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I don't want that for Korra, though I wouldn't mind a comic/special where they show us the gaang all grown up and what their lives were like (outside of Aang dealing with bloodbender and Toph being chief of police which we've already seen). One that goes all the way up until Aang's death all Up! style, which would tie it with Korra.
 
Loofy said:
Zuko is pretty much an interchangeable character, a cameo. Comes on a dragon then leaves. If the story expanded on say.. his past of him and tonraq first fighting the red lotus I think it would have been more interesting.
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Zuko was just there to set up what I assume will be a major part of Book 4. It's just planting the seeds.
 
someone just tried kicking me in tf2 because i changed my name to zaheer and asked if they had heard about our lord and savior, guru laghima, an airbender.
 
AniHawk said:
someone just tried kicking me in tf2 because i changed my name to zaheer and asked if they had heard about our lord and savior, guru laghima, an airbender.
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Haha, someone needs to make an e-sports team, LoL or DotA with the five named members of the Red Lotus (including Aiwai) and have Zaheer constantly bicker about Guru Lahima ingame and in interviews.
 
Loofy said:
Man I guess the writers can be commended for not relying too much on TLA's storyline, but how much better do you think the show would be if it was just all about tying loose ends with the original cast?
Book 2 - 'What happened to Aang'
Book 3 - 'What happened to Sokka'
Book 4 - 'What happened to Toph'
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I hope you don't have a day job as a TV show writer.
 
Frog-fu said:
I don't believe they would kill Korra when she was because I don't believe they're actually evil. Zaheer didn't have any reason to lie about his former objectives when it was clear why he was gunning for her at the time.
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Zaheer believes he is heroic, but he's clearly evil, and a sociopath. He holds children hostage (some of the air benders are children). He attempts to murder Korra in as torturous a way as possible, and, what really shows him to be a sociopath is his reaction to P'li's death. Yes, he screams initially, but once he processes it, he becomes even more powerful by gaining the ability to fly. He has nothing to tether him to the world any longer. There's no mourning. That's beyond being cold, that's deranged.

The Red Lotus's goal was to end the Avatar cycle, destroy world governments, and create anarchy. Based on his behavior and motivations, he would have killed Korra as a child, no doubt.
 
I thought they said they were going to "teach" her bending, which basically amounted to the Red Lotus brainwashing her as a child, as Korra guessed in The Stakeout?

Maybe if she resisted she would have been killed, but I don't think his plan back then was to kill her straight away.
 
Well, Zaheer wasn't torturing Korra because he enjoyed it. It was necessary for the plan to work. He wasn't shown enjoying torture or kidnapping at all. What makes him cruel and antagonistic is the indifference that he has while doing his plan.
 
ObbyDent said:
I thought they said they were going to "teach" her bending, which basically amounted to the Red Lotus brainwashing her as a child, as Korra guessed in The Stakeout?

Maybe if she resisted she would have been killed, but I don't think his plan back then was to kill her straight away.
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Yeah that's what my understanding of their initial plan was. Re-open the spirit portals using Korra then basically brainwash her over to her side so they could use her as a tool/weapon for Red Lotus.
 
5 Things

  • Bolin's become really hit or miss, more often missing for me as his jokes feel really out of place during certain scenes and they're not funny. I still like Bolin I just wish they wouldn't him write up like this.
  • Kuvira looks cool and all, but when they had her on screen for those few moments which felt like days I could only think: get this bitch off screen, who the fuck are you, go away, shoo.
  • This season actually kind of made me like all the characters, even the ones I hated I now like even if just a bit. I just felt that everyone was in a different spot at the end. It's almost like there was some growth and consequences.
  • A minor complaint: Zaheer came off as a little pouty/whiny at the end which I felt did his character a slight disservice, specifically the line right before Bolin shoved a sock in it. Though I suppose it fits because he had everything taken away from him.
  • I wish villains had a potential to return, I know Amon was confirmed dead(wish he wasn't) and so it's disappointing that Zaheer is likely locked away for good.

All in all, I'm really interested in Season 4 now.
 
that whole zaheer/bolin scene was fuckin turrible

it was a near-character assassination for zaheer making him sound like a scooby doo villain just got thwarted by the mystery gang.

and bolin finally reached his limit for wisecracks for me (and i really liked him too)

zaheer up until that scene was a g tho. and i really liked tenzin in these final episodes.
 
Discotheque said:
it was a near-character assassination for zaheer making him sound like a scooby doo villain just got thwarted by the mystery gang.
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I felt the same way. It ruined gravitas of all their struggle and Korra's survival.

