Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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YOUR CHOICE FOR THE 13TH GREATEST SMASH BROS. CHARACTER WILL BE REVEALED SHORTLY!

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Man, look at this guys

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Rosalina & Luma
6. Bowser Jr.
7. Dr. Mario
8. Donkey Kong
9. Diddy Kong
10. Wario
11. Yoshi
12. Pikachu
13. Charizard
14. Jigglypuff
15. Lucario
16. Greninja
17. Link
18. Princess Zelda
19. Sheik
20. Ganondorf
21. Toon Link
22. Kirby
23. Meta Knight
24. Samus Aran
25. Zero Suit Samus
26. Marth
27. Ike
28. Robin
29. Lucina
30. Little Mac
31. Villager
32. Chorus Kids
33. Pit
34. Palutena
35. Dark Pit
36. Ness
37. Lucas
38. Olimar
39. Fox
40. Falco
41. Wolf
42. Captain Falcon
43. Shulk
44. Wii Fit Trainer
45. Mii Brawler
46. Mii Swordfighter
47. Mii Gunner
48. Ice Climber
49. Mr. Game & Watch
50. R.O.B.
51. Duck Hunt
52. Sonic
53. Mega Man
54. Pac-Man

Best roster ever guys, and imagine how awesome it will be with the inevitable DLC!

Counting each of the Mii Fighters as a newcomer? I like the cut of your jib!
 
Man, look at this guys

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Rosalina & Luma
6. Bowser Jr.
7. Dr. Mario
8. Donkey Kong
9. Diddy Kong
10. Wario
11. Yoshi
12. Pikachu
13. Charizard
14. Jigglypuff
15. Lucario
16. Greninja
17. Link
18. Princess Zelda
19. Sheik
20. Ganondorf
21. Toon Link
22. Kirby
23. Meta Knight
24. Samus Aran
25. Zero Suit Samus
26. Marth
27. Ike
28. Robin
29. Lucina
30. Little Mac
31. Villager
32. Chorus Kids
33. Pit
34. Palutena
35. Dark Pit
36. Ness
37. Lucas
38. Olimar
39. Fox
40. Falco
41. Wolf
42. Captain Falcon
43. Shulk
44. Wii Fit Trainer
45. Mii Brawler
46. Mii Swordfighter
47. Mii Gunner
48. Ice Climber
49. Mr. Game & Watch
50. R.O.B.
51. Duck Hunt
52. Sonic
53. Mega Man
54. Pac-Man

Best roster ever guys, and imagine how awesome it will be with the inevitable DLC!
This would be a pretty damn incredible roster. Add in the previously cut characters through DLC, (Marshall & Chrom too), and it's pretty much more than we could ever ask for.
 
I'd be unfortunate for DK fans to not get a newcomer if that was true. But again, I won't fall for it unless I see images to go with it. I'm not getting fooled again like with the DLC rumor.
 
I'd be unfortunate for DK fans to not get a newcomer if that was true. But again, I won't fall for it unless I see images to go with it. I'm not getting fooled again like with the DLC rumor.

I was so sure Dixie had a shot this this time, too. Remember how people found her name in Brawl's code?
 
This would be a pretty damn incredible roster. Add in the previously cut characters through DLC, (Marshall & Chrom too), and it's pretty much more than we could ever ask for.
Yeah they aren't including the Chorus Kids And Marshall.
Tbh I'm surprised I'm not the only one so excited about the possibility of a RH character.
 
I'd be unfortunate for DK fans to not get a newcomer if that was true. But again, I won't fall for it unless I see images to go with it. I'm not getting fooled again like with the DLC rumor.
Pauline will get her day in the spotlight in Smash 5. I know it. ;_;

(I've already got a kickass idea for her moveset too. Nintendo, contact me ASAP.)

Yeah they aren't including the Chorus Kids And Marshall.
Tbh I'm surprised I'm not the only one so excited about the possibility of a RH character.
It's a great series that deserves a rep. A since we've already got RH enemies in Smash Run, I think it's happening.
 
I am with my DK and Metroid brothers and sisters, reeling from the absence of any newcomers for either series. At this point (if they are indeed not getting any), we can only hope that Sakurai continues work on DLC. Imagine if by the end of its life cycle, we got:

Isabelle
Dark Samus
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
Captain Syrup
King Hippo
Tingle
Samurai Goroh
Andy
Isaac

It would be the best roster ever made.
 
Unless I'm remembering wrong, the 3DS version was originally supposed to be the only version, and the Wii U was added on later. If it didn't exist, the game might not exist at all. And the parity exists to be fair to all consumers..

Lol @a new smash bros game not existing for nintendo's newest console <.<

anyway this really sucks since thats what made ice climbers so unique in the first place.
 
Hm, can luma get hit? Like, does she have her own hidden percentage like nana has/had?

If not, that makes luma way easier to code (in my head) and handle, whereas ice climbers adds a cpu who has her own percentage, pathing, delayed inputs, and can pick up items and attack much more indepentantly of popo than luma is of rosalina (i think their attacks ae 1:1 commands?)

And i think luma has to be "placed" vs nana needing to constantly path herself back go popo while receiving player input at once.

Actually, maybe nana getting cut caused rosalina's mechanics, since nana would only work in development with luma mechanics? Idk. Im not sakurai.
 
I'd be unfortunate for DK fans to not get a newcomer if that was true. But again, I won't fall for it unless I see images to go with it. I'm not getting fooled again like with the DLC rumor.
Every franchise doesn't need another newcomer in every game. DK and Diddy do it for me.
But then I'm not a gigantic DK fan
 
no really how does he have scoops on the wiiu version or sakurai

doesn't that seem a little inconsistent

once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth

the video leaker is sakurai

it's silly and makes this leak already lacking in credibility even more suspect
 
I'm guessing Oric's VotD is Ness.

