ba Sing Se), and is even lower when it comes to fighting the main villains. Considering when Aangs group lost a fight it would be a considerable event, this goes back to my earlier point that they really need to make the good guys in Korra more effective or else we're just going to be watching the characters get drug around and beat up by the bad guys til they pull a win out of their ass in the finale.
 
zuko's in his late 80s. cut the guy some slack.
meh, with advancements in water and metal bending the 80s are the new 40s, with all that extra exp from battles over the years he should be a super high level well beyond korra....

hmmmm I feel as if my joke missed the mark... but I am going to post it anyways >.>:
 
every past avatar has fucked up in some major way anyhow. aang introduced the concept of energybending to the world at large, roku didn't stop ron perlman, kuruk was consumed by earthly connections leading to his demise at the hand of koh, and kyoshi created the god damned dai li. good job, kyoshi.

yangchen had all her shit together though. good for her.
 
the ep where you found out how Lin got her scar

but the resolution to that ep was BS

she just kind of sleeps it off?

but that's the thing though, Lin's sister's change to be deserving of Lin's forgiveness gets no look in.

it was basically, I have changed now, I have this great life and run this city

off the back of getting you in trouble and scarring you for life.

Now get over it, Lin

complete and utter BS treatment of Lin by the writers there

That infuriated me too.

Btw, was Jinora meant to look exactly like Aang at the end or is it just the artstyle?

Yep, that was a lovely touch.

zuko's in his late 80s. cut the guy some slack.

They could have made him seem a bit more badass like Roku.
 
Unless someone can bring back the dead in Book 4, that will not be happening. Same with Ghazan.

book 4: necromancybending

just got to watch the last two episodes, fucking amazing. Probably the best bending scenes of the whole show. I'm really curious where they're going from here

the death of combustion woman was quite brutal. Glad that Mako discovered he can still lightning-bend. Jinora looks freaky without the hair
 
book 4: necromancybending

just got to watch the last two episodes, fucking amazing. Probably the best bending scenes of the whole show. I'm really curious where they're going from here

the death of combustion woman was quite brutal. Glad that Mako discovered he can still lightning-bend. Jinora looks freaky without the hair

They left themselves quite a few possible paths for season 4 with the hints that Red Lotus (kuvira?) is still around and how Ba Sing Se is in tatters at the moment after the death of the Earthqueen. Could possibly see them do a story line with Jinora and a bunch of airbenders trying to set things right in Ba Sing Se whilst Korra is recovering from the events of Book 3.
Plus I'm pretty sure Republic City still has its little issue with the spirit vines to contend with.

Unless someone can bring back the dead in Book 4, that will not be happening. Same with Ghazan.

Yeah I know he's dead and buried but A man can dream though. A man can dream...

Rewatching the original Avatar it was such a shock to hear Luke Skywalker voice Ozai.

For me its when I realized George Takei is in an episode. Completely forgot about his little role.
 
Btw, was Jinora meant to look exactly like Aang at the end or is it just the artstyle?

Yes. Since book 1 there were comparisons between Aang and Jinora with hair photoshoped out and they looked the same. That's why I wasn't surprised to see her looking like him with tattoos. But still, it was a beautiful moment :)
 
That's gonna suck for next avatar, since the only advice he'll get is to use brute force for everything.

"Have you tried hitting it? No, like... really hard."

Could actually be helpful, but only for an avatar that really REALLY likes to overthink things

Its gonna suck for the next avatar,

He'll be like

'Where is everybody?' lol

Korra shouldn't even be able to enter the Avatar state, as I recall:

"The Avatar state is a defense mechanism, designed to empower you with the skills and knowledge of all the past Avatars.
The glow is the combination of all your past lives, focusing their energy through your body.
In the Avatar state you are at your most powerful, but you are also at your most vulnerable"

But then writers thought let' invent Raava and Vaatu etc etc
 
But then writers thought let' invent Raava and Vaatu etc etc

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that they came up with the Raava/Vaatu backstory while they were still working on TLA

They left themselves quite a few possible paths for season 4 with the hints that Red Lotus (kuvira?) is still around and how Ba Sing Se is in tatters at the moment after the death of the Earthqueen. Could possibly see them do a story line with Jinora and a bunch of airbenders trying to set things right in Ba Sing Se whilst Korra is recovering from the events of Book 3.
Plus I'm pretty sure Republic City still has its little issue with the spirit vines to contend with.

yeah, Jinora is likely going to be an important character in the next season while Korra is still recovering

personally, I'm just hoping for a battle royal between the Red Lotus, Team Avatar, and lets throw in the Equalists too
 
Good enough Finale, just a few gripes.

1. No Toph. They've mentioned her a few times this season and I thought shed make an appearance in the Finale in some way.

2. Not using bending at obvious times. For example, when Bolin and gang are running down a tunnel escaping from Lava... Bolin is a Pro earth bender, not some novice. Yet he still only bends thin bits of tunnel to slow the Lavas path (which then inevitably collapses). Why not just collapse the whole tunnel behind you? I know it was all leading to him discovering his Lava bending but still .. frustrating.

3. I know Korra's severed her link to the past avatars, but she just seems so weak. How can an Avatar with years of training, mastered 4 elements not even go toe to toe with a guy has been air bending for a few weeks ..

I hope next season we see a tougher (both emotionally and physically) Korra and more use of the avatar state (one of my favourite things about the Avatar)
 
I'm kinda glad there was no Toph ex machina. Save that for next season.

Also, Korra was fucking dying from poison. I can forgive her for not being at 100%.
 
Those poor Equalists aren't going to stand much of a chance stuck in the middle between Red Lotus and Team Avatar.

well, they already have giants robots. The next logical step would be to equip them with guns!

3. I know Korra's severed her link to the past avatars, but she just seems so weak. How can an Avatar with years of training, mastered 4 elements not even go toe to toe with a guy has been air bending for a few weeks ..

uh, that was actually the most impressive bending I've seen on either show. They made it pretty clear that she lost because she was poisoned. Zaheer did nothing but dodge her attacks until the she couldn't fight back anymore
 
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