Zaheer, for a dude that's zen enough to unlock the secret of flight, seemed awfully obsessed with Korra, and was hell-bent on plunging the world into chaos. A bit of a contradiction.
 
Azula said:
I think the chemistry was nice, but it was literally for like what...3 minutes tops? It's kind of strange how that one moment was enough to kick off shipping fuel to high levels. Plus, regardless if you liked Aang x Katara or not, it was pretty much established all the way back to Book 1. I mean, they had that Hippie Episode where they kissed in the dark (or were about to kiss), and Aang has had a thing for Katara since Book 1.
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Well Katara was the only recurring female character in Book 1 so it was kind of inevitable that she would get shipped with everyone. Zuko had an obvious appeal to fans of bad boys and/or anyone who thought Aang was too young or boring. But I think what really kickstarted Zutara shipping was the scene in The Waterbending Scroll whet he captured her and took her necklace. Whatever the origin, the ship was very entrenched well before the end of Book 2.
 
Zutara was definitely more interesting than Kataang but still made zero fucking sense.

It's like Shipping Sasuke and Sakura, despite the former trying to kill her three times.
 
I can't wait until Korra becomes the spiritual advisor to the next avatar:

New avatar: oh former avatars, what should I do?

Korra: Kill the motherfucker

New avatar: bubububut

Korra: DEAL WITH IT
 
Jacob said:
Well Katara was the only recurring female character in Book 1 so it was kind of inevitable that she would get shipped with everyone. Zuko had an obvious appeal to fans of bad boys and/or anyone who thought Aang was too young or boring. But I think what really kickstarted Zutara shipping was the scene in The Waterbending Scroll whet he captured her and took her necklace. Whatever the origin, the ship was very entrenched well before the end of Book 2.
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Shows how terrible my history on shipping is! To be fair, I didn't watch the show with fans back then, so I kind of assumed it all started with the Book 2 finale. I still think overall in the narrative (in terms of the structure and the screen time), I felt it was pretty obvious that it was always going to be Aang x Katara. I definitely can see why people thought Aang was too young. Their relationship (especially as Katara got older in Book 2 and 3) kind of felt more paternal (like she was his mother/sister)...so yeah.

Thing is though, for all the gripes people had with ATLA with regards to romance, I still say that was better than the crap we got in Korra. Because at least the romance knew to take a back seat and not get in the way of things. :P
 
grandjedi6 said:
I can't wait until Korra becomes the spiritual advisor to the next avatar:

New avatar: oh former avatars, what should I do?

Korra: Kill the motherfucker

New avatar: bubububut

Korra: DEAL WITH IT
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I don't really understand the "Korra is worst avatar" people. We know very little about the other avatars outside of Aang, Roku, and Wan. There could have been an avatar who was flat-out evil.
 
zeemumu said:
I don't really understand the "Korra is worst avatar" people. We know very little about the other avatars outside of Aang, Roku, and Wan. There could have been an avatar who was flat-out evil.
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She can't be worse than Avatar Kuruk. That dude legitimately did nothing as Avatar. He just spent all his time being leisurely, and then ended up dying because he let his Fiance get her face taken by Koh. Seriously, that had to be the shittiest Avatar cycle ever.

Realistically, I doubt most Avatar's had to deal with as many hurdles as Korra. I would think the average Avatar is more about keeping balance in the world (rather than taking on direct threats against the Avatar cycle/bending itself). So I imagine there is going to be some Avatar's that don't actually have major events like Amon, Unalaq (Harmonic Convergence), Zaheer. I've always thought of certain Avatar's as being ambassadors for the world (being a unifying figure for all people). I don't think every Avatar has had to face a major thread/conflict in the world.

Obviously some have, but Korra and Aang had to face insane conflict (and for the obvious reason that the show is about them, and thus needs conflict). But in terms of them in the overall timeline/mythology, I would think they've had more problems to deal with then the average Avatar.
 
Chariot said:
The Legend of Kuruk - Book 1: Food
The Legend of Kuruk - Book 2: Sleep
The Legend of Kuruk - Book 3: Shit
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Pretty much. Dude spent all his time surfing and being a bro. I wonder how his fiance got her face taken from her though. That always interested me plot wise. Either way, he sure was a shit Avatar.
 