Also I feel for you hardcore Metroid and DK fans, as delighted as I am to have 3 KI reps, I do see how those series have been robbed. At least Dixie should be in this game. At least RIDLEY should be playable :/

The Sakurai bias continues to be real I guess.
 
Honestly if Ice Climbers are cut completely OR are reduced to Ice Climber then nobody can deny the 3DS version was the cause and lead to the WiiU version being gimped by it being made.

Also for fun let's speculate how the moves for a single Ice Climber would be buffed

B: Could simply turn into a double shot, would be the closest to what they original had and probably wouldn't be much hard to slightly change the animation to include. Could also make it bigger or faster so that it could be used almost as a projectile shield to block/deflect projectiles and close in

>B: Probably stays the same, probably just does damage/range like it did in Melee and Brawl like when you had both Ice Climbers

^B: Jumping and grabbing the condor was a big part of the classic Ice Climbers game, and I could totally see his new recovery being what is implied in the leak. Ice Climbers jumps up like he used to and you grab onto the bird for a bit of added vertical recovery, before it lets you go and you fall prone. Potentially it could also be a little game in itself where if you miss the condor you just fall.

VB: Have Ice Climber always shoot in both directions
 
I am with my DK and Metroid brothers and sisters, reeling from the absence of any newcomers for either series. At this point (if they are indeed not getting any), we can only hope that Sakurai continues work on DLC. Imagine if by the end of its life cycle, we got:

Isabelle
Dark Samus
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
Captain Syrup
King Hippo
Tingle
Samurai Goroh
Andy
Isaac

It would be the best roster ever made.

Except Bomberman and Simon Belmont aren't on it.
 
I am with my DK and Metroid brothers and sisters, reeling from the absence of any newcomers for either series. At this point (if they are indeed not getting any), we can only hope that Sakurai continues work on DLC. Imagine if by the end of its life cycle, we got:

Isabelle
Dark Samus
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
Captain Syrup
King Hippo
Tingle
Samurai Goroh
Andy
Isaac

It would be the best roster ever made.

If we're starting to campaign for DLC, these would be my picks.

Dixie or Cranky
Some sort of Metroid rep (Ridley I assume)
Splatoon Girl/Boy
Wonder Red
Snake
 
Never mind the content of this text leak, we can't even confirm the identity of the guy who posted it. There's literally no reason at this point to believe anything written there. So y'all can stop hyperventilating over Ice Climber. For now, it's nothing more than a (tragic) possibility.
 
Unless I'm remembering wrong, the 3DS version was originally supposed to be the only version, and the Wii U was added on later. If it didn't exist, the game might not exist at all. And the parity exists to be fair to all consumers. Not everyone has or can easily get a Wii U, but a lot of people have a 3DS, so this means everyone gets a full Smash game, and no one gets left out. That's an awfully decent move on Nintendo's part.

The game would have been made either way. The 3DS didn't save Smash, there was always going to be another installment this gen, even without Sakurai.

They aren't even equal. The Wii U version will be priced higher. How is it a decent move to anchor the pricier version just so owners of the discount title don't feel bad? Especially if the 3DS version forces changes on things that were standard in previous entries in the series.
 
I am with my DK and Metroid brothers and sisters, reeling from the absence of any newcomers for either series. At this point (if they are indeed not getting any), we can only hope that Sakurai continues work on DLC. Imagine if by the end of its life cycle, we got:

Isabelle
Dark Samus
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
Captain Syrup
King Hippo
Tingle
Samurai Goroh
Andy
Isaac

It would be the best roster ever made.
Where's Chibi-Robo?

let me dream.
 
Never mind the content of this text leak, we can't even confirm the identity of the guy who posted it. There's literally no reason at this point to believe anything written there. So y'all can stop hyperventilating over Ice Climber. For now, it's nothing more than a (tragic) possibility.
Okay, that's what I was wondering. Thanks! #TeamChorusKids

Supposedly he processed the footage & sent it to the ESRB. A more detailed source said he still has the game, but I'm looking for that link right now. ALL RUMORS THOUGH. GET YOUR SALT GRAINS AT THE DOOR.
Thanks! Is there any compelling reason to think this is the same dude?
 
The idea that the Wii U version didn't exist until appreciably later than the 3DS version is pretty overblown. Sakurai said that he had the idea of a 3DS Smash first, and it was later seeing the Wii U that made him consider it for both, but this was all back when the games were just vague ideas in his head back when he was still making Kid Icarus Uprising. They both came into actual existence at the same time. To say one came before the other isn't being fair.

That all said, I am of the strong opinion that if one version needs to be pared down to achieve parity due to the weaknesses of the other, then parity should be dropped. They should not be slaves to each other. It's like gimping the Wii U version's graphics to match the 3DS's "to be fair."

If the Ice Climbers are dropped or cut in half due to the 3DS version, it deserves all the scorn it gets for it.
 
I am with my DK and Metroid brothers and sisters, reeling from the absence of any newcomers for either series. At this point (if they are indeed not getting any), we can only hope that Sakurai continues work on DLC. Imagine if by the end of its life cycle, we got:

Isabelle
Dark Samus
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
Captain Syrup
King Hippo
Tingle
Samurai Goroh
Andy
Isaac

It would be the best roster ever made.
I love you and everyone that agreed with my Andy as newcomer mention <3
 
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