Azula said:
Pretty much. Dude spent all his time surfing and being a bro. I wonder how his fiance got her face taken from her though. That always interested me plot wise. Either way, he sure was a shit Avatar.
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Reading his wiki page its even worse he actually went looking around in the physical and spiritual world trying to find opponents to fight because he was bored and wanted some entertainment.
"Kuruk airbent lotus tornadoes for young Air Nomad nuns, would challenge random Fire Nation citizens to an Agni Kai, and engaged in earth-lifting contests with earthbenders."

Yep definitely a big contender for worst avatar.
 
Robert J. Sullivan said:
i'm binge watching this season and the more i watch the more i'm baffled
why the fuck did they make bolin so shit

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why
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I hate to say it, but yeah, during this finale, they wrote up some shit for Bolin. Which sucks, because I really like him, but the only good thing to come out of his mouth was his exchange with Gahzaan during the second half.
 
Hamlet said:
Reading his wiki page its even worse he actually went looking around in the physical and spiritual world trying to find opponents to fight because he was bored and wanted some entertainment.
"Kuruk airbent lotus tornadoes for young Air Nomad nuns, would challenge random Fire Nation citizens to an Agni Kai, and engaged in earth-lifting contests with earthbenders."

Yep definitely a big contender for worst avatar.
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lol dude sounds like an asshole. LMAO

Go home Avatar you're drunk. YOU DONT tell me WHEN TO GO HOOOOOOME *bends alcohol at people and starts tossing chairs*.

Yeah this sounds like a great show!
 
Raxus said:
Would have given Aang some balls to do what was right.
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I still think people give Aang too much shit for not killing Ozai. He was I. A very young kid being asked to kill someone. II. Lived his entire life in a flawed Monk lifestyle. They take children from their parents at a young age, and raise them in the temples.

I do agree that killing Ozai was the thing to do (well, prior to him knowing energy bending existed). But I also don't fault Aang for having those doubts. Plus, I really think had energy bending NOT dropped in his lap, he would have finally been ready to kill Ozai, even if it was something he didn't want to do. I mean, when he went into that Avatar state, he was ready to go toe to toe with him. In that moment had he not had energy bending I think he would have just struck him down and killed him.

But I guess that is all what ifs. Still, I think Aang's age really is key in how a lot of his actions were defined.
 
Melkr_ said:
Korra is at least a better Avatar than Aang.
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Depends on how we are defining "better". I would say Aang was still more likable overall as a character, and had a better approach to solving problems then Korra does in most of her conflicts. In terms of technical ability, yeah Korra is stronger. But that's comparing a 3 year old Avatar to a 15 year old Avatar (I think adult Aang could probably take Korra, because he had a stronger Avatar State and could use energy bending as an attack).

Or if we are talking about just overall conflicts being resolved. While Korra tends to stumble across the finish line, she's dealt with more conflicts then Aang. I dunno. It's hard comparing the two, since we don't know the entirety of what Aang did before passing away. We know he established Republic City. But that's pretty much all we know.
 
zeemumu said:
The reveal that Koh is just another spirit's bratty kid was kinda weak but made total sense.
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Except that the only reason Aang sought out Koh in the show is that Koh was one of the oldest spirits around. Sure, that doesn't contradict the idea that he had an even more powerful spirit mother, but the reveal came out of nowhere and raised more questions than it answered.

Azula said:
Shows how terrible my history on shipping is! To be fair, I didn't watch the show with fans back then, so I kind of assumed it all started with the Book 2 finale. I still think overall in the narrative (in terms of the structure and the screen time), I felt it was pretty obvious that it was always going to be Aang x Katara. I definitely can see why people thought Aang was too young. Their relationship (especially as Katara got older in Book 2 and 3) kind of felt more paternal (like she was his mother/sister)...so yeah.

Thing is though, for all the gripes people had with ATLA with regards to romance, I still say that was better than the crap we got in Korra. Because at least the romance knew to take a back seat and not get in the way of things. :P
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I agree, Aang and Katara's relationship was evident from the beginning and was consistently developed throughout the show. I didn't find it particularly interesting, mainly because the male and female leads ending up together felt so predictable, but I don't think it was creepy like some have said. The two characters were still very close in age, and Aang matured a lot. But the creators threw in a bunch of teases towards the end of the show, after they became aware of the shipping wars. I think you're right that they didn't really handle the transition from quasi-parental to fully romantic relationship as well as they could, which was made even more odd by the focus they'd given Katara's parental nature in The Runaway.

But it is nice that these can remain peripheral complaints since the romance was mostly left in the background. :)
 
OldAsUrSock said:
Strong independent black woman
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I think Korra is supposed to be a flawed/failed Avatar. It's apart of her story. I don't say that negatively either. And while yeah, no Avatar was perfect, I think it's more apart of Korra's identity/story. Because she was pretty much set up to fail. She's pretty much been given a raw deal, and been facing a non stop uphill battle.

I do think the writers had some missteps in how they presented this story (so I get why people dislike Korra because of this). But that aside, Korra's story is pretty fascinating. You have to feel bad for her. Almost everything she is, is a result of people making bad decisions for her (it's informed who she is, and been a cause for her own lack of experience and how she approaches things).

I know Aang was also given a raw deal with Roku not taking care of shit prior. It wasn't fair he had to take over at such a young age. But Korra also has to face a world changing that thinks it no longer needs an Avatar (and in the case of the Red Lotus, actually tried to kill the Avatar cycle, as they didn't believe the Avatar lined up with the world's evolution and changing landscape).

I said this back during Book 2, but Wan's story actually made me feel bad for Korra. Because clearly the Avatar is meant to be a person for the people and of the world. Korra was deprived that (she should have had her training around the world like past Avatar's, so she could grow and understand what it actually means to be the Avatar). So I actually have no issue with Korra being a "bad" Avatar. Well, I don't think she's actually bad (she's dealt with some major shit, and succeeded). But you guys get what I mean.
 
Toa TAK said:
I wasn't even aware people actually disliked Korra.
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Oh yes, the hate was strong in the fandom. You should see the amount of people raging out during Book 1 and 2. Especially in the Avatar communities. Although I actually find, a lot of people I talk to actually love Korra, and like her more than Aang. So I don't want to make it sound like it's the majority opinion.

I actually think it's a typical vocal minority thing. Not to dismiss people that have criticisms of the show (hell I have major criticisms of the show), but I do tend to think you are more likely to talk about something you don't like, vs something you do like. Just human nature. So that's why it seems like she gets hated on a lot vs. the reality of how most fans perceive her (which IMO is more on the positive side of things).

Even if Korra didn't have the misstep in the writing, she was always going to have to face the legacy of ATLA/ and the first Avatar. Just the way it is. But I think Korra has found it's own footing and own audience.
 
Hamlet said:
Hoo boy you should have seen the Book 2 thread. But then again pretty much every character regressed quite a bit in Book 2.
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Yeah. It was more of an issue of story presentation. If you read Book 2 interviews with the creators, they acknowledged that people hated Korra, even they hated Korra (in that moment). They wanted to highlight the character before and after, so that her redemption would be stronger. I really think this was a mistake though (and to be quite frank, lazy writing).
 
Aang is disliked by some because he didn't like fighting unless he completely had to, so many of his fight scenes are him escaping or simply dissolving/dodging bending at him. But when he got serious, oh boy. While Korra is much simpler to see take battles seriously I guess.

Also I've noticed something funny, the fact Aang was learning other bending throughout the show aside, he really loved to do air bending. I mean it makes sense, he's a master airbender and airbending can be pretty OP, not to mention many people in the show weren't used to fighting air bending, but I mention it cause Korra really likes to fire bend. Really REALLY likes to firebend. She doesn't do much waterbending, which is understandable, since water bending supposedly requires a source, unless you're a master like that witch who can take water out from just about everything.
 
Azula said:
Oh yes, the hate was strong in the fandom. You should see the amount of people raging out during Book 1 and 2. Especially in the Avatar communities. Although I actually find, a lot of people I talk to actually love Korra, and like her more than Aang. So I don't want to make it sound like it's the majority opinion.

I actually think it's a typical vocal minority thing. Not to dismiss people that have criticisms of the show (hell I have major criticisms of the show), but I do tend to think you are more likely to talk about something you don't like, vs something you do like. Just human nature. So that's why it seems like she gets hated on a lot vs. the reality of how most fans perceive her (which IMO is more on the positive side of things).

Even if Korra didn't have the misstep in the writing, she was always going to have to face the legacy of ATLA/ and the first Avatar. Just the way it is. But I think Korra has found it's own footing and own audience.
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Hopefully by book 3 that sentiment will calm down. I really like Korra as much as Aang, if not a bit more. I can sorta see why people wouldn't like her based on her personality, but I'm there with the decisions she makes and the frustration that she feels, even if the lash against others is a bit unwarranted.
Hamlet said:
Hoo boy you should have seen the Book 2 thread. But then again pretty much every character regressed quite a bit in Book 2.
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Yeah, and we got more Jinora instead. =\
 
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